(12-21-2015 12:39 PM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 12:21 PM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 09:57 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 09:29 AM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 09:24 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Also, was there any truth to our players taunting App State fans after the first half? People on Yosef's Cabin are claiming this is true, calling us classless.

Maybe they've never seen a football game before. I can't recall a game in a long time where someone wasn't taunting someone else about something. Do they think their players never taunt anyone?

I have a feeling if there was any taunting it was started by the fans. It usually is.

I think the fact that the entire Ohio football team appeared to rush over to our primary fan section to taunt the fans, when they were likely just waiting for our team to clear out so they could exit the field, is why so many App fans were upset about it. I was in that section. The Ohio players definitely started it. I saw double birds from several OU players and other mocking gestures. It would have certainly generates a flag or two had the officials still been on the field. The App fans gave it right back with one of the strongest A-S-U chants I've ever heard. Several of our players saw the whole thing go down.

The thing that had me confused was the inexplicable hubris that prompted such an action by the OU team. I mean, they had just been statistically dominated at the end of the first half. They had a lead based on two bone-headed plays by the Mountaineers. I understand that the game doesn't stop when you're not on offense, but I wouldn't have been very confident even with a lead had I been an Ohio fan at that point in time.

All the OU fans I met were great. Very nice, fun, and knowledgeable fan base. Although I think a lot of OU players have a lot to learn with regards to sportsmanship and humility (a lesson I was happy to see the Black and Gold teach them on national TV), I left with an overall good impression of the Ohio University.

Great game. Great experience.

Like I thought, I guess this was your first football game.

So when ASU players made big plays, that was humility they were exhibiting, not cockiness. Interesting perception.

some of their fans were upset because the Ohio players were "mocking an arm motion thing the ASU players do when they make a big play". The irony is completely lost on them.

(12-21-2015 02:54 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 12:18 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  Who do you think will be his replacement? Is there an OC or DC who's been in Athens a while?

the OC and DC have both been there since 2005. Nothing against them but I hope its not anyone from Frank's staff. That would be change without changing. When Frank leaves new blood is needed.

Thanks for the info. Depending on who your AD is and how long they've been at OU, they might be the first and second choice for the job. That can be a dangerous path if they don't look at anything else but longevity and their association with Solich, Miami found out the hard way with Montgomery.

(12-20-2015 01:02 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  Ohio's senior starting QB never got into the game even when the 2nd string QB went down. After the game OU's beat righter tweeted that Solich said in teh presser that Vick hurt his knee in practice this week and didn't trust playing on it. Vick replied to the tweet with- "lies.smh".

something isnt right and I'm not happy about it. Bobcats win with Vick under center.

Agreed. I think Vick would have been able to put away that game. Anyone have any new insight why they didn't put him in, other than a "hurt knee"?

Some questionable coaching decisions, but I don't think Solich needs to worry about his job anytime soon. Frank the Tank Solich and his staff has brought OU's football program out of irrelevance.

(12-21-2015 12:39 PM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 12:21 PM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 09:57 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 09:29 AM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 09:24 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Also, was there any truth to our players taunting App State fans after the first half? People on Yosef's Cabin are claiming this is true, calling us classless.

Maybe they've never seen a football game before. I can't recall a game in a long time where someone wasn't taunting someone else about something. Do they think their players never taunt anyone?

I have a feeling if there was any taunting it was started by the fans. It usually is.

I think the fact that the entire Ohio football team appeared to rush over to our primary fan section to taunt the fans, when they were likely just waiting for our team to clear out so they could exit the field, is why so many App fans were upset about it. I was in that section. The Ohio players definitely started it. I saw double birds from several OU players and other mocking gestures. It would have certainly generates a flag or two had the officials still been on the field. The App fans gave it right back with one of the strongest A-S-U chants I've ever heard. Several of our players saw the whole thing go down.

The thing that had me confused was the inexplicable hubris that prompted such an action by the OU team. I mean, they had just been statistically dominated at the end of the first half. They had a lead based on two bone-headed plays by the Mountaineers. I understand that the game doesn't stop when you're not on offense, but I wouldn't have been very confident even with a lead had I been an Ohio fan at that point in time.

All the OU fans I met were great. Very nice, fun, and knowledgeable fan base. Although I think a lot of OU players have a lot to learn with regards to sportsmanship and humility (a lesson I was happy to see the Black and Gold teach them on national TV), I left with an overall good impression of the Ohio University.

Great game. Great experience.

Like I thought, I guess this was your first football game.

So when ASU players made big plays, that was humility they were exhibiting, not cockiness. Interesting perception.

Just curious, were you there?


I don't have a problem with guys celebrating a big play, either play, so long as they don't go full fledged "The U". What your team did coming to the locker room was classless. If you saw it, you couldn't defend it. That was the only instance during the whole weekend that I came away unimpressed with your team and fans, FWIW. It's also the moment I knew we were going to win, karma doesn't let stuff like that slide.

Hey, Axe, I didn't know Ohio was "your team."

(12-21-2015 03:07 PM)TheMackAttack Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 12:39 PM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 12:21 PM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 09:57 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 09:29 AM)axeme Wrote:  Maybe they've never seen a football game before. I can't recall a game in a long time where someone wasn't taunting someone else about something. Do they think their players never taunt anyone?

I have a feeling if there was any taunting it was started by the fans. It usually is.

I think the fact that the entire Ohio football team appeared to rush over to our primary fan section to taunt the fans, when they were likely just waiting for our team to clear out so they could exit the field, is why so many App fans were upset about it. I was in that section. The Ohio players definitely started it. I saw double birds from several OU players and other mocking gestures. It would have certainly generates a flag or two had the officials still been on the field. The App fans gave it right back with one of the strongest A-S-U chants I've ever heard. Several of our players saw the whole thing go down.

The thing that had me confused was the inexplicable hubris that prompted such an action by the OU team. I mean, they had just been statistically dominated at the end of the first half. They had a lead based on two bone-headed plays by the Mountaineers. I understand that the game doesn't stop when you're not on offense, but I wouldn't have been very confident even with a lead had I been an Ohio fan at that point in time.

All the OU fans I met were great. Very nice, fun, and knowledgeable fan base. Although I think a lot of OU players have a lot to learn with regards to sportsmanship and humility (a lesson I was happy to see the Black and Gold teach them on national TV), I left with an overall good impression of the Ohio University.

Great game. Great experience.

Like I thought, I guess this was your first football game.

So when ASU players made big plays, that was humility they were exhibiting, not cockiness. Interesting perception.

Just curious, were you there?


I don't have a problem with guys celebrating a big play, either play, so long as they don't go full fledged "The U". What your team did coming to the locker room was classless. If you saw it, you couldn't defend it. That was the only instance during the whole weekend that I came away unimpressed with your team and fans, FWIW. It's also the moment I knew we were going to win, karma doesn't let stuff like that slide.

I wasn't at the game. Why would I be? Nobody ever accused me of being an Ohio fan. Watched it on TV. I just see here the typical "your side is classless/my side is great" blind view of the game. I saw both sides acting like most teams do. It's laughable to suggest either side was showing "humility."

(12-21-2015 03:30 PM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 03:07 PM)TheMackAttack Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 12:39 PM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 12:21 PM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 09:57 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  I have a feeling if there was any taunting it was started by the fans. It usually is.

I think the fact that the entire Ohio football team appeared to rush over to our primary fan section to taunt the fans, when they were likely just waiting for our team to clear out so they could exit the field, is why so many App fans were upset about it. I was in that section. The Ohio players definitely started it. I saw double birds from several OU players and other mocking gestures. It would have certainly generates a flag or two had the officials still been on the field. The App fans gave it right back with one of the strongest A-S-U chants I've ever heard. Several of our players saw the whole thing go down.

The thing that had me confused was the inexplicable hubris that prompted such an action by the OU team. I mean, they had just been statistically dominated at the end of the first half. They had a lead based on two bone-headed plays by the Mountaineers. I understand that the game doesn't stop when you're not on offense, but I wouldn't have been very confident even with a lead had I been an Ohio fan at that point in time.

All the OU fans I met were great. Very nice, fun, and knowledgeable fan base. Although I think a lot of OU players have a lot to learn with regards to sportsmanship and humility (a lesson I was happy to see the Black and Gold teach them on national TV), I left with an overall good impression of the Ohio University.

Great game. Great experience.

Like I thought, I guess this was your first football game.

So when ASU players made big plays, that was humility they were exhibiting, not cockiness. Interesting perception.

Just curious, were you there?


I don't have a problem with guys celebrating a big play, either play, so long as they don't go full fledged "The U". What your team did coming to the locker room was classless. If you saw it, you couldn't defend it. That was the only instance during the whole weekend that I came away unimpressed with your team and fans, FWIW. It's also the moment I knew we were going to win, karma doesn't let stuff like that slide.

I wasn't at the game. Why would I be? Nobody ever accused me of being an Ohio fan. Watched it on TV. I just see here the typical "your side is classless/my side is great" blind view of the game. I saw both sides acting like most teams do. It's laughable to suggest either side was showing "humility."

So basically what you're saying is that you have no idea what you're talking about? Because they didn't show the Ohio players entering the locker room before half time on TV. You literally did not see what people are talking about here, how could you possibly feel the need to weigh in?

Ohio players, especially #51, had a fun time mocking App's celebration hand motion and really enjoyed directing at our side of the field. I thought it was funny, I see that as a sign of respect actually. Imitation and all. NFL teams do it to the Panthers all the time.

I have never seen over 50% of a team rush (and I do mean run) over to the opposing sideline to taunt fans at halftime, I don't see how anyone can say fans (at least fans on that side of the field) provoked them as they never broke stride between the running over and jestures. It was very unusual, I'll just leave it at that.

I enjoyed all my interactions with the Ohio fan base I had in the 48 hour period for the bowl, except for that one guy that decided to bring his Ohio flag to the App side after the field goal to get to 29 points and run between the lower and upper section. I'm glad the cop caught him before he got too far that could've ended poorly.

(12-21-2015 03:53 PM)TheMackAttack Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 03:30 PM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 03:07 PM)TheMackAttack Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 12:39 PM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 12:21 PM)DrGonzo Wrote:  I think the fact that the entire Ohio football team appeared to rush over to our primary fan section to taunt the fans, when they were likely just waiting for our team to clear out so they could exit the field, is why so many App fans were upset about it. I was in that section. The Ohio players definitely started it. I saw double birds from several OU players and other mocking gestures. It would have certainly generates a flag or two had the officials still been on the field. The App fans gave it right back with one of the strongest A-S-U chants I've ever heard. Several of our players saw the whole thing go down.

The thing that had me confused was the inexplicable hubris that prompted such an action by the OU team. I mean, they had just been statistically dominated at the end of the first half. They had a lead based on two bone-headed plays by the Mountaineers. I understand that the game doesn't stop when you're not on offense, but I wouldn't have been very confident even with a lead had I been an Ohio fan at that point in time.

All the OU fans I met were great. Very nice, fun, and knowledgeable fan base. Although I think a lot of OU players have a lot to learn with regards to sportsmanship and humility (a lesson I was happy to see the Black and Gold teach them on national TV), I left with an overall good impression of the Ohio University.

Great game. Great experience.

Like I thought, I guess this was your first football game.

So when ASU players made big plays, that was humility they were exhibiting, not cockiness. Interesting perception.

Just curious, were you there?


I don't have a problem with guys celebrating a big play, either play, so long as they don't go full fledged "The U". What your team did coming to the locker room was classless. If you saw it, you couldn't defend it. That was the only instance during the whole weekend that I came away unimpressed with your team and fans, FWIW. It's also the moment I knew we were going to win, karma doesn't let stuff like that slide.

I wasn't at the game. Why would I be? Nobody ever accused me of being an Ohio fan. Watched it on TV. I just see here the typical "your side is classless/my side is great" blind view of the game. I saw both sides acting like most teams do. It's laughable to suggest either side was showing "humility."

So basically what you're saying is that you have no idea what you're talking about? Because they didn't show the Ohio players entering the locker room before half time on TV. You literally did not see what people are talking about here, how could you possibly feel the need to weigh in?

How could you possibly believe coming onto a MAC board as a visitor with the obvious intent to stir it up, would wind up stirring it up? I know. Crazy.

(12-21-2015 12:39 PM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 12:21 PM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 09:57 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 09:29 AM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 09:24 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Also, was there any truth to our players taunting App State fans after the first half? People on Yosef's Cabin are claiming this is true, calling us classless.

Maybe they've never seen a football game before. I can't recall a game in a long time where someone wasn't taunting someone else about something. Do they think their players never taunt anyone?

I have a feeling if there was any taunting it was started by the fans. It usually is.

I think the fact that the entire Ohio football team appeared to rush over to our primary fan section to taunt the fans, when they were likely just waiting for our team to clear out so they could exit the field, is why so many App fans were upset about it. I was in that section. The Ohio players definitely started it. I saw double birds from several OU players and other mocking gestures. It would have certainly generates a flag or two had the officials still been on the field. The App fans gave it right back with one of the strongest A-S-U chants I've ever heard. Several of our players saw the whole thing go down.

The thing that had me confused was the inexplicable hubris that prompted such an action by the OU team. I mean, they had just been statistically dominated at the end of the first half. They had a lead based on two bone-headed plays by the Mountaineers. I understand that the game doesn't stop when you're not on offense, but I wouldn't have been very confident even with a lead had I been an Ohio fan at that point in time.

All the OU fans I met were great. Very nice, fun, and knowledgeable fan base. Although I think a lot of OU players have a lot to learn with regards to sportsmanship and humility (a lesson I was happy to see the Black and Gold teach them on national TV), I left with an overall good impression of the Ohio University.

Great game. Great experience.

Like I thought, I guess this was your first football game.

So when ASU players made big plays, that was humility they were exhibiting, not cockiness. Interesting perception.

I've been watching college football my entire life (I'm 26.5). I've been an App fan since my freshman year in 2007. I've never seen the Mountaineers or any other college football team run over in mass and stand right up against an opposing fan base's section (just feet from the fans in the front row) giving them the finger and yelling obscenities. Maybe you're used to some different stuff in the MAC.

I've seen most teams celebrate big plays and show their asses in different ways. Fight other players. Talk smack, etc. There was a major distinction between the former and the latter. We wouldn't be talking about it if it weren't something uncommon.

You won't find any sour grapes about this incident from the Camellia Bowl Champions. People are just sharing their experience.

(12-21-2015 04:26 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  How could you possibly believe coming onto a MAC board as a visitor with the obvious intent to stir it up, would wind up stirring it up? I know. Crazy.

The first post mentioning it was made by an Ohio fan, if you weren't there in person you didn't see what people are talking about because it wasn't shown on TV. I don't believe either team did anything during the game that crossed the line, but the halftime display was obnoxious and classless. As I previously said, it was the only thing about the team or fans that I wasn't impressed with.

You have some very delicate sensibilities. Congratulations on your players and fans who I'm sure have never done anything to upset you. I'm sure they were all a model of decorum throughout the game. Sober. Humble. Respectful.

(12-21-2015 05:08 PM)axeme Wrote:  You have some very delicate sensibilities. Congratulations on your players and fans who I'm sure have never done anything to upset you. I'm sure they were all a model of decorum throughout the game. Sober. Humble. Respectful.

I'm not aware of App's players doing something like that since I've been a fan. If they have I wouldn't hesitate to say that I thought they should be better than that. Pretending it didn't happen or wasn't classless doesn't make it so.

(12-21-2015 06:30 PM)TheMackAttack Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 05:08 PM)axeme Wrote:  You have some very delicate sensibilities. Congratulations on your players and fans who I'm sure have never done anything to upset you. I'm sure they were all a model of decorum throughout the game. Sober. Humble. Respectful.

I'm not aware of App's players doing something like that since I've been a fan. If they have I wouldn't hesitate to say that I thought they should be better than that. Pretending it didn't happen or wasn't classless doesn't make it so.

I'm not suggesting your players did this specific thing, which seems to be an issue for 2 or 3 of your posters. But to suggest your players never engage in douchebaggery at other times shows you are either disingenuous, hypocritical, or clueless. For years now, I don't think I have seen any team whose players don't act like ******** at some point in a game. It's the style of the time. You want to overreact to Ohio players in this case and pretend your players are never classless, fine. Live in your bubble.

(12-21-2015 07:32 PM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 06:30 PM)TheMackAttack Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 05:08 PM)axeme Wrote:  You have some very delicate sensibilities. Congratulations on your players and fans who I'm sure have never done anything to upset you. I'm sure they were all a model of decorum throughout the game. Sober. Humble. Respectful.

I'm not aware of App's players doing something like that since I've been a fan. If they have I wouldn't hesitate to say that I thought they should be better than that. Pretending it didn't happen or wasn't classless doesn't make it so.

I'm not suggesting your players did this specific thing, which seems to be an issue for 2 or 3 of your posters. But to suggest your players never engage in douchebaggery at other times shows you are either disingenuous, hypocritical, or clueless. For years now, I don't think I have seen any team whose players don't act like ******** at some point in a game. It's the style of the time. You want to overreact to Ohio players in this case and pretend your players are never classless, fine. Live in your bubble.

None of the Ohio players looked up to the stands when they came back out after halftime, I think ohios coaches noticed the acts and gave them a talk at the half.

(12-21-2015 07:46 PM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 07:32 PM)axeme Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 06:30 PM)TheMackAttack Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 05:08 PM)axeme Wrote:  You have some very delicate sensibilities. Congratulations on your players and fans who I'm sure have never done anything to upset you. I'm sure they were all a model of decorum throughout the game. Sober. Humble. Respectful.

I'm not aware of App's players doing something like that since I've been a fan. If they have I wouldn't hesitate to say that I thought they should be better than that. Pretending it didn't happen or wasn't classless doesn't make it so.

I'm not suggesting your players did this specific thing, which seems to be an issue for 2 or 3 of your posters. But to suggest your players never engage in douchebaggery at other times shows you are either disingenuous, hypocritical, or clueless. For years now, I don't think I have seen any team whose players don't act like ******** at some point in a game. It's the style of the time. You want to overreact to Ohio players in this case and pretend your players are never classless, fine. Live in your bubble.

thanks for posting that to prove exactly how overblown and stupid the whining about the "taunting" at a halftime really is.

and it is overblown. and it is stupid.

I agree it was stupid and I bet your coaches agreed.

Very successful bowl....good crowd, and good TV ratings to boot!

BOONE, N.C. — Appalachian State University football’s heart-stopping 31-29 win over Ohio in last Saturday’s Raycom Media Camellia Bowl was a hit for ESPN.

According to sportsmediawatch.com, the ESPN telecast of the second-annual Raycom Media Camellia Bowl drew 1.9 million viewers nationwide. The viewership was the largest of three bowl games on cable television on Saturday and second-highest of six bowl games on ESPN through Tuesday (the Boca Raton Bowl between Temple and Toledo drew 2.0M viewers in primetime on Tuesday night).

Additionally, Camellia Bowl viewership was 73 percent higher than last year’s inaugural matchup between Bowling Green and South Alabama and 28 percent higher than the bowl game played in the same time slot in 2014 (the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl between Air Force and Western Michigan).

Making the Raycom Media Camellia Bowl’s huge increase in viewership even more impressive is the fact that of the six bowl games aired by ESPN through Tuesday, the Camellia Bowl was the only one that didn’t have a decline in viewership from last year. While Camellia Bowl viewership was up 73 percent, the New Mexico Bowl (1.8M viewers, down 4% from 2014), New Orleans Bowl (1.5M, -37%), Miami Beach Bowl (1.2M, -13%), Famous Idaho Potato Bowl (1.1M, -26%) and Boca Raton Bowl (2.0M, -13%) all had viewer viewers than in 2014.