(11-25-2014 11:52 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This is the kind of thing you have to deal with, the media, the looters, the race baiters. If that is what you have to deal with and you cannot be brutally honest about race in this country then you will do what most middle ground Americans do, move their kids out of ****** public schools, and leave neighborhoods to the thugs, parasites, and race hustlers. In the end they lose, not the people leaving them to their fate.

You just aren't allowed to be honest about race in this country.

insert 'culture' for 'race' and that is win.....

I'm pretty certain not all blacks are problematic, nor are all whiteys living the limelight....

this all stems from oppression via the dollar....in one form or another, it has always been that way....

since the advent of the net, the media has unleashed a new brand of news and oppression...

it's just fun to view from the sadist's window....

I can't help but laugh at how truly stupid people are regarding what they are told to worry about....

sometimes I wonder if this country was better off living in ignorance....

I won't be alive when this happens, but it would be fun to watch the genetically engineered folks enter the fray......then it would really be fun being the devil.....

(11-25-2014 12:00 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The sons of Liberty protested by dressing like Indians and destroying property.

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Superficially, both groups protested and committed what could be called a crime -- or in the case of Ferguson, tons of crimes. However, once you scratch the surface you'll see the two are different.

The Sons of Liberty were organized before the Tea Party and had been waging a nonviolent campaign of words for quite some time before and after the Tea Party. The SoL did not board the ships and steal the tea to use at home. The did not harm the businesses of their fellow citizens -- in fact, their actions were to protect those businesses and they conspired with men working for these companies to make sure they would not be harmed when this act transpired. Their act was reasoned and later defended in long articles describing the injustice of the Crown. And lastly, the SoL did not have a political means to affect change as they were not represented in Parliament.

The Ferguson group, by contrast, do not understand the reason why they are protesting in favor of Michael Brown. Those that have a minimal amount of knowledge make no sense in their irrational arguments and unreasonable comments. Many of these people indiscriminately harmed their fellow citizen and local businesses. Their acts were not planned with sense and reason to protect their fellow man, but to acquire things for themselves and satisfy a need to destroy stuff. And lastly, the Ferguson group has always had a political means to affect change.

So, when you get down to it, the two groups are not similar.

I think in both cases, once you break the law, you cease to be a protester.

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(11-25-2014 11:57 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  The thing is, young African Americans 100% believe that if they're pulled over, there's a chance they can get shot. I'm sure there's a 99.9% that they won't get shot, but something has to be done to completely ease those fears.

They could start by being taught that just because you're black doesn't mean cops hate you. They need to be taught that cops don't like criminals because it's criminals that are dangerous. They need to be taught that you have to abide by the rules of law no matter how poor you are, and they need to be taught that it's not the police or anyone elses fault that so many families are struggling.

When people can learn to place the blame on themselves instead of others, things will start to change. Because I can guarantee you that you won't find very many white cops that hate blacks simply for being black. People bring every bit of this on themselves and then blame someone else for their short comings. That's the main problem.

If we are going to equate the Ferguson protesters with revolutionaries then we immediately need to deploy the National Guard. Full battle rattle with weapons locked and loaded. Take some prisoners of war if possible, but deal with the insurrection the way insurrections have always been dealt with.

Storeowner Robbed By Mike Brown, Robbed Again Last Night

(11-25-2014 12:11 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  If we are going to equate the Ferguson protesters with revolutionaries then we immediately need to deploy the National Guard. Full battle rattle with weapons locked and loaded. Take some prisoners of war if possible, but deal with the insurrection the way insurrections have always been dealt with.

That might hurt a poor little sensitive feeling. Can't go doing all of that now can we!

(11-25-2014 12:10 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:57 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  The thing is, young African Americans 100% believe that if they're pulled over, there's a chance they can get shot. I'm sure there's a 99.9% that they won't get shot, but something has to be done to completely ease those fears.

They could start by being taught that just because you're black doesn't mean cops hate you. They need to be taught that cops don't like criminals because it's criminals that are dangerous. They need to be taught that you have to abide by the rules of law no matter how poor you are, and they need to be taught that it's not the police or anyone elses fault that so many families are struggling.

When people can learn to place the blame on themselves instead of others, things will start to change. Because I can guarantee you that you won't find very many white cops that hate blacks simply for being black. People bring every bit of this on themselves and then blame someone else for their short comings. That's the main problem.

I agree with this. I'd like see police holding assemblies in urban high schools to try to reach out. Heck, even having basketball or flag football tournaments could go a long way to rebuilding the relationship. Also, seeing more African American police officers could help the situation on a national scale.

Lib Rag Salon Calls America A “White Supremacist State” Over Ferguson Decision…

Speaks for America's leftists...They are truly deranged.

We need blacks to trust that cops aren't out to kill them and also cops need to trust that not all blacks are criminals.

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WaPo’s Eugene Robinson: Now Whites Can Now Shoot Blacks And “Worry About Consequences Later”…

If some deranged lunatic believed him, could Robinson be charged as an accessory to murder?

(11-25-2014 12:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  We need blacks to trust that cops aren't out to kill them and also cops need to trust that not all blacks are criminals.

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Now that we recognize that, how do we get from where we're at to the desired result?

(11-25-2014 12:16 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 12:10 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:57 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  The thing is, young African Americans 100% believe that if they're pulled over, there's a chance they can get shot. I'm sure there's a 99.9% that they won't get shot, but something has to be done to completely ease those fears.

They could start by being taught that just because you're black doesn't mean cops hate you. They need to be taught that cops don't like criminals because it's criminals that are dangerous. They need to be taught that you have to abide by the rules of law no matter how poor you are, and they need to be taught that it's not the police or anyone elses fault that so many families are struggling.

When people can learn to place the blame on themselves instead of others, things will start to change. Because I can guarantee you that you won't find very many white cops that hate blacks simply for being black. People bring every bit of this on themselves and then blame someone else for their short comings. That's the main problem.

I agree with this. I'd like see police holding assemblies in urban high schools to try to reach out. Heck, even having basketball or flag football tournaments could go a long way to rebuilding the relationship. Also, seeing more African American police officers could help the situation on a national scale.

I don't know about where you live but they do that already here and it doesn't make a bit of difference when culturally they have been told since birth to fear law enforcement and "snitches get stitches"

If there is ever going to be change it has to start with a cultural change within the black community.

(11-25-2014 12:19 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  WaPo’s Eugene Robinson: Now Whites Can Now Shoot Blacks And “Worry About Consequences Later”…

If some deranged lunatic believed him, could Robinson be charged as an accessory to murder?

he's a moron with an unrealistic agenda...

this came down this a.m. here.....I know this guy.....he's a schizophrenic genius I.Q....he wasn't always that way......and this happened in missippy...

whitey tries to shoot blackies in mexican restaurant...gets sentenced to 100 yrs

(11-25-2014 12:16 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 12:11 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  If we are going to equate the Ferguson protesters with revolutionaries then we immediately need to deploy the National Guard. Full battle rattle with weapons locked and loaded. Take some prisoners of war if possible, but deal with the insurrection the way insurrections have always been dealt with.

That might hurt a poor little sensitive feeling. Can't go doing all of that now can we!

You can't worry about feelings during a violent insurrection. You worry about feelings after you have eliminated the insurrectionists.

(11-25-2014 11:48 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  This entire situation is a shame. I don't understand how burning down businesses, that benefits the community, will solve anything. It leaves people out of work. Some of those people worked their entire lives to start a business just for it to vanish due to thugs. These business owners didn't do anything wrong.

The idiots on twitter needs to grow up too. Threatening to kill crackers while they're sleeping is the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard in my life. How exactly is killing somebody while they're asleep honorable? How exactly killing any white person going to bring justice to Brown, Martin or any other African American that didn't receive the justice that the crowd deemed necessary.

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I will argue that there needs to be a better understanding between police and African Americans. Personally I think that Wilson was in the right here; however, that doesn't change the fact that there's a tremendous feeling of feeling slighted within the African American community. There has to be some change that takes place between the community, church and police. Neither side is completely to blame here, and I'm talking on a national scale.

I agree with you. However, before Black people can go to White people with grievances, they must first work out their own problems.

Problem #1: The race baiters and hucksters and fake ministers have got to go. These people keep alive this idea of "great racism" to stay relevant to the people of these communities. The FACT is that this is not 1955 and the cops are not working with the KKK to lynch innocent black people.

Problem #2: Liberalism and political shills that support it must go. Ever since the death of MLK, the Democrat Party and the progressives have run large Black cities and progress in these places has come to a halt. Black people used to be strong in their belief in Christ and morals. Now the Black community is flooded with immoral behavior brought on by ideas of liberalism. The Black community used to have pride in work and people were beaten, falsely arrested, and killed just to get their children into an equal school. Now, people are trapped on government assistance and their dignity taken. The schools are still bad, though they now have crime and union policies that do not allow them to improve. And, since the Dems have been running these cities, there has been no prospect for good paying jobs and therefore no realization of the American dream. The political types and race hucksters blame the White GOP boogeyman, but the true culprit is the one telling them this.

Problem #3: The problem is not the cops arresting Blacks. THE PROBLEM STARTS WITH BLACKS COMMITTING CRIMES. If we are ever to be honest and start a dialogue, we must first be honest with the fact that too many Black people use their circumstances as an excuse to commit crime. Too many liberals reiterate these excuses. Black people had it a lot worse 70,100,150 years ago, but didn't just commit crimes left and right. It's as if people in the community have lost their moral and ethical compass. If you park a car and leave it running in a Black neighborhood, within minutes you'll have people fighting to steal it. That shouldn't happen!! People like my grandma didn't go through hell during civil rights to see the Black community end up like it is today. They didn't fight to get preferential treatment or equal outcomes...they fought for equal opportunity. They just wanted themselves and their children to have the same opportunity as Whites. We still have a lot of work to do, but people should demand that accountability and responsibility from the people they vote for over 90% of the time.

Moreover, when we cannot agree that a man who commits strong-arm robbery, then beats a cop and tries to take his gun, and later disobeys a lawful order and charges that cop but is shot, did the wrong thing and that the officer was acting in self-defense, how can we expect to have a honest conversation about race?

(11-25-2014 11:12 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 09:41 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Karma: #Ferguson Palestinian Agitator Bassem Masri Has His Smartphone Stolen By Thug





This is truly priceless. He was livestreaming the action when the thug struck and you can see the stream continues as the thug runs away with the phone.





‘Police agitator’, translation: someone who cares less about Bassem’s revolution and more about stealing Bassem’s phone…

I wonder if Bassem is considering the constitutionality of getting his property stolen as much as the police trying to clear the streets. I bet he is now. He's finding out that when you lay down with a dog, you get fleas.

Probably doesnt want to be labeled a "snitch".

(11-25-2014 12:20 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 12:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  We need blacks to trust that cops aren't out to kill them and also cops need to trust that not all blacks are criminals.

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Now that we recognize that, how do we get from where we're at to the desired result?

Diversity in law enforcement is a good start. It doesn't help that Ferguson 's police force was something like 95% white.

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People who commit crimes, or people who live in a culture where crime in rampant, don't like cops.

Likewise, cops don't like people who commit crimes or people who treat them like the enemy.

(11-25-2014 12:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 12:20 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 12:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  We need blacks to trust that cops aren't out to kill them and also cops need to trust that not all blacks are criminals.

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Now that we recognize that, how do we get from where we're at to the desired result?

Diversity in law enforcement is a good start. It doesn't help that Ferguson 's police force was something like 95% white.

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So now you want to select people for jobs based on their race?

It's turning in on itself.

(11-25-2014 12:29 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 12:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 12:20 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 12:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  We need blacks to trust that cops aren't out to kill them and also cops need to trust that not all blacks are criminals.

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Now that we recognize that, how do we get from where we're at to the desired result?

Diversity in law enforcement is a good start. It doesn't help that Ferguson 's police force was something like 95% white.

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So now you want to select people for jobs based on their race?

It's turning in on itself.

It doesn't hurt to have black cops policing black neighborhoods. Does it? I thought you wanted segregation?

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