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(09-03-2013 04:36 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Happens all the time in baseball. Seen in in football. If you go in knowing both will play you man up and play until you are told to come out. I have no issues with playing two guys. It's just the timing and that is what he needs to figure out. McGee made it clear that either guy could start and there is not a dime's difference between the two. He may be exaggerating but that is what he said. That and they are good friends, I think fans make a bigger issue of it than players do to be honest.

Quite honestly If I would have been on the sideline and just saw everything unraveling as it did and just watched my qb nearly throw three picks in two drives I would have made the switch after AB throws it to the guys hands. We were damn lucky the situation was not much worse.

Agreed, the timing was just bad. Don't get both players hopes up to play. Of course you tell them to be ready as if they are the starter, but saying both will see playing time isn't right. It wasn't necessary for JP to come in when he did. It may have been necessary to come in when he didn't. its confusing to discuss and hard to remember we have a 2nd year coach. If it takes coach much longer to settle on a starting qb when its obvious, it may be another long season.

Sometimes you play two QBs because you consider them essentially equal, and you want them both to get game time experience against quality opposition. Listening to the descriptions of the game in the 4th quarter and after reading what Attalla just wrote, it is probable that Coach McGee erred in not playing Perry early in the 4th quarter when AB seemed to be getting overwhelmed.

Had AB sat out a series or two and been counseled by the QB coach pointing out what Troy was doing on defense, he might have come back and been more effective late. What if Perry had come in and gotten a couple of TDs? We will never know what he might have done if given the chance.

(09-03-2013 05:10 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Sometimes you play two QBs because you consider them essentially equal, and you want them both to get game time experience against quality opposition. Listening to the descriptions of the game in the 4th quarter and after reading what Attalla just wrote, it is probable that Coach McGee erred in not playing Perry early in the 4th quarter when AB seemed to be getting overwhelmed.

Had AB sat out a series or two and been counseled by the QB coach pointing out what Troy was doing on defense, he might have come back and been more effective late. What if Perry had come in and gotten a couple of TDs? We will never know what he might have done if given the chance.

That's one what if?
-What if you never took AB out of the game.
would the momentum stay with us or would we have turned the ball over and lost the lead

-What if Jp started the game?
would we have hung in as well as we did or would we have won?

-What if we didn't have an onside kick?
Would they still have scored or would our defense have faired better with a longer field?

-What if we hit the couple of field goals?
What ifs? There's plenty of them

I only question the onside kick and the qb change when neither needed to happen.

How much is UAT paying McGee to come up with these bright ideas? I wanted to see JP play, but not after the way AB started the game. JP may have looked better if he started the game. Then AB comes in and screws up the offensive flow. That's why a two QB system does not work most of the time.

Sounds like learning how to win needs to start at the top.

(09-03-2013 05:10 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Sometimes you play two QBs because you consider them essentially equal, and you want them both to get game time experience against quality opposition. Listening to the descriptions of the game in the 4th quarter and after reading what Attalla just wrote, it is probable that Coach McGee erred in not playing Perry early in the 4th quarter when AB seemed to be getting overwhelmed.

Had AB sat out a series or two and been counseled by the QB coach pointing out what Troy was doing on defense, he might have come back and been more effective late. What if Perry had come in and gotten a couple of TDs? We will never know what he might have done if given the chance.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt could fly?

(09-03-2013 06:00 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  How much is UAT paying McGee to come up with these bright ideas? I wanted to see JP play, but not after the way AB started the game. JP may have looked better if he started the game. Then AB comes in and screws up the offensive flow. That's why a two QB system does not work most of the time.

Sounds like learning how to win needs to start at the top.

+1

This two QB system sucks and AB should play the whole game he's the reason the offense runs well since passing yards are the only offensive stat we are top 20 in.

(09-03-2013 06:18 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  

(09-03-2013 06:00 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  How much is UAT paying McGee to come up with these bright ideas? I wanted to see JP play, but not after the way AB started the game. JP may have looked better if he started the game. Then AB comes in and screws up the offensive flow. That's why a two QB system does not work most of the time.

Sounds like learning how to win needs to start at the top.

+1

This two QB system sucks and AB should play the whole game he's the reason the offense runs well since passing yards are the only offensive stat we are top 20 in.

This.

I think we need a 4 quarterback system. One for each down.

We've recruited enough of them

I believe if you have two quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks. Pick a lane. I like JP, but Brown was on fire when he came out.

Well he'll have to play both. Probably out of necessity. I hope not but LSU is the real deal on defense. McGee better plan to protect whoever starts at QB or they might not starting for long.

We should not have switched QB's when we did. Brown will struggle at some point. Give JP a shot then. Mitch and I were right on top of the sideline. Two of Perry's miss throws were because of WR's running the wrong route. McGee and other coaches scolded them not Perry. It was unfair to Perry and Brown to switch when Brown was that hot. Brown lost his rhythm and Perry was in no win situation.

We should let the coach coach the team

(09-03-2013 09:09 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  We should let the coach coach the team

Sure, dude. How's about that Liverpool squad, eh? Top of the EPL board for first time in a while.

What are your thoughts on Syria?

It's BlazerTalk and second-guessing your coach is somewhere in the Constitution. Look it up.

(09-03-2013 06:18 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  

(09-03-2013 06:00 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  How much is UAT paying McGee to come up with these bright ideas? I wanted to see JP play, but not after the way AB started the game. JP may have looked better if he started the game. Then AB comes in and screws up the offensive flow. That's why a two QB system does not work most of the time.

Sounds like learning how to win needs to start at the top.

+1

This two QB system sucks and AB should play the whole game he's the reason the offense runs well since passing yards are the only offensive stat we are top 20 in.

Yepppppp

(09-03-2013 04:20 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Troy dropped three AB interceptions in the 4th quarter.

Make it four if you count the play where Brown ridiculously underthrew his receiver, but the DB on him didn't know where the ball was, so he freaked out and clotheslined the receiver anyway to prevent a touchdown. Pass interference was the result, but that ball should have been picked off.

I liked having two QBs, but Austin won me over in the Troy game. He's legit now. I still would like to see JP play some though, and not just in mopup duty. McGee's doing it right.

(09-03-2013 09:05 PM)stc Wrote:  It was unfair to Perry and Brown to switch when Brown was that hot. Brown lost his rhythm and Perry was in no win situation.

Brown lost his rhythm? I thought he came back in and played fine until the fourth quarter.

(09-03-2013 06:42 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I believe if you have two quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks. Pick a lane. I like JP, but Brown was on fire when he came out.

so... I've said this all summer and basically had nobody agree with me. Now, I've at least got one.

(09-03-2013 10:27 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(09-03-2013 06:42 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I believe if you have two quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks. Pick a lane. I like JP, but Brown was on fire when he came out.

so... I've said this all summer and basically had nobody agree with me. Now, I've at least got one.

People say the two quarterbacks/ no quarterback thing all the time. In our situation, I disagree. They're pretty much equal, and I think being able to rest a guy and coach him while he's watching the other play a series is an advantage.

I'm sure McGee has heard the two quarterbacks/ no quarterback adage before, and he obviously doesn't put much stock in it. Given that he was the starting QB at Arizona and Oklahoma, AND coached QBs before coming here, I trust his judgement.

(09-03-2013 09:50 PM)thebernreuter Wrote:  

(09-03-2013 09:05 PM)stc Wrote:  It was unfair to Perry and Brown to switch when Brown was that hot. Brown lost his rhythm and Perry was in no win situation.

Brown lost his rhythm? I thought he came back in and played fine until the fourth quarter.

Playing fine and being reshot are two different things. Brown lead two TD drives and got benched. His first drive back in, we punted