(05-23-2016 03:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The real delusion is that an organization with 50,000 or more big league players in the last three decades could really have no openly Gay players just by coincidence. I've always thought the Gay Night Out was always BS. Where are the out players? Where are the out player development/coaching staff?

My guess is if there were gay players - they chose to keep it private. So now we need to hire baseball personnel to cater to the "out players"? They can't be coached like everyone else?

(05-23-2016 03:38 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 03:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The real delusion is that an organization with 50,000 or more big league players in the last three decades could really have no openly Gay players just by coincidence. I've always thought the Gay Night Out was always BS. Where are the out players? Where are the out player development/coaching staff?

My guess is if there were gay players - they chose to keep it private. So now we need to hire baseball personnel to cater to the "out players"? They can't be coached like everyone else?

The absence of Gay players is evidence of an anti Gay culture in MLB MLB needs to turf out the anti Gay groups given special access at MLB facilities like AIA and FCA. MLB can also do more to ensure that coaches and scouts aren't anti Gay. Every single Gay player or coach, or scout has determined that it is dangerous to come out.

(05-23-2016 03:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The real delusion is that an organization with 50,000 or more big league players in the last three decades could really have no openly Gay players just by coincidence. I've always thought the Gay Night Out was always BS. Where are the out players? Where are the out player development/coaching staff?

Maybe killed during open season on homosexuals? Perhaps herded into concentration camps? Or maybe the gay ballplayers are are planning a march on Selma, prepping for the inevitable fire hoses, police dogs and other struggles gay people have to worry about these days?

(05-23-2016 04:04 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 03:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The real delusion is that an organization with 50,000 or more big league players in the last three decades could really have no openly Gay players just by coincidence. I've always thought the Gay Night Out was always BS. Where are the out players? Where are the out player development/coaching staff?

Maybe killed during open season on homosexuals? Perhaps herded into concentration camps? Or maybe the gay ballplayers are are planning a march on Selma, prepping for the inevitable fire hoses, police dogs and other struggles gay people have to worry about these days?

50,000 GameDay roster MLB players in the last 30 years. Zero openly Gay players. Probably a similar number of scouts and coaches. Zero openly Gay ones.

At some point, the numbers just become impossible to justify. Heck even a couple of African Americans made the NHL. There are FORMER MLB players that came out after ending their careers. Every single one cited an anti Gay culture as a reason to hide.

(05-23-2016 04:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 04:04 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 03:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The real delusion is that an organization with 50,000 or more big league players in the last three decades could really have no openly Gay players just by coincidence. I've always thought the Gay Night Out was always BS. Where are the out players? Where are the out player development/coaching staff?

Maybe killed during open season on homosexuals? Perhaps herded into concentration camps? Or maybe the gay ballplayers are are planning a march on Selma, prepping for the inevitable fire hoses, police dogs and other struggles gay people have to worry about these days?

50,000 GameDay roster MLB players in the last 30 years. Zero openly Gay players. Probably a similar number of scouts and coaches. Zero openly Gay ones.

At some point, the numbers just become impossible to justify. Heck even a couple of African Americans made the NHL. There are FORMER MLB players that came out after ending their careers. Every single one cited an anti Gay culture as a reason to hide.

Why are you obsessed with other people's private lives. I know of zero openly gay baseball, football, basketball, tennis, boxers, MMA, soccer players etc. It is none of your business.

(05-23-2016 03:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 03:38 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-23-2016 03:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The real delusion is that an organization with 50,000 or more big league players in the last three decades could really have no openly Gay players just by coincidence. I've always thought the Gay Night Out was always BS. Where are the out players? Where are the out player development/coaching staff?

My guess is if there were gay players - they chose to keep it private. So now we need to hire baseball personnel to cater to the "out players"? They can't be coached like everyone else?

The absence of Gay players is evidence of an anti Gay culture in MLB MLB needs to turf out the anti Gay groups given special access at MLB facilities like AIA and FCA. MLB can also do more to ensure that coaches and scouts aren't anti Gay. Every single Gay player or coach, or scout has determined that it is dangerous to come out.

Don't really need to come out. I figure there is nothing wrong with folks sexual proclivities being kept behind closed doors anyway........

(05-23-2016 03:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The real delusion is that an organization with 50,000 or more big league players in the last three decades could really have no openly Gay players just by coincidence. I've always thought the Gay Night Out was always BS. Where are the out players? Where are the out player development/coaching staff?

Yeah. And they'd probably be left fielders. And throw like obama.

(05-22-2016 08:00 PM)dfarr Wrote:  I'm going to sue this group for excluding heterosexual men. Isn't that the liberal solution for private groups letting in who they want? Scream, pout, hold their breath, and then threaten to sue.

How do you prove you're gay so you can join?

What if you can't sing?!?

Can you still be gay and sing Bass?

It looks like an honest mistake to me. Just because the folks are gay doesn't make them a victim of anything more than an accident.

(05-22-2016 03:51 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  This is outrageous. This team should have to forfeit the rest of their season, the owner should have to sale this team and the front office should be gutted from top to bottom. Homophobia and bigotry will not be tolerated in this country.

Tell me, how does one attain a -300 rep?

(05-23-2016 05:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It looks like an honest mistake to me. Just because the folks are gay doesn't make them a victim of anything more than an accident.

This is not how the left thinks.

DJ was fired, Padres will invite Chorus back.

http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/fir...1tgqwqtmjt

That's kind of messed up if he got fired. I saw a statement from the dude saying it was an accidental mistake, that he had friends and family in the LGBT community, that he was upset about the hate that some of the fans shouted, and that he was reaching out to members of the LGBT community to apologize more formally.

Wonder if he'd have been fired for doing the same thing over a children's choir performance or something.

The problem is that the pro teams have zero credibility with the LGBT community as a result of their refusal to hire members of our community. Due to our concentration in large cities, we end up paying thru taxes and must carry cable deals a far greater share of the costs of these teams subsidies than the general public. What do we get for our money? I wish people would get upset about that.

(05-24-2016 01:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The problem is that the pro teams have zero credibility with the LGBT community as a result of their refusal to hire members of our community.

How many sacrificial hires would be appropriate? Please clearly show the math required to "gain credibility" within the LGBT community.

(05-24-2016 01:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Due to our concentration in large cities, we end up paying thru taxes and must carry cable deals a far greater share of the costs of these teams subsidies than the general public.

Did you seriously just post that gays are angry about un-proportional cable fees?

"Hey hey, ho ho, higher un-porportional cable fees subsidizing baseball teams have go to go ho ho"

(05-24-2016 01:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  What do we get for our money? I wish people would get upset about that.

Funny, I feel the same thing about public radio, welfare, supporting the arts and and other liberal totems......

(05-24-2016 01:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The problem is that the pro teams have zero credibility with the LGBT community as a result of their refusal to hire members of our community. Due to our concentration in large cities, we end up paying thru taxes and must carry cable deals a far greater share of the costs of these teams subsidies than the general public. What do we get for our money? I wish people would get upset about that.

Who is forcing gays to live in large cities? Who is forcing them to live in large cities who subsidize their pro sports teams?

(05-24-2016 01:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The problem is that the pro teams have zero credibility with the LGBT community as a result of their refusal to hire members of our community. Due to our concentration in large cities, we end up paying thru taxes and must carry cable deals a far greater share of the costs of these teams subsidies than the general public. What do we get for our money? I wish people would get upset about that.

How would you know how many gay people work for pro teams?
Blacks are concentrated in larger cities, so are Asian immigrants, so
are people with advanced degrees. big cities almost always have higher taxes of various sorts. You still have cable?

(05-24-2016 01:49 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(05-24-2016 01:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The problem is that the pro teams have zero credibility with the LGBT community as a result of their refusal to hire members of our community. Due to our concentration in large cities, we end up paying thru taxes and must carry cable deals a far greater share of the costs of these teams subsidies than the general public. What do we get for our money? I wish people would get upset about that.

Who is forcing gays to live in large cities? Who is forcing them to live in large cities who subsidize their pro sports teams?

If they moved then they can't cruise public restrooms for stranger sex.

(05-24-2016 01:43 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-24-2016 01:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The problem is that the pro teams have zero credibility with the LGBT community as a result of their refusal to hire members of our community.

How many sacrificial hires would be appropriate? Please clearly show the math required to "gain credibility" within the LGBT community.

(05-24-2016 01:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Due to our concentration in large cities, we end up paying thru taxes and must carry cable deals a far greater share of the costs of these teams subsidies than the general public.

Did you seriously just post that gays are angry about un-proportional cable fees?

"Hey hey, ho ho, higher un-porportional cable fees subsidizing baseball teams have go to go ho ho"

(05-24-2016 01:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  What do we get for our money? I wish people would get upset about that.

Funny, I feel the same thing about public radio, welfare, supporting the arts and and other liberal totems......

How about tossing out anti gay groups from the lockerrooms, banning owners that support employment discrimination (McNair), removing awards from people who advocate not hiring Gay players (Dungy), firing homophobic coaches (Vikings) who advocate violence towards LGBT persons, and end to firing players simply because they support LGBT rights (Kluwe), firing scouts that attempt to weed out players based upon a rumor they might be gay (Broncos), etc. Zero out tens of thousands of game day NFL players, coaches, and scouts is hard to justify based upon numbers. There are Gay players. They just face a horrendously hostile work environment.

No Gay players, no Gay coaches, no Gay scouts...ever. And the league enables anti Gay behavior from its owners, and its players.