"Pitino says Cards will open season with Evansville & William & Mary"

Not a huge surprise, but it sounds like we will play Louisville week 1 or 2.

(05-30-2016 09:25 PM)Tribeheart Wrote:  Saw where UVA is playing at UNC-Greensboro (Greensboro Coliseum) next season....and no, the ACC Tournament doesn't return there until 2020, so, no other rationale for playing there...UNC-Greensboro finished with a 204 Ken Pomeroy rating last season. Absolutely no reason for UVA or Tech to not come to Kaplan, other than fear of losing.

These are about gaming the RPI for major conference teams, and it's actually smart scheduling. No way they'll come to Kaplan for a game they might lose (and it makes no sense for them to on their end).

(05-13-2016 07:46 AM)NC Tribe Wrote:  

(05-13-2016 07:23 AM)Blow Gym rat Wrote:  Read down in the article, and there's some discussion of a 2 games for 1 deal that Louisville struck with Grand Canyon, and apparently a similar deal in the past with Western Kentucky. At least in some years, Pitino apparently likes to get his young players some experience on the road. I wonder if we have offered something similar?

Grand Canyon plays in Phoenix, Rick might just want to get a round of golf in.

Grand Canyon, a school many have never heard of, is ambitious to the max. There're on the way up.

Louisville at #13 in ESPN's preseason poll. Center Chinanu Onuaku committing to NFL draft helps us a little.

(06-02-2016 12:21 AM)Tribeheart Wrote:  Louisville at #13 in ESPN's preseason poll. Center Chinanu Onuaku committing to NFL draft helps us a little.

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You got'ta love those "student-athletes" - I wonder how Chinanu did on his College Boards??

"Rhode Island will host William & Mary on December 22nd, source told @CBSSports."

(06-07-2016 12:07 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  "Rhode Island will host William & Mary on December 22nd, source told @CBSSports."

Always good to play A-10 teams

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(06-07-2016 01:05 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 12:07 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  "Rhode Island will host William & Mary on December 22nd, source told @CBSSports."

Always good to play A-10 teams

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Even better if we host them, wonder if there's any shot at a home and home with URI.

I think I read this somewhere else but there will be a familiar face on the URI bench.

http://www.gorhody.com/sports/m-baskbl/coaches/davidcox

EDIT: If I looked it's down several threads. mrjoolius posted his promotion to Associate HC.

URI possible top 20 next season and favored in A10 with Dayton...

Seeing Louisville and URI fans, both, refer to us as solid additions to their OOC really says it all about where the program is at these days.

Saw it stated in a tweet that URI was not a home and home, so, probably a buy game. URI forward Kuran Iverson was Daniel's top 30 rated teammate at Fishburne.

I saw a great article about how the A10 could secure more NCAA bids and wondered if it would work for the CAA.

Two divisions, and those divisions are realigned each year based on rpi. The top half of the conference, RPI wise, will play each other the following year. In theory, this eliminates some of the "bad losses" that come as a result of losing to lower RPI teams in conference play. And, since it is realigned each year, it allows for those in the bottom tier to move up based on success.

If the theory pans out, the possibility for multiple bids increases, based on the higher ranked teams maintaining higher RPI's come selection time. And, as multiple bids increase, so does NCAA revenue, thereby helping all teams increase their basketball budgets.

2016-2017

Div I UNCW 52, Hofstra 57, Tribe 72, JMU 106 , NU 114

Div II CoC 138, Towson 156, Elon 162, Drexel 251, Delaware 275

We'd need more schools to make this happen, but the benefits are obvious. Think about the potential RPI rankings for that Div I lineup?

That's a very strong basis, but the CAA would probably need to add an additional two teams (minimum) and would have to go to an unbalanced schedule, where the top tier would play each other home and home, while meeting the second tier only once a year (16 game schedule - thus also allowing for 2 more out of conference matchups).

In theory, sounds good. Don't know the amount of pushback it would receive or if there could be adjustments for a team/school that should be much improved during a certain year (don't need a breakout year by a team, who had a bad season the year before, to go wasted). I do know this, the new CAA Commissioner needs to put his head together with SOME smart folks to figure out a way to raise our profile back up so we are in the conversation for extra bids.

I'm thinking if the CAA was to pursue a 2 division set up for basketball, based upon the model above that options would be limited.

I assume that FBS schools, schools very much outside of our current foot print, schools in the A10, AAC and schools in higher rated basketball conferences, or former CAA schools wouldn't be interested either.

I would think that the CAA would want schools rated in the top 150 for raising RPI, even though those schools might be 2nd division schools initially. The ability to add 2 additional OOC games could also help raise RPI.

Based upon the above criteria, it would seem that raiding America East to make Albany (108) and Stony Brook (63) all sports members would make most sense. After that raiding the Big South for Winthrop (131), UNCA (132), or High Point (152) might work, or looking at the Metro Atlantic for Monmouth (55), Iona (85), Siena (123), or Fairfield (150) or some combination there off would seem to make sense.

Is this logical? Would there be better choices that might have had off years last year, or that I ruled out with my assumptions? Sometimes its fun to speculate...

I think Hofstra previously blocked Stony Brook during last set of expansion talks.

(06-09-2016 09:39 AM)LeadBolt Wrote:  I'm thinking if the CAA was to pursue a 2 division set up for basketball, based upon the model above that options would be limited.

I assume that FBS schools, schools very much outside of our current foot print, schools in the A10, AAC and schools in higher rated basketball conferences, or former CAA schools wouldn't be interested either.

I would think that the CAA would want schools rated in the top 150 for raising RPI, even though those schools might be 2nd division schools initially. The ability to add 2 additional OOC games could also help raise RPI.

Based upon the above criteria, it would seem that raiding America East to make Albany (108) and Stony Brook (63) all sports members would make most sense. After that raiding the Big South for Winthrop (131), UNCA (132), or High Point (152) might work, or looking at the Metro Atlantic for Monmouth (55), Iona (85), Siena (123), or Fairfield (150) or some combination there off would seem to make sense.

Is this logical? Would there be better choices that might have had off years last year, or that I ruled out with my assumptions? Sometimes its fun to speculate...

It's imprtant to look at teams oer history, not just one season's RPI. Momnouth has been nothing special historically, and their football would be a drag on the CAA. Not worth adding them over one ok season where they lost early on in the NCAA.

Albany/Stony Brook/Siena would all be pretty good adds, Siena has a sneaky big fanbase; their lowest home attendance last year was 5k, and they hit 10k for bigger games. They play in a pretty nice arena in Albany. They don't hae football, though. However, the conference appears to want to move south, with the basketball tournament moing to Charleston, so the northern schools might not be the best adds.

For Southern Schools, none of the ones you mentioned offer football, nor do they have a great history. High Point has won their conference regular season for the past few years, but they haven't won the tournament and they play in a glorified high school gym. Other southern schools that could be worth looking into might be Mercer, Liberty, Wofford, the Citadel, or Furman.

Back to the schedule for next year, am I right in seeing the timing of the URI game as a significant departure from our practice in recent years?

Seems to me we normally play one post-exam, pre-Christmas game each year: a home game against a D3 opponent.

So will we drop the D3 game or still play it and fly quickly to URI for a quick turnaround game?

Exams end on the 14th, so would imagine Tony will still have a D3 game pencilled in for the 16th. URI game is not until the 22nd...

(06-09-2016 11:39 AM)TDenverFan Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 09:39 AM)LeadBolt Wrote:  I'm thinking if the CAA was to pursue a 2 division set up for basketball, based upon the model above that options would be limited.

I assume that FBS schools, schools very much outside of our current foot print, schools in the A10, AAC and schools in higher rated basketball conferences, or former CAA schools wouldn't be interested either.

I would think that the CAA would want schools rated in the top 150 for raising RPI, even though those schools might be 2nd division schools initially. The ability to add 2 additional OOC games could also help raise RPI.

Based upon the above criteria, it would seem that raiding America East to make Albany (108) and Stony Brook (63) all sports members would make most sense. After that raiding the Big South for Winthrop (131), UNCA (132), or High Point (152) might work, or looking at the Metro Atlantic for Monmouth (55), Iona (85), Siena (123), or Fairfield (150) or some combination there off would seem to make sense.

Is this logical? Would there be better choices that might have had off years last year, or that I ruled out with my assumptions? Sometimes its fun to speculate...

It's imprtant to look at teams oer history, not just one season's RPI. Momnouth has been nothing special historically, and their football would be a drag on the CAA. Not worth adding them over one ok season where they lost early on in the NCAA.

Albany/Stony Brook/Siena would all be pretty good adds, Siena has a sneaky big fanbase; their lowest home attendance last year was 5k, and they hit 10k for bigger games. They play in a pretty nice arena in Albany. They don't hae football, though. However, the conference appears to want to move south, with the basketball tournament moing to Charleston, so the northern schools might not be the best adds.

For Southern Schools, none of the ones you mentioned offer football, nor do they have a great history. High Point has won their conference regular season for the past few years, but they haven't won the tournament and they play in a glorified high school gym. Other southern schools that could be worth looking into might be Mercer, Liberty, Wofford, the Citadel, or Furman.

On the Southern schools, I had assumed that Liberty wouldn't stick around very long driven by football, Mercer was outside of the footprint and Wofford, the Citadel and Furman were down in basketball. That being said, I love the Furman campus and enjoyed going there when we were in the SoCon, the location of Liberty in VA is a big plus for me, and why not another member in Charleston? Mercer is an up and comer in FB, I don't know anything about the other sports and they are even farther away than Ga. State. I've never been wild about Wofford...

I prefer looking South and would gladly welcome ODU and Davidson as well. I'm not holding my breath.

Checking back on the rundown of upcoming early season tournaments, all of the major tourneys are full. Among them is the Charleston Classic hosted by CofC who managed to pull in Villanova and Wake Forest - among others - in the 8 team bracketed field. Very impressive for the Cougs.

The full list includes bracketed tourneys (like above) which attract the best fields. Also included are the non bracket tourneys where you have a few big names sprinkled in, who wins some of the early home floor match-ups is irrelevant - the idea is to just get the four name schools to a common location.

I noticed one bracketed tourney that would think may have some interest from W&M, the Savannah Invitational which is an 8 team, bracketed tourney. They report two openings remain. Teams already in the field are Air Force, Georgia Southern, Mercer, East Carolina, Akron and Radford. This would seem to be a nice slot to fill.

There's a chance URI will offer us a return game, I was reading an article on Sports Nation about a site where teams can search for games to play (http://www.midmajormadness.com/2016/6/15...ode-island) and it syas URI is looking for a mid December home game against a top 150 RPI team, and they're open to a return game. Makes me wonder if WM was offered the same deal