(09-13-2013 10:39 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote: (09-13-2013 09:21 AM)john01992 Wrote: its hard to call gtown a mid major because that program is funded very well and has a lot of resources
nova & sju are in a downward trend and remains to be seen if they can get out of it.
however the theory that BE teams are subpar to FB schools does hold some weight to it.
the last time a "small time" football school won the NC was
louisville in 86 (they were still FBS at the time and are now big time FB)
nova in 85 (almost went FBS in football)
gtown 84 (is now FCS in football)
louisville in 80
quette 77
utep 66 (is now FBS)
since 1990 only 7 non FBS schools made the FF
that is some pretty scary stats for the big east, as well as new mexico, memphis, uconn, cincy and any other non p5 schools with solid bb. and i think the gap is only widening with the influx of money thats hitting the p5
Nova and St. John'sare in a downward trend? Come on, John, pay attention.
As for NC, you missed a few:
1990 - UNLV
1999 - UConn
2004 - UConn
But seriously how many times have schools that were not multi-champion blue bloods not won a NC?
2003 - Syracusw
2002 - Maryland
2000 - Michigan
1997 - Arizona
1994 - Arkansas
That's only 5 in the last 20 years. I guess everyone better worry, not just the non-p5 schools.
UNLV was FBS since its inception
uconn turned FBS/BCS in 2000
i misses them but you cant say those are BB only schools.
and FYI there are 6 clear cut blue bloods (UK, ku, duke, unc, ucla, iu.) changing that definition to "multi championships" is a pretty dumb way to group schools. the non bluebloods who have won are
-florida
-michigan state
-uconn
-syracuse
-arizona
-arkansas
-michigan
-louisville
-maryland
whats makes the BE worry is that gtown, sju, & nova have solid history that is as good as those schools but havent been able to match their performance
looking at final fours since 1990 of non blue bloods power schools
-florida
-michigan state
-uconn
-syracuse
-arizona
-arkansas
-michigan
-louisville
-ohio state
-west virginia
-lsu
-illinois
-oklahoma state
-georgia tech
-texas
-oklahoma
-maryland
-wisconsin
-stanford
-minnesota
-mississippi state
-stanford
-villanova*
-georgetown*
non bcs/high major
-unlv
-utah
-memphis
-Cincinnati
non FBS/mid majors
umass**
whitcha state
butler
vcu
george mason
marquette
*nova/gtown were majors when they made a FF but are now mid majors
**umass was a mid major when they made a FF but is now a high major
-you can see my point that the mid majors have some cause for concern