If they have a good season this year in FB, we may need to get used to hearing AAC and P6 being used in the same sentence. It will be interesting to see how their seasons unfold this year.

MWC will scream to be P7 if they have a good season as well.

(06-08-2017 07:30 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  MWC will scream to be P7 if they have a good season as well.

I don't see how. It's Boise and everyone else in the MWC. Even at that, Boise is not what it used to be.

Boise even in a bad year is better than anything the AAC has,


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(06-08-2017 07:41 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Boise even in a bad year is better than anything the AAC has,


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Haha yea right. I would take Boise on at anytime.

In anticipation of the new power status, ECU intends to bring back the old cursive Pirates helmets so we look more like our power brethren Gators & Terps.

(06-08-2017 07:44 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 07:41 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Boise even in a bad year is better than anything the AAC has,


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Haha yea right. I would take Boise on at anytime.

New Mexico and AF take care of the MW light work, so they should schedule. ECU.


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Just wait until Wyoming upsets Iowa and Oregon. then everybody will be saying that the MWC should be a P6 conference.

Wyoming at one time in the late 60s and early 70s was a national powerhouse and even played in the Sugar Bowl. Then the coach did a stupid thing ro the black players and it all fell apart. The Pokes could very well upend Oregon and Iowa, not impossible. This is their best team since then.


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Sure....losing the Access Bowl to the MAC and their pitiful performance in the bowls really says P6.

(06-08-2017 09:34 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Sure....losing the Access Bowl to the MAC and their pitiful performance in the bowls really says P6.

Anyone who goes undefeated will almost assuredly get a major bowl. It's not like Western Michigan went 9-3.
I definitely don't agree with there is a P6, mostly because I'm not sold there is a P5. Take Texas and Oklahoma away and I bet the XII lose out during the next media deal. Take away Alabama and Florida and I bet the remaining SEC still get a good deal. Take away Michigan and Ohio St and I bet the remaining B1G still get a good deal. The P talk is all about money. I would say there is a Elite 2 (B1G, SEC) + a Power 2 (PAC, ACC).

NY6 bowls are consolation prizes for 3-4 of the P5 conferences. An undefeated G5 team qualifying for a consolation prize doth not make them P5.

(06-09-2017 01:23 AM)ColKurtz Wrote:  NY6 bowls are consolation prizes for 3-4 of the P5 conferences. An undefeated G5 team qualifying for a consolation prize doth not make them P5.

Excellent point! Taking it a step further, to remain in the upper tier, a P5 conference must regularly put schools in the CFP itself and pick up multiple NY6 invites each year.

They can have a good year and strengthen their position. It'll certainly help their contract renegotiation. I still think the P5 conferences would raid them down to nothing before they allow the entire conference a P5 share in the CFP contract. P6 will never really happen.

(06-08-2017 09:15 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Wyoming at one time in the late 60s and early 70s was a national powerhouse and even played in the Sugar Bowl. Then the coach did a stupid thing ro the black players and it all fell apart. The Pokes could very well upend Oregon and Iowa, not impossible. This is their best team since then.


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That is 50 years ago... Back when SMU was great and getting death penalty, and UH with Ware at Qb was a power house. Spurrier and Bowden had not even taken over the Fla schools yet and created the monsters that they are.
For those of us over the age of 60, those are feel good memories, for everyone else it is ancient history.

With their poor record vs P5's, and the awful overall bowl record to go along with the growing revenue chasm, the AAC is no more big league than the Ivy League.

(06-09-2017 07:55 AM)orangefan Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 01:23 AM)ColKurtz Wrote:  NY6 bowls are consolation prizes for 3-4 of the P5 conferences. An undefeated G5 team qualifying for a consolation prize doth not make them P5.

Excellent point! Taking it a step further, to remain in the upper tier, a P5 conference must regularly put schools in the CFP itself and pick up multiple NY6 invites each year.

That's mainly the reason the Big East was always on the fringe or talked about as being undeserving. During Big East 2.0, there wasn't consistently a national champ contender and there were years the BE champ wasn't deserving of an AQ bowl.

FWIW I think the system we have now accurately reflects expectations -- it doesn't consider that multiple conference winners from the American, MWC et. al. are deserving but usually one of them would be. That's its glaring weakness as I see it. If there are 2 undefeated G5 champs, one of them went undefeated the wrong year.

I predict that they will move to the P6 and then the Big 10, Big 12, SEC, PAC, and ACC will move to the Bestest 5 leaving them as the only member of the P6 which they will then rename to the Big Eastern (replacing the G with a 6 in their logo).

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Hate to break it to some folks, but just because a non P5 jumps up and bites a P5 school occasionally doesn't mean they deserve a place at the table.

You're always going to have upsets and shockers, but that has been and will always be the exception, not the norm.

That's not to say that there aren't any decent non P5 teams, but rather if they had to play an SEC or B1G schedule on a regular basis, the shine would be off Cinderella's glass slippers rather fast

(06-08-2017 07:16 PM)miko33 Wrote:  If they have a good season this year in FB, we may need to get used to hearing AAC and P6 being used in the same sentence.

Uh ..... No

Unless of course Aresco or any of the AAC talking heads are speaking, otherwise NO.....

(06-08-2017 07:16 PM)miko33 Wrote:  It will be interesting to see how their seasons unfold this year.

As it pertains to getting any closer to P status - Uh.... No it will not be interesting, because IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. The only caveat to this statement is that if the P5 raids your conference and takes one of your teams to join the P5 - otherwise - NO.


The American Athletic Conference will NEVER be considered a P conference.