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RE: syracuse gtown to keep rivalry
(09-13-2013 01:07 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:59 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:55 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:52 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:49 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Some guy named Hoya Suxa is your proof? A GTown hater is proof that we are mid-majors?

Troll on man...troll on.

I believe the phrase is Troll harder. And I will do my best, lol.

Seriously though why do you act like called mid-major is akin to kissing your sister? It implies nothing other than you not being a football school.

It has NOTHING to do with FOOTBALL!!! It's an insult to teams not considered the top level of BASKETBALL!!!

FB has their own insult. It used to be Non-AQ now it's Group of Five.

You don't even understand the terms you're throwing around.

It is what is. You want to see it as some sort of slap in the face so be it but that doesn't mean your definition is the only definition.

Wikipedia:

Mid-major is a term used in American Division I college sports, especially men's basketball, to refer to athletic conferences that are not among the major six conferences (the American, ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-12, and SEC, the programs of which are sometimes referred to as "high majors" by comparison). While many believe the term "mid-major" was originally coined by the sports media in order to distinguish between BCS and non-BCS conference teams, it was actually coined in 1977 (more than two decades before the development of the BCS) by Jack Kvancz, head coach of Catholic University's men's basketball team.[1] Indeed, such a distinction is not officially acknowledged by the National Collegiate Athletic Association, nor does the NCAA use the terms "major" and "mid-major" to differentiate between Division I athletic conferences.

When not being used to refer to all of the Division I non-BCS teams (aka "low-majors"), so-called mid-major (non-BCS) basketball programs generally belong to one of the following nine conferences. Note that some of these conferences, including the Mountain West, Conference USA, and the Atlantic 10, may be considered a high-major as opposed to a mid-major depending on whom one asks.[5][6][7][8][9][10]
Atlantic 10 Conference (A-10)
Big East Conference
Colonial Athletic Association (CAA)
Conference USA (C-USA)
Horizon League
Mid-American Conference (MAC)
Missouri Valley Conference (MVC)
Mountain West Conference (MWC)
West Coast Conference (WCC)
Western Athletic Conference (WAC)

But you understand you are saying that Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, Houston, SMU are "Majors" but that Georgetown, Villanova and Marquette are just "Mid-Majors"?

Also how is the Big East a Mid-Major when they are most likely going to be the third best conference this year?

Just swallow your pride and admit you're wrong. Stop grasping at straws looking for anything to prove you are right.

You posted a tweet from a Georgetown hater as proof. Give it up.

FYI in the future just so you know, Georgetown fans say Hoya SAXA not Hoya SUXA. You see the difference there right?

It has nothing to with the quality of basketball played and entirely to do with the level of football played. You want to get upset that is your right but your definition is not the only one. So to say you are right and I am wrong seems silly. Much like the level of your anger over this issue because I have not seen a single other BE fan on this forum ever get upset over the label midmajor.
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RE: syracuse gtown to keep rivalry
(09-13-2013 01:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:55 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:52 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:49 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:45 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  Hoya Suxa ‏@HoyaSuxa 11 Sep
RE: Syracuse-Georgetown contract -- Outside of Colgate, that has to be the longest deal the Orange have offered a mid-major.


Seems fans of the BE schools disagree. This is not the first time (nor I suspect the last time) I have seen BE fans claim the mid-major label.

It only seems to be BE fans here who get their panties in a wad over the label.

Some guy named Hoya Suxa is your proof? A GTown hater is proof that we are mid-majors?

Troll on man...troll on.

I believe the phrase is Troll harder. And I will do my best, lol.

Seriously though why do you act like called mid-major is akin to kissing your sister? It implies nothing other than you not being a football school.

It has NOTHING to do with FOOTBALL!!! It's an insult to teams not considered the top level of BASKETBALL!!!

FB has their own insult. It used to be Non-AQ now it's Group of Five.

You don't even understand the terms you're throwing around.

it has everything to do do with football. labels like these referee to the name recognition of a school.

you say it has nothing to do with football? ok then....how come nobody ever called gtown or st johns a mid major but new mexico, butler, xavier, quette, & unlv all got stuck with that label

Because they were in inferior BASKETBALL conferences!

Butler, Marquette and Xavier are now in the third or fourth best conference. That now makes them Majors.
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RE: syracuse gtown to keep rivalry
(09-13-2013 01:10 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 01:07 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:59 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:55 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:52 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  I believe the phrase is Troll harder. And I will do my best, lol.

Seriously though why do you act like called mid-major is akin to kissing your sister? It implies nothing other than you not being a football school.

It has NOTHING to do with FOOTBALL!!! It's an insult to teams not considered the top level of BASKETBALL!!!

FB has their own insult. It used to be Non-AQ now it's Group of Five.

You don't even understand the terms you're throwing around.

It is what is. You want to see it as some sort of slap in the face so be it but that doesn't mean your definition is the only definition.

Wikipedia:

Mid-major is a term used in American Division I college sports, especially men's basketball, to refer to athletic conferences that are not among the major six conferences (the American, ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-12, and SEC, the programs of which are sometimes referred to as "high majors" by comparison). While many believe the term "mid-major" was originally coined by the sports media in order to distinguish between BCS and non-BCS conference teams, it was actually coined in 1977 (more than two decades before the development of the BCS) by Jack Kvancz, head coach of Catholic University's men's basketball team.[1] Indeed, such a distinction is not officially acknowledged by the National Collegiate Athletic Association, nor does the NCAA use the terms "major" and "mid-major" to differentiate between Division I athletic conferences.

When not being used to refer to all of the Division I non-BCS teams (aka "low-majors"), so-called mid-major (non-BCS) basketball programs generally belong to one of the following nine conferences. Note that some of these conferences, including the Mountain West, Conference USA, and the Atlantic 10, may be considered a high-major as opposed to a mid-major depending on whom one asks.[5][6][7][8][9][10]
Atlantic 10 Conference (A-10)
Big East Conference
Colonial Athletic Association (CAA)
Conference USA (C-USA)
Horizon League
Mid-American Conference (MAC)
Missouri Valley Conference (MVC)
Mountain West Conference (MWC)
West Coast Conference (WCC)
Western Athletic Conference (WAC)

But you understand you are saying that Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, Houston, SMU are "Majors" but that Georgetown, Villanova and Marquette are just "Mid-Majors"?

Also how is the Big East a Mid-Major when they are most likely going to be the third best conference this year?

Just swallow your pride and admit you're wrong. Stop grasping at straws looking for anything to prove you are right.

You posted a tweet from a Georgetown hater as proof. Give it up.

FYI in the future just so you know, Georgetown fans say Hoya SAXA not Hoya SUXA. You see the difference there right?

It has nothing to with the quality of basketball played and entirely to do with the level of football played. You want to get upset that is your right but your definition is not the only one. So to say you are right and I am wrong seems silly. Much like the level of your anger over this issue because I have not seen a single other BE fan on this forum ever get upset over the label midmajor.

No, I am right and you are wrong. it's that simple. Just because you can't grasp the definitions you are using doesn't mean im being silly.

Here you go. The top conferences in BBall are considered major. The next level are considered mid-major, the next level is considered low majors.

Explain to me how the presence of Football is relevant to measuring the strength of a BBall league?

Oh and yes, every single Big East fan here takes exception to being called a Mid-Major. Your own fellow Cuse fans take exception to it.
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(09-13-2013 01:17 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 01:10 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 01:07 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:59 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:55 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  It has NOTHING to do with FOOTBALL!!! It's an insult to teams not considered the top level of BASKETBALL!!!

FB has their own insult. It used to be Non-AQ now it's Group of Five.

You don't even understand the terms you're throwing around.

It is what is. You want to see it as some sort of slap in the face so be it but that doesn't mean your definition is the only definition.

Wikipedia:

Mid-major is a term used in American Division I college sports, especially men's basketball, to refer to athletic conferences that are not among the major six conferences (the American, ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-12, and SEC, the programs of which are sometimes referred to as "high majors" by comparison). While many believe the term "mid-major" was originally coined by the sports media in order to distinguish between BCS and non-BCS conference teams, it was actually coined in 1977 (more than two decades before the development of the BCS) by Jack Kvancz, head coach of Catholic University's men's basketball team.[1] Indeed, such a distinction is not officially acknowledged by the National Collegiate Athletic Association, nor does the NCAA use the terms "major" and "mid-major" to differentiate between Division I athletic conferences.

When not being used to refer to all of the Division I non-BCS teams (aka "low-majors"), so-called mid-major (non-BCS) basketball programs generally belong to one of the following nine conferences. Note that some of these conferences, including the Mountain West, Conference USA, and the Atlantic 10, may be considered a high-major as opposed to a mid-major depending on whom one asks.[5][6][7][8][9][10]
Atlantic 10 Conference (A-10)
Big East Conference
Colonial Athletic Association (CAA)
Conference USA (C-USA)
Horizon League
Mid-American Conference (MAC)
Missouri Valley Conference (MVC)
Mountain West Conference (MWC)
West Coast Conference (WCC)
Western Athletic Conference (WAC)

But you understand you are saying that Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, Houston, SMU are "Majors" but that Georgetown, Villanova and Marquette are just "Mid-Majors"?

Also how is the Big East a Mid-Major when they are most likely going to be the third best conference this year?

Just swallow your pride and admit you're wrong. Stop grasping at straws looking for anything to prove you are right.

You posted a tweet from a Georgetown hater as proof. Give it up.

FYI in the future just so you know, Georgetown fans say Hoya SAXA not Hoya SUXA. You see the difference there right?

It has nothing to with the quality of basketball played and entirely to do with the level of football played. You want to get upset that is your right but your definition is not the only one. So to say you are right and I am wrong seems silly. Much like the level of your anger over this issue because I have not seen a single other BE fan on this forum ever get upset over the label midmajor.

No, I am right and you are wrong. it's that simple. Just because you can't grasp the definitions you are using doesn't mean im being silly.

Here you go. The top conferences in BBall are considered major. The next level are considered mid-major, the next level is considered low majors.

Explain to me how the presence of Football is relevant to measuring the strength of a BBall league?

Oh and yes, every single Big East fan here takes exception to being called a Mid-Major. Your own fellow Cuse fans take exception to it.

Mid-major status has nothing to do with the level of your hoops. Its has to do with the level you play football at.

Maybe if you attended a High Major school you would be able to grasp that! Now that is trolling! 8-)~
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RE: syracuse gtown to keep rivalry
(09-13-2013 01:19 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 01:17 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 01:10 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 01:07 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:59 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  It is what is. You want to see it as some sort of slap in the face so be it but that doesn't mean your definition is the only definition.

Wikipedia:

Mid-major is a term used in American Division I college sports, especially men's basketball, to refer to athletic conferences that are not among the major six conferences (the American, ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-12, and SEC, the programs of which are sometimes referred to as "high majors" by comparison). While many believe the term "mid-major" was originally coined by the sports media in order to distinguish between BCS and non-BCS conference teams, it was actually coined in 1977 (more than two decades before the development of the BCS) by Jack Kvancz, head coach of Catholic University's men's basketball team.[1] Indeed, such a distinction is not officially acknowledged by the National Collegiate Athletic Association, nor does the NCAA use the terms "major" and "mid-major" to differentiate between Division I athletic conferences.

When not being used to refer to all of the Division I non-BCS teams (aka "low-majors"), so-called mid-major (non-BCS) basketball programs generally belong to one of the following nine conferences. Note that some of these conferences, including the Mountain West, Conference USA, and the Atlantic 10, may be considered a high-major as opposed to a mid-major depending on whom one asks.[5][6][7][8][9][10]
Atlantic 10 Conference (A-10)
Big East Conference
Colonial Athletic Association (CAA)
Conference USA (C-USA)
Horizon League
Mid-American Conference (MAC)
Missouri Valley Conference (MVC)
Mountain West Conference (MWC)
West Coast Conference (WCC)
Western Athletic Conference (WAC)

But you understand you are saying that Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, Houston, SMU are "Majors" but that Georgetown, Villanova and Marquette are just "Mid-Majors"?

Also how is the Big East a Mid-Major when they are most likely going to be the third best conference this year?

Just swallow your pride and admit you're wrong. Stop grasping at straws looking for anything to prove you are right.

You posted a tweet from a Georgetown hater as proof. Give it up.

FYI in the future just so you know, Georgetown fans say Hoya SAXA not Hoya SUXA. You see the difference there right?

It has nothing to with the quality of basketball played and entirely to do with the level of football played. You want to get upset that is your right but your definition is not the only one. So to say you are right and I am wrong seems silly. Much like the level of your anger over this issue because I have not seen a single other BE fan on this forum ever get upset over the label midmajor.

No, I am right and you are wrong. it's that simple. Just because you can't grasp the definitions you are using doesn't mean im being silly.

Here you go. The top conferences in BBall are considered major. The next level are considered mid-major, the next level is considered low majors.

Explain to me how the presence of Football is relevant to measuring the strength of a BBall league?

Oh and yes, every single Big East fan here takes exception to being called a Mid-Major. Your own fellow Cuse fans take exception to it.

Mid-major status has nothing to do with the level of your hoops. Its has to do with the level you play football at.

Maybe if you attended a High Major school you would be able to grasp that! Now that is trolling! 8~)

Except mid-major is NEVER used in Football.

Also you're saying the Sun Belt is a Major conference?
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(09-13-2013 01:21 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 01:19 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 01:17 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 01:10 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 01:07 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  But you understand you are saying that Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, Houston, SMU are "Majors" but that Georgetown, Villanova and Marquette are just "Mid-Majors"?

Also how is the Big East a Mid-Major when they are most likely going to be the third best conference this year?

Just swallow your pride and admit you're wrong. Stop grasping at straws looking for anything to prove you are right.

You posted a tweet from a Georgetown hater as proof. Give it up.

FYI in the future just so you know, Georgetown fans say Hoya SAXA not Hoya SUXA. You see the difference there right?

It has nothing to with the quality of basketball played and entirely to do with the level of football played. You want to get upset that is your right but your definition is not the only one. So to say you are right and I am wrong seems silly. Much like the level of your anger over this issue because I have not seen a single other BE fan on this forum ever get upset over the label midmajor.

No, I am right and you are wrong. it's that simple. Just because you can't grasp the definitions you are using doesn't mean im being silly.

Here you go. The top conferences in BBall are considered major. The next level are considered mid-major, the next level is considered low majors.

Explain to me how the presence of Football is relevant to measuring the strength of a BBall league?

Oh and yes, every single Big East fan here takes exception to being called a Mid-Major. Your own fellow Cuse fans take exception to it.

Mid-major status has nothing to do with the level of your hoops. Its has to do with the level you play football at.

Maybe if you attended a High Major school you would be able to grasp that! Now that is trolling! 8~)

Except mid-major is NEVER used in Football.

Also you're saying the Sun Belt is a Major conference?

We are going to have to disagree. With you being from NJ and me being a native New Yorker neither is going to admit that we are not 100% correct and that the other guy might have a point.

So we will leave it at that.
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Right now at least, the level of the football program hasn't meant much in basketball. You still can be a non football school/FCS school and make the final 4. See Butler, VCU, Marquette, Wichita St, George Mason, Villanova, Georgetown to just name a few in recent years.

It will be interesting to watch, when the football playoff money starts rolling in if that doesn't change the equation somewhat.
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(09-13-2013 01:31 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Right now at least, the level of the football program hasn't meant much in basketball. You still can be a non football school/FCS school and make the final 4. See Butler, VCU, Marquette, Wichita St, George Mason, Villanova, Georgetown to just name a few in recent years.

It will be interesting to watch, when the football playoff money starts rolling in if that doesn't change the equation somewhat.

Most of that money will be pumped back into FB to keep up with the Joneses.

Bama, USC, OSU, Texas and FSU will not be using much of that money on BBall.
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For FSU and to a lesser extent Texas maybe not- but the others- they are going to be getting so much TV money(30+million) that they could take 20% of the TV money and use it for hoops- and that's over 6 million dollars. That's 2 million more than the Big East schools get.
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It won't be the same. No longer competing for a title will dampen all spirts. It will be like kissing your sister. Won't matter much. Besides, as soon as Boeheim retires (any day now), the program will change quickly.
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(09-13-2013 01:50 PM)stever20 Wrote:  For FSU and to a lesser extent Texas maybe not- but the others- they are going to be getting so much TV money(30+million) that they could take 20% of the TV money and use it for hoops- and that's over 6 million dollars. That's 2 million more than the Big East schools get.

They already have those advantages, though. They're just not choosing to allocate more money to men's basketball at this time.

You can subtract football spending out of the football powers' athletic dept budgets, and the non-football spending is already a lot more than the total athletic dept spending at a Big East school.

One example, from http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx

2011-2012 data

USC
Athletic dept spending: $84,149,146
Football spending: $23,123,733
Non-football spending: $61,025,413

Georgetown
Athletic dept spending: $33,536,264

The difference is that G-town chooses to offer fewer varsity sports and spend as much money as possible on men's hoops -- Georgetown spends about $10 million a year on men's hoops, compared to about $5 million a year at USC.
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the thing though is, other schools are goign to be seeing their money coming in go up so dramatically- we're talking like for USC- they were making what about 5-6 mil in the Pac 10 to now where they're making 20+ million a year. Then add in the extra money for the football playoff- that's probably close to an extra 5 million. So, They're going to be making conservatively 20 million more per year.
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(09-13-2013 02:28 PM)stever20 Wrote:  the thing though is, other schools are goign to be seeing their money coming in go up so dramatically- we're talking like for USC- they were making what about 5-6 mil in the Pac 10 to now where they're making 20+ million a year. Then add in the extra money for the football playoff- that's probably close to an extra 5 million. So, They're going to be making conservatively 20 million more per year.

And they're going to be pouring $100 million or more into fixing up the L.A. Coliseum.

I suspect that many other schools are going to use most if not all of their additional TV money on capital expenditures like facilities (or effectively using the money that way by using TV money on annual operating expenses and re-directing donor money to facilities). Just in the Pac-12, Cal, Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Arizona, and Colorado are probably going to do that, in addition to USC.
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You may be right Wedge, but even with that list- there's still like 5 schools in the Pac 12 that woudln't. And there would be enough schools that don't that will make things much tougher on the bb only schools.
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(09-13-2013 02:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  You may be right Wedge, but even with that list- there's still like 5 schools in the Pac 12 that woudln't. And there would be enough schools that don't that will make things much tougher on the bb only schools.

Yeah, the schools that are already basketball powers are most likely going to use some of the new TV money to increase basketball spending. And a few others. Texas might make a basketball push when they hire their new AD and new basketball coach, though they already have an essentially unlimited budget, they just need to have the right people in charge.
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(09-13-2013 01:10 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 01:07 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:59 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:55 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 12:52 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  I believe the phrase is Troll harder. And I will do my best, lol.

Seriously though why do you act like called mid-major is akin to kissing your sister? It implies nothing other than you not being a football school.

It has NOTHING to do with FOOTBALL!!! It's an insult to teams not considered the top level of BASKETBALL!!!

FB has their own insult. It used to be Non-AQ now it's Group of Five.

You don't even understand the terms you're throwing around.

It is what is. You want to see it as some sort of slap in the face so be it but that doesn't mean your definition is the only definition.

Wikipedia:

Mid-major is a term used in American Division I college sports, especially men's basketball, to refer to athletic conferences that are not among the major six conferences (the American, ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-12, and SEC, the programs of which are sometimes referred to as "high majors" by comparison). While many believe the term "mid-major" was originally coined by the sports media in order to distinguish between BCS and non-BCS conference teams, it was actually coined in 1977 (more than two decades before the development of the BCS) by Jack Kvancz, head coach of Catholic University's men's basketball team.[1] Indeed, such a distinction is not officially acknowledged by the National Collegiate Athletic Association, nor does the NCAA use the terms "major" and "mid-major" to differentiate between Division I athletic conferences.

When not being used to refer to all of the Division I non-BCS teams (aka "low-majors"), so-called mid-major (non-BCS) basketball programs generally belong to one of the following nine conferences. Note that some of these conferences, including the Mountain West, Conference USA, and the Atlantic 10, may be considered a high-major as opposed to a mid-major depending on whom one asks.[5][6][7][8][9][10]
Atlantic 10 Conference (A-10)
Big East Conference
Colonial Athletic Association (CAA)
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Mid-American Conference (MAC)
Missouri Valley Conference (MVC)
Mountain West Conference (MWC)
West Coast Conference (WCC)
Western Athletic Conference (WAC)

But you understand you are saying that Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, Houston, SMU are "Majors" but that Georgetown, Villanova and Marquette are just "Mid-Majors"?

Also how is the Big East a Mid-Major when they are most likely going to be the third best conference this year?

Just swallow your pride and admit you're wrong. Stop grasping at straws looking for anything to prove you are right.

You posted a tweet from a Georgetown hater as proof. Give it up.

FYI in the future just so you know, Georgetown fans say Hoya SAXA not Hoya SUXA. You see the difference there right?

It has nothing to with the quality of basketball played and entirely to do with the level of football played. You want to get upset that is your right but your definition is not the only one. So to say you are right and I am wrong seems silly. Much like the level of your anger over this issue because I have not seen a single other BE fan on this forum ever get upset over the label midmajor.

Actually the term as originally invented by Jack Kvancz, a basketball coach, and had nothing to do with football. it had everything to do with the If football fans want to commandeer the term so they can feel superior about the importance of football, be my guest.
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RE: syracuse gtown to keep rivalry
I can't believe these threads get derailed by labels like mid major.
Good to hear that Cuse is maintaining games with former Big East rivals, it makes sense.
I am inclined to tune it and watch.
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RE: syracuse gtown to keep rivalry
(09-13-2013 07:01 AM)john01992 Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...ll-rivalry

im really happy, a few months ago it looked like this series was toast. now we have retained gtown along with nova & sju.

this allows louisville & cuse to each have their major ooc rival and focus on each other for an in conference rivalry.

i think this puts to rest all the "syracuse doesnt play a tough ooc" comments

As a Hoyas fan, this is phenomenal news. Can't wait for them to iron the deal out. 02-13-banana
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RE: syracuse gtown to keep rivalry
(09-13-2013 07:01 AM)john01992 Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...ll-rivalry

im really happy, a few months ago it looked like this series was toast. now we have retained gtown along with nova & sju.

this allows louisville & cuse to each have their major ooc rival and focus on each other for an in conference rivalry.

i think this puts to rest all the "syracuse doesnt play a tough ooc" comments

*SU basketball has a sick setup. We get regular games against STJ (good), Nova (great), Georgetown (fantastic), Duke (fantastic), UNC (fantastic), UL (great), BC (great), Pitt (great), B1G schools (ACC-B1G challenge) (good), ND (good), GT (good <--Atl has talent), and WF (can be good) . That gives us a number of big games against top tier talent and games in Philly, Boston, DC, NYC, Atl, NC, KY, and the Midwest (via the ACC_B1G challenge). I don't think that you could ask for a better lineup in terms of recruiting exposure and fan excitement.

I would really like to play UCONN, but I our schedule is crowded and I can live without it. Anyway, I would imagine this hurts WAY worse for them than it does us. Being in the northeast and playing teams in the south/southwest is hard, especially if neither BC, nor SU are on your schedule for the foreseeable future.

*Our lax schedules are always sick and that hasn't changed. We have UNC, Duke, UVA, and ND in-conference and regular OOC games against teams like Cornell, Army, JHU, Princeton, and Denver.

*I can even live with our football. I'm OK with playing either about 2 B1G teams a year and 2 weak OOC schools, or 1 B1G team, ND, and 2 weak OOC schools, plus an ACC schedule featuring Pitt, BC, FSU, UL, and Clemson every year, as well as a NC school, and an ACC coastal school (33% NC, 33% Fla/Georgia, and 33% Virginia).

*All in all, I am crazy pumped for our athletic dept. and LOVE being in the ACC!
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RE: syracuse gtown to keep rivalry
so lemme get this straight, big east homers are totally fine with declaring the g5 schools (minus the american), the a-10 horizon etc. as mid majors......

but totally throw a hissy fit when they are included in that group.
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