(06-23-2014 11:25 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:23 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:21 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  A person that owns property has an obligation to vote towards what is correct and right. We have "skin in the game" so to speak. We contribute not take! We produce!

So everyone that owns property votes correctly and are producers, while people who don't own property vote incorrectly and don't produce. Interesting.

Not every... but a majority...

So you guys think 99% of those in Manhattan are not produces and vote incorrectly, and as a result they should not be able to vote. Got ya.

If a person volunteers to join the Armed Forces, they can drink on base, where permitted, just not in war zone.

(06-23-2014 11:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 09:08 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  That's why the voting age needs to be higher.

So send em to war at 18...but no drinking or voting? Typical conservative...

We have an all-volunteer military and the drinking age should be 18.

(06-23-2014 11:31 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:28 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Doc K,

Look at government housing and welfare and Medicaid personnel.... then tell me who the producers and who the takers are..

I'm a renter, and I have a job, pay for my own health insurance, pay my bills, pay taxes....and I should be penalized by those who don't? Because I don't own property, I'm not looking out for the best interests of the nation?

You guys are insane.

I got to agree with Doc on this. My job kinda prohibits me from being in one spot financially since my work takes me over the country, so it's easier to be a renter. So because I'm a renter due to the nature of my career, I shouldn't get a vote.

That's a little too far in my opinion.

Doc K, why do you rent and not own?

(06-23-2014 11:36 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 09:08 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  That's why the voting age needs to be higher.

So send em to war at 18...but no drinking or voting? Typical conservative...

We have an all-volunteer military and the drinking age should be 18.

So is drinking...point?

(06-23-2014 09:09 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 09:08 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  That's why the voting age needs to be higher.

. . . and the requirement that you own property be restored.


yeah, I said it.

Conservatives always want to restrict who can vote...nice attempt to cut out major cities since most renting comes from large urban areas.

(06-23-2014 11:37 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:36 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 09:08 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  That's why the voting age needs to be higher.

So send em to war at 18...but no drinking or voting? Typical conservative...

We have an all-volunteer military and the drinking age should be 18.

So is drinking...point?

You don't want to go to war, don't join the military. The armed forces aren't a physical fitness daycamp for folks that want the government to pay for their college educations.

(06-23-2014 11:36 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Doc K, why do you rent and not own?

Because I'm a year and a half out of school and saving up money in hopes to own in a few years. Also, because renting is flexible, and I don't want to be tied down at this point of my life.

(06-23-2014 11:39 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:37 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:36 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 09:08 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  That's why the voting age needs to be higher.

So send em to war at 18...but no drinking or voting? Typical conservative...

We have an all-volunteer military and the drinking age should be 18.

So is drinking...point?

You don't want to go to war, don't join the military. The armed forces aren't a physical fitness daycamp for folks that want the government to pay for their college educations.

So we didn't do a draft in WWII and Vietnam?

Are you saying we should abolish the draft?

Fair enough, I understand and was there at one time.

(06-23-2014 11:36 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Doc K, why do you rent and not own?

Why do you need to know?

Memphis, what is your stance on voter ID then? I believe I already know.

(06-23-2014 11:21 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  A person that owns property has an obligation to vote towards what is correct and right. We have "skin in the game" so to speak. We contribute not take! We produce!

I kinda take offense to that.

(06-23-2014 11:42 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:36 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Doc K, why do you rent and not own?

Why do you need to know?

Because he wants to take my vote away.

(06-23-2014 11:42 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Memphis, what is your stance on voter ID then? I believe I already know.

I don't necessarily disagree with it, but I think there should be exceptions for the elderly and infirmed.

(06-23-2014 11:45 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:42 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Memphis, what is your stance on voter ID then? I believe I already know.

I don't necessarily disagree with it, but I think there should be exceptions for the elderly and infirmed.

If they're elderly and infirmed. By saying infirmed that could open all kinds of doors.

(06-23-2014 11:41 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:39 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:37 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:36 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  So send em to war at 18...but no drinking or voting? Typical conservative...

We have an all-volunteer military and the drinking age should be 18.

So is drinking...point?

You don't want to go to war, don't join the military. The armed forces aren't a physical fitness daycamp for folks that want the government to pay for their college educations.

So we didn't do a draft in WWII and Vietnam?

Are you saying we should abolish the draft?

Well, if you couldn't draft folks to conduct a war, then that's a pretty effective way to eliminate expanded participation in unpopular wars. As a proponent of individual rights, I'm no fan of forced coercion.

(06-23-2014 09:08 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  That's why the voting age needs to be higher.

Bingo

(06-23-2014 11:21 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 10:20 AM)Smaug Wrote:  I think you're a blank slate, whose opinions begin forming with the first sensory input.

This...no one has a born in predisposition to any ideology.

(06-23-2014 11:42 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 11:21 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  A person that owns property has an obligation to vote towards what is correct and right. We have "skin in the game" so to speak. We contribute not take! We produce!

I kinda take offense to that.

That is going to happen at times