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(09-12-2019 02:19 PM)LUbball23 Wrote:  I’m on my phone so I can’t link articles but the new bomb shell that came out is emails of Jr calling students retards and bullying staff members. More stuff is about to come out as staff and higher ups are coming out against Jr.

Once the IRS and the SACS accreditation starts investigating **** will hit the fan. We can possibly get booted from the NCAA all together, and no that’s not a stretch. If Jr cared for Liberty he would step down but he doesn’t, it’s all about $. If students, alumni and fans care then they would pressure Jr to step down before it ever gets that far.

From Reuters:

In emails to his colleagues over the years, Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr has denigrated students and staff at the Christian university he runs, referring to one student as “emotionally imbalanced and physically retarded” and calling the school’s police chief a “half-wit.”

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As he complains of being targeted by critics, Reuters has found that Falwell himself was disparaging Liberty students, staff and parents for years in emails to Liberty administrators.

The several dozen emails reviewed by Reuters span nearly a decade-long period starting in 2008. In the emails, Falwell insults some Liberty students, calling them “social misfits.” In others, he blasts faculty members and senior Liberty staff:

-Ronald Sones, then the dean of the engineering school, was “a bag of hot air” who “couldn’t spell the word ‘profit,’” Falwell wrote in 2011. Sones is no longer the dean and could not be reached for comment.

-Richard Hinkley, the campus police chief, was “a half-wit and easy to manipulate” and shouldn’t be allowed to speak publicly. Hinkley could not be reached for comment.

-Of Kevin Keys, then Liberty’s associate athletics director, Falwell wrote in 2012: “Only get Kevin involved in something if you want it not to work.” Contacted by Reuters, Keys said: “I don’t know anything about that and I would prefer not to comment.”

Falwell was asked to comment on excerpts and summaries of the emails cited in this article. David Corry, Liberty’s general counsel, said Liberty wouldn’t respond “without knowing the details or seeing email chains in their entirety.”


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-f...SKCN1VX1QJ
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(09-12-2019 02:44 PM)unalions Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 02:19 PM)LUbball23 Wrote:  I’m on my phone so I can’t link articles but the new bomb shell that came out is emails of Jr calling students retards and bullying staff members. More stuff is about to come out as staff and higher ups are coming out against Jr.

Once the IRS and the SACS accreditation starts investigating **** will hit the fan. We can possibly get booted from the NCAA all together, and no that’s not a stretch. If Jr cared for Liberty he would step down but he doesn’t, it’s all about $. If students, alumni and fans care then they would pressure Jr to step down before it ever gets that far.

From Reuters:

In emails to his colleagues over the years, Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr has denigrated students and staff at the Christian university he runs, referring to one student as “emotionally imbalanced and physically retarded” and calling the school’s police chief a “half-wit.”

...

As he complains of being targeted by critics, Reuters has found that Falwell himself was disparaging Liberty students, staff and parents for years in emails to Liberty administrators.

The several dozen emails reviewed by Reuters span nearly a decade-long period starting in 2008. In the emails, Falwell insults some Liberty students, calling them “social misfits.” In others, he blasts faculty members and senior Liberty staff:

-Ronald Sones, then the dean of the engineering school, was “a bag of hot air” who “couldn’t spell the word ‘profit,’” Falwell wrote in 2011. Sones is no longer the dean and could not be reached for comment.

-Richard Hinkley, the campus police chief, was “a half-wit and easy to manipulate” and shouldn’t be allowed to speak publicly. Hinkley could not be reached for comment.

-Of Kevin Keys, then Liberty’s associate athletics director, Falwell wrote in 2012: “Only get Kevin involved in something if you want it not to work.” Contacted by Reuters, Keys said: “I don’t know anything about that and I would prefer not to comment.”

Falwell was asked to comment on excerpts and summaries of the emails cited in this article. David Corry, Liberty’s general counsel, said Liberty wouldn’t respond “without knowing the details or seeing email chains in their entirety.”


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-f...SKCN1VX1QJ

Being a douche isn't illegal so I don't see where Liberty would be penalized (by the government; the free market will likely penalize LU by choosing different schools to attend, support, etc.). However, if this is true and the emails are as poor in context as they are shown out of context here, then I don't know what I think should happen. Who hasn't said stuff like this through email about a coworker? I'm sure almost every other school president has said things like this or felt like this. It certainly is a bad look and I'd be okay with him stepping down over it but I'd like to see the fallout first to see how damaging it is to LU.
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(09-13-2019 05:53 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 02:44 PM)unalions Wrote:  
(09-12-2019 02:19 PM)LUbball23 Wrote:  I’m on my phone so I can’t link articles but the new bomb shell that came out is emails of Jr calling students retards and bullying staff members. More stuff is about to come out as staff and higher ups are coming out against Jr.

Once the IRS and the SACS accreditation starts investigating **** will hit the fan. We can possibly get booted from the NCAA all together, and no that’s not a stretch. If Jr cared for Liberty he would step down but he doesn’t, it’s all about $. If students, alumni and fans care then they would pressure Jr to step down before it ever gets that far.

From Reuters:

In emails to his colleagues over the years, Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr has denigrated students and staff at the Christian university he runs, referring to one student as “emotionally imbalanced and physically retarded” and calling the school’s police chief a “half-wit.”

...

As he complains of being targeted by critics, Reuters has found that Falwell himself was disparaging Liberty students, staff and parents for years in emails to Liberty administrators.

The several dozen emails reviewed by Reuters span nearly a decade-long period starting in 2008. In the emails, Falwell insults some Liberty students, calling them “social misfits.” In others, he blasts faculty members and senior Liberty staff:

-Ronald Sones, then the dean of the engineering school, was “a bag of hot air” who “couldn’t spell the word ‘profit,’” Falwell wrote in 2011. Sones is no longer the dean and could not be reached for comment.

-Richard Hinkley, the campus police chief, was “a half-wit and easy to manipulate” and shouldn’t be allowed to speak publicly. Hinkley could not be reached for comment.

-Of Kevin Keys, then Liberty’s associate athletics director, Falwell wrote in 2012: “Only get Kevin involved in something if you want it not to work.” Contacted by Reuters, Keys said: “I don’t know anything about that and I would prefer not to comment.”

Falwell was asked to comment on excerpts and summaries of the emails cited in this article. David Corry, Liberty’s general counsel, said Liberty wouldn’t respond “without knowing the details or seeing email chains in their entirety.”


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-f...SKCN1VX1QJ

Being a douche isn't illegal so I don't see where Liberty would be penalized (by the government; the free market will likely penalize LU by choosing different schools to attend, support, etc.). However, if this is true and the emails are as poor in context as they are shown out of context here, then I don't know what I think should happen. Who hasn't said stuff like this through email about a coworker? I'm sure almost every other school president has said things like this or felt like this. It certainly is a bad look and I'd be okay with him stepping down over it but I'd like to see the fallout first to see how damaging it is to LU.

I will say the more information that comes out the more I’m on board with him stepping down. I’m not a huge fan anyways.
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Liberty has made a response if anyone cares and hasn't seen it:

https://www.liberty.edu/index.cfm?PID=18495&mid=344356
09-13-2019 09:45 PM
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From AL.com:

No, he's definitely not a pastor. But here’s the thing: a Christian university doesn’t need a pastor at the helm. It just needs a principled follower of Christ. Just a decent person with a little humility and wisdom.

No institution can be effectively led by someone who rejects the ethical and moral standards that it asks its staff and students to live up to. That just doesn’t work—not if the institution in question wants to be anything other than a punchline for its detractors, in this case, the secular left.


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