(10-23-2013 08:48 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(10-23-2013 08:44 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  My work brings in free flu shot clinics, free mammograms, free masseuses and their chairs, healthy eating seminars.... Etc. So, kind of healthcare. Albeit they don't actually provide it they bring in the providers.

Nothing is free. You paid for all of this through either your 1) premiums or 2) money being taken out of the company party fund.

We just got Nutri-bullets in the kitchens so we can make delicious smoothies. At $150 a pop, I figure there goes about 4 bottles of booze from the Christmas party....

I just got some fresh baked oatmeal raisin and chocolate chip cookies from the kitchen here at work. I'd say yours is more healthy.

Every time the government meddles in the private sector, the results are not pretty.

The feds need to just protect our borders and stay out of everything else. They're just inept.

(10-23-2013 09:27 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Every time the government meddles in the private sector, the results are not pretty.

The feds need to just protect our borders and stay out of everything else. They're just inept.

Yeah no doubt. I also wish the states could do as they wish...

(10-23-2013 10:05 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(10-23-2013 09:27 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Every time the government meddles in the private sector, the results are not pretty.

The feds need to just protect our borders and stay out of everything else. They're just inept.

Yeah no doubt. I also wish the states could do as they wish...

There are plenty of stupid lefters at the state and local levels.

(10-23-2013 10:17 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(10-23-2013 10:05 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(10-23-2013 09:27 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Every time the government meddles in the private sector, the results are not pretty.

The feds need to just protect our borders and stay out of everything else. They're just inept.

Yeah no doubt. I also wish the states could do as they wish...

There are plenty of stupid lefters at the state and local levels.

+100

I think local municipalities should have more leeway, but there are plenty of petty leftist tyrants at the local level. And they'll lie, cheat and steal as often as they can.

(10-23-2013 10:23 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(10-23-2013 10:17 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(10-23-2013 10:05 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(10-23-2013 09:27 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Every time the government meddles in the private sector, the results are not pretty.

The feds need to just protect our borders and stay out of everything else. They're just inept.

Yeah no doubt. I also wish the states could do as they wish...

There are plenty of stupid lefters at the state and local levels.

+100

I think local municipalities should have more leeway, but there are plenty of petty leftist tyrants at the local level. And they'll lie, cheat and steal as often as they can.

Yes I agree, that's why you have different states though... Give them leeway to a certain degree. Like not having to use obamaScare if they don't want to. Drug test for welfare, etc...

It is how we get Dirty Harry, Pelosi, Boxer, Jackson-Lee, Rangle, Frank and the list seems endless.....

oatmeal raisin is disgusting. Are they trying to poison you?

(10-22-2013 07:56 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  My point is that the left is actively trying to blur the line and make health insurance the equivalent of health care. Those opposed to Obamacare need to be particularly careful not to fall for the deception.

Rational Health Care = regular exercise and meditation like yoga, stretching daily, staying lean and slender, eating high-quality diet with little or no fast foods, few junk foods, few processed foods, using a 3-level Hamilton Beach steamer at least 4 nights a week at home to steam fresh and frozen vegetables and lean chicken and fish, taking few if any prescription medications, staying away from drugs and smoking anything, limited or no alcohol, taking few if any OTC drugs, lots of chicken noodle soup and oatmeal in winter, fresh fruits and berries and nuts year-round. Lots of bedrest and liquids when you get a cold or the flu each year to let your body recover naturally, no flu shots, Having a catastrophic Insurance policy for big diseases, having and Health Savings Account to bank all the money you'd throw away on premiums with most other policies.

Rationed Health Care = A government run law trying to let bureaucrats decide who will be treated for what, when, for how long, and at what cost. Limited "prisoner's dilemma" choices, no way out, political favors to favored and connected groups or classes of people. Also known as PPACA.