(11-25-2014 11:25 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:17 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  You can't be a protester and looters at the same time. Once you loot or destroy, you become a criminal. Calling criminals protesters simply gives them an excuse to be lawless.

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What? Of course you can be both a protester and a looter, at the same time. The left loves to carve out the "protesters" and say they are peaceful and not committing the crime. The truth is that the very people protesting in these groups later go on to loot and riot. Some do not, but many do. Criminals can be protesters too. It's just that society doesn't listen to protesting by people that commit crimes. This is why the left tries very hard to create a false separation between the two.

Really? And you have proof of that of course.

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(11-25-2014 11:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:25 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:17 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  You can't be a protester and looters at the same time. Once you loot or destroy, you become a criminal. Calling criminals protesters simply gives them an excuse to be lawless.

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What? Of course you can be both a protester and a looter, at the same time. The left loves to carve out the "protesters" and say they are peaceful and not committing the crime. The truth is that the very people protesting in these groups later go on to loot and riot. Some do not, but many do. Criminals can be protesters too. It's just that society doesn't listen to protesting by people that commit crimes. This is why the left tries very hard to create a false separation between the two.

Really? And you have proof of that of course.

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When people holding signs saying "justice for Mike brown" and "hands up don't shoot" drop or handoff those signs to go into a store after business hours and come out with items in their hands, one comes to the conclusion that the protester is looting. I guess they could have paid for that stuff, even though the store was closed and the windows were smashed....but, common sense says otherwise.

(11-25-2014 11:34 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:25 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:17 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  You can't be a protester and looters at the same time. Once you loot or destroy, you become a criminal. Calling criminals protesters simply gives them an excuse to be lawless.

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What? Of course you can be both a protester and a looter, at the same time. The left loves to carve out the "protesters" and say they are peaceful and not committing the crime. The truth is that the very people protesting in these groups later go on to loot and riot. Some do not, but many do. Criminals can be protesters too. It's just that society doesn't listen to protesting by people that commit crimes. This is why the left tries very hard to create a false separation between the two.

Really? And you have proof of that of course.

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When people holding signs saying "justice for Mike brown" and "hands up don't shoot" drop or handoff those signs to go into a store after business hours and come out with items in their hands, one comes to the conclusion that the protester is looting. I guess they could have paid for that stuff, even though the store was closed and the windows were smashed....but, common sense says otherwise.

So in your eyes, they are no different than the Sons of Liberty?

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The riots were disappointingly weak.

(11-25-2014 11:36 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:34 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:25 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:17 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  You can't be a protester and looters at the same time. Once you loot or destroy, you become a criminal. Calling criminals protesters simply gives them an excuse to be lawless.

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What? Of course you can be both a protester and a looter, at the same time. The left loves to carve out the "protesters" and say they are peaceful and not committing the crime. The truth is that the very people protesting in these groups later go on to loot and riot. Some do not, but many do. Criminals can be protesters too. It's just that society doesn't listen to protesting by people that commit crimes. This is why the left tries very hard to create a false separation between the two.

Really? And you have proof of that of course.

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When people holding signs saying "justice for Mike brown" and "hands up don't shoot" drop or handoff those signs to go into a store after business hours and come out with items in their hands, one comes to the conclusion that the protester is looting. I guess they could have paid for that stuff, even though the store was closed and the windows were smashed....but, common sense says otherwise.

So in your eyes, they are no different than the Sons of Liberty?

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You need to identify who you mean by "Sons of Liberty" and the parallels you are trying to make. And, then I will answer your question regarding those specific parallels.

(11-25-2014 11:36 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The riots were disappointingly weak.

It's not a big city. The list of stores looted and burned is pretty long. And, the looters were not "massive". Ferguson will never be same again.

The sons of Liberty protested by dressing like Indians and destroying property.

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(11-25-2014 11:40 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:36 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The riots were disappointingly weak.

It's not a big city. The list of stores looted and burned is pretty long. And, the looters were not "massive". Ferguson will never be same again.

I was really hoping for people to loot the White House...

This entire situation is a shame. I don't understand how burning down businesses, that benefits the community, will solve anything. It leaves people out of work. Some of those people worked their entire lives to start a business just for it to vanish due to thugs. These business owners didn't do anything wrong.

The idiots on twitter needs to grow up too. Threatening to kill crackers while they're sleeping is the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard in my life. How exactly is killing somebody while they're asleep honorable? How exactly killing any white person going to bring justice to Brown, Martin or any other African American that didn't receive the justice that the crowd deemed necessary.

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I will argue that there needs to be a better understanding between police and African Americans. Personally I think that Wilson was in the right here; however, that doesn't change the fact that there's a tremendous feeling of feeling slighted within the African American community. There has to be some change that takes place between the community, church and police. Neither side is completely to blame here, and I'm talking on a national scale.

(11-25-2014 11:48 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  This entire situation is a shame. I don't understand how burning down businesses, that benefits the community, will solve anything. It leaves people out of work. Some of those people worked their entire lives to start a business just for it to vanish due to thugs. These business owners didn't do anything wrong.

The idiots on twitter needs to grow up too. Threatening to kill crackers while they're sleeping is the dumbest sh*t I've ever heard in my life. How exactly is killing somebody while they're asleep honorable? How exactly killing any white person going to bring justice to Brown, Martin or any other African American that didn't receive the justice that the crowd deemed necessary.

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I will argue that there needs to be a better understanding between police and African Americans. Personally I think that Wilson was in the right here; however, that doesn't change the fact that there's a tremendous feeling of feeling slighted within the African American community. There has to be some change that takes place between the community, church and police. Neither side is completely to blame here, and I'm talking on a national scale.

I agree.



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This is the kind of thing you have to deal with, the media, the looters, the race baiters. If that is what you have to deal with and you cannot be brutally honest about race in this country then you will do what most middle ground Americans do, move their kids out of ****** public schools, and leave neighborhoods to the thugs, parasites, and race hustlers. In the end they lose, not the people leaving them to their fate.

You just aren't allowed to be honest about race in this country.

"Riot" is the language of the unheard" MLK

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

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(11-25-2014 11:52 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This is the kind of thing you have to deal with, the media, the looters, the race baiters. If that is what you have to deal with and you cannot be brutally honest about race in this country then you will do what most middle ground Americans do, move their kids out of ****** public schools, and leave neighborhoods to the thugs, parasites, and race hustlers. In the end they lose, not the people leaving them to their fate.

You just aren't allowed to be honest about race in this country.

Sounds like self segregation

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(11-25-2014 11:53 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  "Riot" is the language of the unheard" MLK

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

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Who doesn't like booze and hookers? MLK

*** First post in my honest about race series ***

(11-25-2014 11:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:52 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This is the kind of thing you have to deal with, the media, the looters, the race baiters. If that is what you have to deal with and you cannot be brutally honest about race in this country then you will do what most middle ground Americans do, move their kids out of ****** public schools, and leave neighborhoods to the thugs, parasites, and race hustlers. In the end they lose, not the people leaving them to their fate.

You just aren't allowed to be honest about race in this country.

Sounds like self segregation

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I'm fine with that.

Why would I want to spend any effort helping people who don't want my help and who will gladly ruin my life if they get their overly sensitive feelings hurt if I speak truth to power?

(11-25-2014 11:52 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This is the kind of thing you have to deal with, the media, the looters, the race baiters. If that is what you have to deal with and you cannot be brutally honest about race in this country then you will do what most middle ground Americans do, move their kids out of ****** public schools, and leave neighborhoods to the thugs, parasites, and race hustlers. In the end they lose, not the people leaving them to their fate.

You just aren't allowed to be honest about race in this country.

The thing is, young African Americans 100% believe that if they're pulled over, there's a chance they can get shot. I'm sure there's a 99.9% that they won't get shot, but something has to be done to completely ease those fears.

(11-25-2014 11:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Sounds like self segregation

That happens within all groups. People tend to flock towards their own "kind" so to speak.

(11-25-2014 11:56 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:52 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This is the kind of thing you have to deal with, the media, the looters, the race baiters. If that is what you have to deal with and you cannot be brutally honest about race in this country then you will do what most middle ground Americans do, move their kids out of ****** public schools, and leave neighborhoods to the thugs, parasites, and race hustlers. In the end they lose, not the people leaving them to their fate.

You just aren't allowed to be honest about race in this country.

Sounds like self segregation

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I'm fine with that.

Why would I want to spend any effort helping people who don't want my help and who will gladly ruin my life if they get their overly sensitive feelings hurt if I speak truth to power?

I appreciate your honesty. Segregation isn't the answer however.

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(11-25-2014 11:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The sons of Liberty protested by dressing like Indians and destroying property.

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Superficially, both groups protested and committed what could be called a crime -- or in the case of Ferguson, tons of crimes. However, once you scratch the surface you'll see the two are different.

The Sons of Liberty were organized before the Tea Party and had been waging a nonviolent campaign of words for quite some time before and after the Tea Party. The SoL did not board the ships and steal the tea to use at home. The did not harm the businesses of their fellow citizens -- in fact, their actions were to protect those businesses and they conspired with men working for these companies to make sure they would not be harmed when this act transpired. Their act was reasoned and later defended in long articles describing the injustice of the Crown. And lastly, the SoL did not have a political means to affect change as they were not represented in Parliament.

The Ferguson group, by contrast, do not understand the reason why they are protesting in favor of Michael Brown. Those that have a minimal amount of knowledge make no sense in their irrational arguments and unreasonable comments. Many of these people indiscriminately harmed their fellow citizen and local businesses. Their acts were not planned with sense and reason to protect their fellow man, but to acquire things for themselves and satisfy a need to destroy stuff. And lastly, the Ferguson group has always had a political means to affect change.

So, when you get down to it, the two groups are not similar.

(11-25-2014 12:00 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:56 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-25-2014 11:52 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This is the kind of thing you have to deal with, the media, the looters, the race baiters. If that is what you have to deal with and you cannot be brutally honest about race in this country then you will do what most middle ground Americans do, move their kids out of ****** public schools, and leave neighborhoods to the thugs, parasites, and race hustlers. In the end they lose, not the people leaving them to their fate.

You just aren't allowed to be honest about race in this country.

Sounds like self segregation

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I'm fine with that.

Why would I want to spend any effort helping people who don't want my help and who will gladly ruin my life if they get their overly sensitive feelings hurt if I speak truth to power?

I appreciate your honesty. Segregation isn't the answer however.

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People are doing it by themselves.

Why would anybody want to be around a group of people like in Ferguson?

The point is the black community needs to come to grips with the fact nobody has to associate with the or help them. The more they do **** like this the more the rest of the country walks away from them. It's why you have ****** inner cities and failing schools.