(01-21-2014 12:24 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 07:23 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(01-20-2014 06:58 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Socialism isn't inherently bad, just like Capitalism or Conservatism.

You're right, except it fails wherever it is tried as a replacement for capitalism. Face it, governments are crappy at correctly allocating the means of production and are just as crooked as governments of capitalist countries. However, it's bigger failing is ignoring the human nature of individuals being much more willing to work hard IF they keep the fruits of their labor.

Of course, in theory socialism works - practically - it doesn't.

Modern democratic socialism is far from a failure though, and that's still left of the most left democrats. The concern over socialism isn't nearly as compelling as people try to make it.

Name a socialist government that has held power without abusing its people for 230+ years.

(01-24-2014 08:57 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 08:36 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  The President should refrain from bringing up his race and guessing about how people "react" to it, regardless of how he's positioning it. It's needlessly polarizing.

Except I would argue that he wants everything to be polarizing. How else could it be that he has pushed polarizing from the beginning of his presidency right on through - obviously, he believes that polarizing serves his political interests - just not the country's.

What he was doing was an explicit attempt to depolarize the issue of race in regards to his support.

(01-24-2014 02:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 08:57 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 08:36 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  The President should refrain from bringing up his race and guessing about how people "react" to it, regardless of how he's positioning it. It's needlessly polarizing.

Except I would argue that he wants everything to be polarizing. How else could it be that he has pushed polarizing from the beginning of his presidency right on through - obviously, he believes that polarizing serves his political interests - just not the country's.

What he was doing was an explicit attempt to depolarize the issue of race in regards to his support.

How about, "Ya know, I don't believe my polling numbers are affected one way or the other by race". That would be pretty easy.

(01-24-2014 03:01 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 02:57 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 08:57 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 08:36 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  The President should refrain from bringing up his race and guessing about how people "react" to it, regardless of how he's positioning it. It's needlessly polarizing.

Except I would argue that he wants everything to be polarizing. How else could it be that he has pushed polarizing from the beginning of his presidency right on through - obviously, he believes that polarizing serves his political interests - just not the country's.

What he was doing was an explicit attempt to depolarize the issue of race in regards to his support.

How about, "Ya know, I don't believe my polling numbers are affected one way or the other by race". That would be pretty easy.

oh, so you mean its not enough that he admits it has no effect, he has to act like it doesn't exist too? He's calling out liberal morons too, you realize that right?