Tom,

Prayers to your family.

(09-16-2013 02:04 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 02:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  BIL still on lock-down at last report. He's a tough guy and should be fine, but I'm sure his wife and kids aren't enjoying this. He was also on the Iowa for the gun turret explosion in 1989.

Wow. What are the odds?

Still, tough ain't bullet-proof. I hope he stays okay.

By tough, I meant emotionally.

Thanks for the kind words.

(09-16-2013 02:21 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 02:16 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Dead Shooter - Arron Alexis 34 from Tx

Source?

(09-16-2013 02:19 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 02:16 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Dead Shooter - Arron Alexis 34 from Tx

That's one... What about the other?

One of the "missing" shooters has been identified and accounted for, and was not a suspect or shooter. Apparently was a military officer responding.

There's a good chance the final "missing" shooter will be in the same category.

Thanks. As far as the source, Fox News has live coverage on this story as it unfolds so that's probably where he's getting the name, I got the alert at 2:22pm CST..

FWIW, I've seen the name on NBC news as well.

And one more thing I wasn't even thinking about regarding my brother-in-law is that his son, who is also in the Navy but stationed in Japan, has a birthday today. Ugh!

Quote:D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray said investigators had not identified a motive for the shooting. There was no indication that the incident was an act of terrorism, he said.

Except for that whole, "shoot up a heavily-populated facility" thing.

Quote:Ft. Worth Arrest Record

On Saturday 09-04-10 at approximately 1849 hrs I, Officer M Medders 3835 working W237, was dispatched to an apt complex, Orion at Oak Hill Apts, at 2450 Oak Hill Rd in reference to a shots fired call. The details of the call stated "CP STS SHE HEARD A 'POP' & SAW SMOKE & DUST; NOW SEES THAT THERE IS A HOLE IN HER FLOOR & ANOTHER IN HER CEILING; BELIEVES SOMEONE JUST SHOT INTO HER APT; DID NOT SEE ANYTHING OR ANYONE; CP HAS MOVED AWAY FROM AREA WHERE HOLES ARE; CONTACT CP". Upon arrival I met with the witness who was inside her apt and visibly shaken up.

She told that she was sitting in a chair when she heard the loud pop and saw the dust. She then saw that their was a hole in her floor just a couple of feet from where she was sitting while shredding papers and a hole in the ceiling. She told me that she believed someone had shot a bullet through her apt. She then told me that no one from downstairs had come up to talk to her and she had not gone down. She also told me that her downstairs neighbor ARR (Alexis,Aaron) has called the police several times on her for being loud however the police always said they didn't hear anything and no action was taken. She said that several days ago Aaron confronted her in the parking lot about making too much noise. June told me that she is terrified of Aaron and feels that this was done intentionally. I then relocated to apt and attempted to make contact with Aaron 3 separate times by knocking on his door and I received no response.

Due to the fact that someone could be hurt I called FD for a possible forced entry however when FD arrived Aaron came outside on his own. I made contact with Aaron who informed me that he did have a gun and he said that he was cleaning it when it went off. He said that he was trying to clean his gun while cooking and that his hands were slippery. He told me that he began to take the gun apart when his hands slipped and pulled the trigger discharging a round into the ceiling. He said he was sitting on the floor facing toward the large couch in his living room. When asked why he didn't call police or go check on the resident above him, Aaron said that he didn't think it went all the way through since he couldn't see any light through the hole. In regards to the noise he said he thought that people would just think it was a firecracker. I then asked why he wouldn't answer the door when I knocked and he said that he thought it was just his upstairs neighbor and he didn't want to talk to her because she is always making noise. While inside the apt I looked at the gun which was taken apart at this time. A gun cleaning kit was located next to the gun and the gun was covered in oil.

After investigating the situation, Aaron was taken to 350 W. Belknap and booked. A report was generated.

(09-16-2013 03:41 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

Quote:D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray said investigators had not identified a motive for the shooting. There was no indication that the incident was an act of terrorism, he said.

Except for that whole, "shoot up a heavily-populated facility" thing.

Well these days it's only terrorism if the perpetrator yells Allah Ackbar and speaks Arabic

Alexis is former Navy PO3 separated from service a few years back.

Since the Residence of the Chief of Naval Operations is at the Washington Navy Yard it could be a case of wanting to settle some score with the Navy.

(09-16-2013 04:04 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 03:41 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

Quote:D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray said investigators had not identified a motive for the shooting. There was no indication that the incident was an act of terrorism, he said.

Except for that whole, "shoot up a heavily-populated facility" thing.

Well these days it's only terrorism if the perpetrator yells Allah Ackbar and speaks Arabic

What if they holler "Skandor Akabar?"

(09-16-2013 04:04 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 03:41 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

Quote:D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray said investigators had not identified a motive for the shooting. There was no indication that the incident was an act of terrorism, he said.

Except for that whole, "shoot up a heavily-populated facility" thing.

Well these days it's only terrorism if the perpetrator yells Allah Ackbar and speaks Arabic

Yeah, along with everything else, the language is getting hijacked.

(09-16-2013 01:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Thanks to those for the prayers and those with an ounce of decency. You others know who you are.

I don't pray, but I hope that your family comes out unscathed, at least physically.

Where did the assailant get the gun and ammo clips?

Suspected Navy Yard gunman was in Reserves at Fort Worth base | Dallasnews.com - News for Dallas, Texas - The Dallas Morning News

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-new...alexis.ece Wrote:Alexis’ former roommate described the man as an even-keeled Buddhist who never showed signs of aggression. But a former neighbor told police in 2010 that Alexis “terrified” her.

Alexis enlisted in the Navy in 2007 and left the service in 2011. He was at the Fleet Logistics Support Squadron in Fort Worth. That squadron is located at the Naval Air Station in Fort Worth.

He was a petty officer, 3rd class. He worked on the various electrical engineering systems of aviation equipment. He had no overseas or combat duty.

During his service, Alexis was awarded the National Defense Service Medal and Global War on Terrorism Service Medal.

Alexis’ former roommate said he owned a handgun and “can be tough,” but that he wasn’t a violent person. Oui Suthamtewakul said he met Alexis at a Buddhist temple and lived with him for three years in several different locations.
...

"We became best friends," he said. "He's like my big brother."

Alexis would help out at Suthamtewakul's Thai restaurant, Happy Bowl, on White Settlement Road in Fort Worth. He also became fluent in Thai from watching Thai dramas and talking to people. He also traveled to Thailand at one point.

Suthamtewakul got married a few months ago, and Alexis moved out. He said Alexis, who had been unemployed, got a job working for a Navy subcontractor. He was also in the Reserves.
...

Back in Fort Worth on Monday, Kevin McDaniel, 52, said the news made him "literally physically ill."

"He was such a nice guy," he said.

McDaniel, who owns a furniture store next to Happy Bowl, said the last time he saw Alexis was the day before he moved to Washington. Alexis tried to get him to buy his furniture, he said.

"He seemed like he was real happy and excited about what was going on," McDaniel said.

McDaniel said the shooting left him even more puzzled because he had conversations with Alexis about Islamic extremism and the Fort Hood shooting. He thought they both agreed it was a horrible tragedy, he said.

If this is not terrorism then they need to redefine terrorism.

I live about 2 blocks down M Street from the location of the shooting and have been in my house all day. Just left to go walk around and get a bite to eat and a beer. Despite what law enforcement is saying, things are returning to normal in the area.

There is no safety reason to shelter in place, there is no second shooter. There are military personnel that carry weapons in this urban area all the time and any alleged "second shooter" was probably part of the response.

The feel around the hood is sort of of surreal right now. M street is still closed. Many of my neighbors are shaken up because we know and are friends with NAVSEA employees.

I hope we can stop these random acts of violence.

Here I thought Buddhists were non-violent.....

This is not going to cause me to shudder in fear from Buddhists or worry about people that hang out eating Thai food. It's abhorrent and tragic, but if there's nothing more to this than some guy with a grudge, I'm not going to draw broad conclusions about it.

(09-16-2013 05:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Where did the assailant get the gun and ammo clips?

Who cares

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

Some reports of shooter allegedly having PTSD despite not being combat deployed.

Why does NRA demand that employers not have the right to keep random people from taking firearms onto their premises again? Why do we need no questions asked access to high capacity clips and assault weapons at any 'gun show'?

I'd like to say I'm surprised about this horrible act. But I'm not. Because the last dozen times this exact same thing has happened, no one has done anything to stop the problem, which is access to extremely deadly weapons by those that shouldn't have that access.