A white and black guy both wearing military style uniforms. One other dead. It probably is more domestic and I could see a flase flag. But won't know for a while.

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(09-16-2013 11:52 AM)No Bull Wrote:  I believe that at the end of the day their will only be one shooter. Witnesses may have seen the same shooter 2 times...or mistaken police for the shooter.

Channel 4 says they were able to catch one of the other shooters on camera with a gun outside the compound shooting someone.

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(09-16-2013 11:50 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:42 AM)hburg Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:40 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:29 AM)hburg Wrote:  If there were 3 shooters, sounds like a coordinated para military attack. Makes you wonder if Russia, Syria, or a domestic group made the attack.

that didn't take long

It may be far fetched. But the descriptions given of the "shooters" fit the bill.

What was their description? I wouldn't doubt for one second that it either involved foreigners, was done to take the attention off of current affairs, or if it was a move made to further try to control gun rights.

Or they could just be a couple of crazy bastards.

(09-16-2013 11:59 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:50 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:42 AM)hburg Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:40 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:29 AM)hburg Wrote:  If there were 3 shooters, sounds like a coordinated para military attack. Makes you wonder if Russia, Syria, or a domestic group made the attack.

that didn't take long

It may be far fetched. But the descriptions given of the "shooters" fit the bill.

What was their description? I wouldn't doubt for one second that it either involved foreigners, was done to take the attention off of current affairs, or if it was a move made to further try to control gun rights.

Or they could just be a couple of crazy bastards.

That's a very logical assumption too, yes.

(09-16-2013 12:06 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:59 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:50 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:42 AM)hburg Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:40 AM)Lush Wrote:  that didn't take long

It may be far fetched. But the descriptions given of the "shooters" fit the bill.

What was their description? I wouldn't doubt for one second that it either involved foreigners, was done to take the attention off of current affairs, or if it was a move made to further try to control gun rights.

Or they could just be a couple of crazy bastards.

That's a very logical assumption too, yes.

does it really matter who did it? all i know is people are dead

(09-16-2013 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  If you're the praying type, please remember by B-I-L who is in a building on lock-down next to the yard. He is a retired Navy veteran still doing work for the Navy. He is safe and sound, but naturally his wife and family are quite shaken. Thanks.

Done.

(09-16-2013 12:10 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 12:06 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:59 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:50 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:42 AM)hburg Wrote:  It may be far fetched. But the descriptions given of the "shooters" fit the bill.

What was their description? I wouldn't doubt for one second that it either involved foreigners, was done to take the attention off of current affairs, or if it was a move made to further try to control gun rights.

Or they could just be a couple of crazy bastards.

That's a very logical assumption too, yes.

does it really matter who did it? all i know is people are dead

Yes, it matters who did it. I would like to know.

(09-16-2013 11:31 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:29 AM)hburg Wrote:  If there were 3 shooters, sounds like a coordinated para military attack. Makes you wonder if Russia, Syria, or a domestic group made the attack.

Why would Russia do anything of the sort?



I do wonder if it's a convenient false flag incident to get the attention off the administrations failures in foreign policy.

*******.

Thanks to those for the prayers and those with an ounce of decency. You others know who you are.

I'm trying to get an update from my S-I-L and I'll pass along word as soon as I know something.

(09-16-2013 01:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Thanks to those for the prayers and those with an ounce of decency. You others know who you are.

I'm trying to get an update from my S-I-L and I'll pass along word as soon as I know something.

Debating on opinions is one thing, but standing with fellow Americans in a time of crisis is another. I hope for all the best, Tom.

Godspeed, Tom. Scary stuff.

Why are these sons of b*tches still running free? The body count is piling up!

(09-16-2013 11:25 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 11:19 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Shooter dead

Looks like the guy shot his way into the Yard at the gate at 8th and M.

What is the total for dead now? This sounds like another perfect story for gun control. Isn't D.C. a gun free zone?

It doesn't matter if DC had less gun control than Alabama, a military base is a gun free zone except for MPs. Especially one where it's majority civilian employees. Don't ever think the military is going to let civilians walk around armed on any of their bases.

BIL still on lock-down at last report. He's a tough guy and should be fine, but I'm sure his wife and kids aren't enjoying this. He was also on the Iowa for the gun turret explosion in 1989.

(09-16-2013 02:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  BIL still on lock-down at last report. He's a tough guy and should be fine, but I'm sure his wife and kids aren't enjoying this. He was also on the Iowa for the gun turret explosion in 1989.

Wow. What are the odds?

Still, tough ain't bullet-proof. I hope he stays okay.

Dead Shooter - Arron Alexis 34 from Tx

(09-16-2013 02:16 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Dead Shooter - Arron Alexis 34 from Tx

That's one... What about the other?

(09-16-2013 02:16 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Dead Shooter - Arron Alexis 34 from Tx

Source?

(09-16-2013 02:19 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-16-2013 02:16 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Dead Shooter - Arron Alexis 34 from Tx

That's one... What about the other?

One of the "missing" shooters has been identified and accounted for, and was not a suspect or shooter. Apparently was a military officer responding.

There's a good chance the final "missing" shooter will be in the same category.

Possible stolen identity card, and saying maybe only one shooter. Total Chaos.

This story didn't get much press

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/2...KI20130820

Investigation was supposed to be on-going, which in principle is great...don't give out misinformation. But, it was awfully quiet and little follow up...

Any chance that there is some connection?

(Speculation bad, but the NJ incident has been so hushed it gets me curious).