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Gonzaga Possible Future Looking For A New Conference
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Possible Big East membership. Could BYU and Saint Mary's going with them? WCC would be down by three if this happens. Grand Canyon, Cal. Baptist and Azusa Baptist could be possible targets. Seattle U. and maybe a Northwest Nazarene could be part of the Northern brands to go with Portland.
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I'd imagine BYU would try to go back to the MWC and if that bridge is burned, they'd finally give in and head to the AAC. St. Mary's is not nearly as distinguished and prosperous as Gonzaga. A travel partner is not nearly as important as it used to be, especially if the Big East would be worried about being stuck with deadweight in the future, a La DePaul or Seton Hall in general. If the Big East went to 12 and split into divisions, the Zags would rarely have to travel past Lake Michigan.
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Few and the players can say this. There's probably a reason Roth isn't quoted, and maybe it's because Gonzaga's other programs fit right in with the WCC.
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The MW could be an option, but so far, we are sticking with needing football to join. However, being that Gonzaga isn't thinking of adding football may not a big issue for us. BYU may throw a stink about it but their football is what the MW wants.
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(03-20-2017 07:21 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  The MW could be an option, but so far, we are sticking with needing football to join. However, being that Gonzaga isn't thinking of adding football may not a big issue for us. BYU may throw a stink about it but their football is what the MW wants.

The MWC would be a great fit for Gonzaga, if they were interested. It's an almost identical play for the MWC as the Wichita St. to the AAC move. The MWC has great fan support for basketball, but has slipped to a one bid league the past two years and could really benefit from the juice that Gonzaga would bring.
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Gonzaga would be a great fit for the Big East if it was located in Detroit 07-coffee3
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Gonzaga is an institutional, athletic and academic fit for the Big East. Unfortunately, you can't do anything about location, otherwise they would have already been included when the conference reorganized. I would believe some type of scheduling arrangement would be more beneficial than full-conference membership, that way you are not hurting your Olympic sports with national (especially East Coast) travel.

You could potentially do a 2/2 scheduling arrangement each year with Gonzaga/St. Mary's/BYU and several Big East members per year. You could send a team West, for example Xavier, for two away games at two of Gonzaga/St. Mary's/BYU, then have those schools return East for two away games at Big East schools. You can arrange it where each BE program gets two road games and two home games over the course of five seasons, with one two-game road trip within the five year cycle and two home games during that span.
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If Gonzaga was in Detroit, Cleveland or Pittsburgh it would have been a done deal already. I don't see the Big East needing to make this move. Gonzaga needs to make the move, but I don't see the BE making this move until they have to. If they want to upgrade their conference they have 3-4 good options much closer to the foot print. (VCU, Wichita and Dayton)

As for BYU, I don't see the Catholic schools being all that excited to invite the mormons to the party.
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MWC actually does have more schools that are on the edge to make the 68 team field. Adding Saint Mary's, BYU, Gonzaga and UTEP could make the conference with more than 1 bid league. It would boast the conference's RPI up if they did. There is something that I posted about how can conferences boast their league including making tv contracts look better. Get the hot teams. I could see PAC 12 could go hybrid if they wanted to to get schools that do not have football, but are equal to them an academics.
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Big XII....

oh wait...
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(03-20-2017 07:45 AM)orangefan Wrote:  
(03-20-2017 07:21 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  The MW could be an option, but so far, we are sticking with needing football to join. However, being that Gonzaga isn't thinking of adding football may not a big issue for us. BYU may throw a stink about it but their football is what the MW wants.

The MWC would be a great fit for Gonzaga, if they were interested. It's an almost identical play for the MWC as the Wichita St. to the AAC move. The MWC has great fan support for basketball, but has slipped to a one bid league the past two years and could really benefit from the juice that Gonzaga would bring.

And it would be similar to Navy fb only-Wichita St Olympics, as Hawaii fb could use an Olympic partner. Could end up forcing BYU to the AAC, as the WCC would take a major hit.
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(03-20-2017 08:12 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Gonzaga is an institutional, athletic and academic fit for the Big East. Unfortunately, you can't do anything about location, otherwise they would have already been included when the conference reorganized. I would believe some type of scheduling arrangement would be more beneficial than full-conference membership, that way you are not hurting your Olympic sports with national (especially East Coast) travel.

You could potentially do a 2/2 scheduling arrangement each year with Gonzaga/St. Mary's/BYU and several Big East members per year. You could send a team West, for example Xavier, for two away games at two of Gonzaga/St. Mary's/BYU, then have those schools return East for two away games at Big East schools. You can arrange it where each BE program gets two road games and two home games over the course of five seasons, with one two-game road trip within the five year cycle and two home games during that span.

Only a few sports travel regularly, the rest have scheduled meets. That's why travel concerns are overblown unless your school plays in the middle of nowhere like Casper, WY or Midland, TX. Chicago is barely farther than Southern California for Gonzaga, where they have 3 conference rivals. BYU is relatively close but not right down the street.
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My guess is that if the Big East was going to overlook geography and include Gonzaga it would have happened when this iteration of the league was just getting off the ground. As it is the BE has stabilized nicely with their TV contract, a NC, and plenty of bids relative to their size. I think things are trending toward UConn eventually sitting in that 11th spot with a 20-game double round robin conference schedule and they stand pat after that. If UConn doesn't join them they probably sit tight until the perfect school this side of the Rockies surfaces.
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(03-20-2017 07:45 AM)orangefan Wrote:  
(03-20-2017 07:21 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  The MW could be an option, but so far, we are sticking with needing football to join. However, being that Gonzaga isn't thinking of adding football may not a big issue for us. BYU may throw a stink about it but their football is what the MW wants.

The MWC would be a great fit for Gonzaga, if they were interested. It's an almost identical play for the MWC as the Wichita St. to the AAC move. The MWC has great fan support for basketball, but has slipped to a one bid league the past two years and could really benefit from the juice that Gonzaga would bring.

I agree. The MWC currently has the exact same makeup as the American, with 11 full members and 1 football affiliate, and could have a more balanced basketball schedule with 1 more non-football playing member. They also each have a military academy.

The main difference is that Gonzaga is currently in a conference with a better RPI than the MWC (although if you move Gonzaga to the MWC it would leapfrog the WCC), and they are also currently in a conference full of private schools...
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Add Gonzaga, to complement Hawaii's football-only.

+ UTEP and UTSA or Rice.


14 "full" members (with the Gonzaga/Hawaii hybrid).
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Gonzaga and hawaii football only to the PAC 12? Yeah, not happening. If gonzaga left the wcc, byu would probably leave so it's gonzaga, byu and utep to the mwc
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BYU would be a nice fit too for Big East -

you could see a Big East Western Division with
Gonzaga, BYU, Creighton, Marquette, DePaul and Butler

Leaving the other division with
Villanova, Providence, Seton Hall, Georgetown, Xavier and St. John's

The travel schedule actually works BETTER for the East schools, who have to go west less often. Sucks most for Butler.

Still, that would give Gonzaga 3-4 more Top 25 teams to play a year, and shore up their RPI and experience
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What are some other WESTERN teams besides BYU that could join the Zags? I agree that St Mary's isn't quite up to snuff.
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Still, sending soccer, volleyball, softball, etc etc teams from even SLC to even Omaha, Milwaukee, and Chicago is a pain.
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I guess the big east could copy the acc 18 plan

East: providence, St. John's, seton hall, nova, gtown, umass

Central: DePaul, Marquette, St. Louis, butler, Xavier, Dayton

West: creighton, w state, Denver, afa, byu, gonzaga

Afa and byu football to the aac. 12 Catholics, 2 private, 2 public and byu +AFA
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