(10-28-2016 11:39 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 11:35 AM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  The comment wasn't as awful as it sounds. If you listen to the whole exchange, she was laying on pretty thick her family's military experience and how that would impact her decision making. She wasn't wrong, but it was a little much. His comment was meant to be sarcasm, but it didn't come off that way. It was an ill timed, poorly delivered comment. It was not racially charged.

That being said, he is a very moderate Republican, regardless of what Max says. So, if you vote for him, that is what you get.

Tammy Duckworth military service is undebatable. Beyond that though, she's a pretty empty suit. She's had a series of patronage type jobs in government and then won office. She's not a free thinker and is just a follow the party leaders type. Nothing she says strikes me as that interesting, or to be honest, very original.

are you for real? that comment was bigoted and racist.

You clearly didn't listen to the whole exchange. Maybe give that a try before you click reply again and embarrass yourself.

(10-28-2016 12:08 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 11:39 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 11:35 AM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  The comment wasn't as awful as it sounds. If you listen to the whole exchange, she was laying on pretty thick her family's military experience and how that would impact her decision making. She wasn't wrong, but it was a little much. His comment was meant to be sarcasm, but it didn't come off that way. It was an ill timed, poorly delivered comment. It was not racially charged.

That being said, he is a very moderate Republican, regardless of what Max says. So, if you vote for him, that is what you get.

Tammy Duckworth military service is undebatable. Beyond that though, she's a pretty empty suit. She's had a series of patronage type jobs in government and then won office. She's not a free thinker and is just a follow the party leaders type. Nothing she says strikes me as that interesting, or to be honest, very original.

are you for real? that comment was bigoted and racist.

You clearly didn't listen to the whole exchange. Maybe give that a try before you click reply again and embarrass yourself.

you clearly support a racist/bigoted talking point.

(10-28-2016 12:09 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 12:08 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 11:39 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 11:35 AM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  The comment wasn't as awful as it sounds. If you listen to the whole exchange, she was laying on pretty thick her family's military experience and how that would impact her decision making. She wasn't wrong, but it was a little much. His comment was meant to be sarcasm, but it didn't come off that way. It was an ill timed, poorly delivered comment. It was not racially charged.

That being said, he is a very moderate Republican, regardless of what Max says. So, if you vote for him, that is what you get.

Tammy Duckworth military service is undebatable. Beyond that though, she's a pretty empty suit. She's had a series of patronage type jobs in government and then won office. She's not a free thinker and is just a follow the party leaders type. Nothing she says strikes me as that interesting, or to be honest, very original.

are you for real? that comment was bigoted and racist.

You clearly didn't listen to the whole exchange. Maybe give that a try before you click reply again and embarrass yourself.

you clearly support a racist/bigoted talking point.

One last time. You clearly did not listen to the whole exchange.

Congrats on embarrassing yourself yet again.

A progressive Democrat?

I bet her Revolutionary War ancestor is shaking his head at her political beliefs.

I wonder what theater her ancestor served in? I had two ancestors at Yorktown.

(10-28-2016 11:36 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  UofMemphisstateU,

I'm complaining only about the rich not paying enough taxes, not that they are indeed rich.

What percent of their income should they pay?

Give me a number.

(10-28-2016 12:06 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  Well, he's pro-choice, for more gun control and is pro-gay marriage. Come on Max.

He also wanted to shut the government down over Obamacare, doesn't want to give a SCOTUS nominee a hearing, supported filibustering Obama nominees as a matter of course, wants a war with Iran and intervention in Syria. But relative to other Republicans, sure I guess you could call him moderate.

He certainly didn't do anything to dispel the stereotype of today's Republican Party.

(10-28-2016 11:35 AM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  The comment wasn't as awful as it sounds. If you listen to the whole exchange, she was laying on pretty thick her family's military experience and how that would impact her decision making. She wasn't wrong, but it was a little much. His comment was meant to be sarcasm, but it didn't come off that way. It was an ill timed, poorly delivered comment. It was not racially charged.

I agree and disagree George. I agree, it was not a racially charged statement.

But it was a factual BLUNDER of epic proportions on Kirk's part, and yes it was as bad as it sounds.

(10-28-2016 01:21 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 11:35 AM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  The comment wasn't as awful as it sounds. If you listen to the whole exchange, she was laying on pretty thick her family's military experience and how that would impact her decision making. She wasn't wrong, but it was a little much. His comment was meant to be sarcasm, but it didn't come off that way. It was an ill timed, poorly delivered comment. It was not racially charged.

I agree and disagree George. I agree, it was not a racially charged statement.

But it was a factual BLUNDER of epic proportions on Kirk's part, and yes it was as bad as it sounds.

I agree with you on the blunder part. Entirely. I'm just commenting on the context and intent.

(10-28-2016 01:08 PM)Max Power Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 12:06 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  Well, he's pro-choice, for more gun control and is pro-gay marriage. Come on Max.

He also wanted to shut the government down over Obamacare, doesn't want to give a SCOTUS nominee a hearing, supported filibustering Obama nominees as a matter of course, wants a war with Iran and intervention in Syria. But relative to other Republicans, sure I guess you could call him moderate.

So, his foreign policy aligns with Hillary.

And, on the above mentioned domestic issues, he takes typical Republican positions.

I think you've made my point that he is a moderate.

so it's okay to say because of someone's heritage they contributed less to this country?

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Harmon,

100% above some ceiling.

(10-28-2016 01:51 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Harmon,

100% above some ceiling.

OK. Be flippant.

It wasn't.

I don't have to give exact details for my idea to be correct.

(10-28-2016 03:43 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  It wasn't.

I don't have to give exact details for my idea to be correct.

It wasn't a matter of right and wrong.

I am asking you to give a number for fair share.

It is funny. Everytime i ask a supporter of fair share, I never get an exact number.

And your idea is wrong.

(10-28-2016 01:12 PM)fsquid Wrote:  He certainly didn't do anything to dispel the stereotype of today's Republican Party.

weak-kneed? spineless? go along to get along?

that sort of stereotype?

Harmon,

It's correct. And it has nothing to do with an exact number.

(10-28-2016 01:28 PM)john01992 Wrote:  so it's okay to say because of someone's heritage they contributed less to this country?

He didn't say that, no matter how much you wish he did.