(08-16-2013 08:58 AM)jh Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 06:47 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  I don't know why this is even a thread. There is no such thing as gay marriage. Just because the government recognizes it for legal reasons doesn't make it so.

You are right, there is no such thing as gay marriage. There's just marriage. Between gays.

No there isn't. Take it up with God. I'm out, this is pointless.

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

(08-16-2013 09:38 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 08:58 AM)jh Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 06:47 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  I don't know why this is even a thread. There is no such thing as gay marriage. Just because the government recognizes it for legal reasons doesn't make it so.

You are right, there is no such thing as gay marriage. There's just marriage. Between gays.

No there isn't. Take it up with God. I'm out, this is pointless.

You send out the invitations, I'll participate in the debate.

(08-15-2013 10:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 07:43 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 06:34 PM)Smaug Wrote:  What the hell is the difference between a civil union and a marriage?

If they're the same damn thing, then why two terms?

Marriage is a religious sacrament. There already is gay marriage in some faux churches. Civil Unions are just that... civil unions.

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The government does not agree...and they set the laws...not you, not the church.

Bingo.

Somehow this country doesn't seem to understand what religious freedom is anymore. It seems that a lot of people think you have a right to religious freedom as long as your religion is Christianity.

Whether you think it is weird, gross, right, wrong, etc. gay marriage will not have any effect on you. I truly do not get why so many people care about this subject. We have many bigger fish to fry, and if two men or two women want to get married, who the hell cares? If they are already living together and essentially acting like a married couple, how does getting married change anything?

(08-15-2013 07:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 01:56 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 01:51 PM)john01992 Wrote:  conservatives need to take their own advice......

conservatives say gays should just deal with the current status quo........

well I say conservatives should just deal with the changing status quo and focus on their own marriage

Look at how outraged you are are of the sudden John. Only when Barrack Obama took office did gay rights become such a life or death issue for you. Never mind they have more marital rights then ever before.

gay rights have been an issue for me long before obama was elected

you do realize i have a family member whose openly gay right?

#prick

I have a gay uncle, who f*cking cares? Let your brother remain gay, that's his business. Let him enter into a civil union with his BF, that's his business. Let him fight for his benefits and protection. Not to go from CU's to a traditional marriage.

I've said it before, that;s the only argument. The homos want all the same benefits, but are fighting to call it marriage. That's where the line is drawn. If they wanted their extras and didn't want to be f*ck bag whiny ******* about it then they wouldn't shoot for it to be called a marriage. They would fight for the law to be changed on what the receive under a civil union. Then both sides would be happy. Truth is, they don't want opposers to be happy, they want to be heard and throw a hissy fit.

(08-15-2013 08:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 07:45 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 07:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 01:56 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 01:51 PM)john01992 Wrote:  conservatives need to take their own advice......

conservatives say gays should just deal with the current status quo........

well I say conservatives should just deal with the changing status quo and focus on their own marriage

Look at how outraged you are are of the sudden John. Only when Barrack Obama took office did gay rights become such a life or death issue for you. Never mind they have more marital rights then ever before.

gay rights have been an issue for me long before obama was elected

you do realize i have a family member whose openly gay right?

#prick

So do I... and just because I love him doesn't mean I'll endorse or recognize his relationships.

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thats not the point. the point i was making to dixie was dont tell me ive only cared about the issue until recently.

Say what you want... I call bullsh*t and bet you didn't think twice about it before Massachusettes passed their faux bill to allow it...

hashtags are for idiots and chicks.

(08-15-2013 11:52 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 11:10 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:34 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:22 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 08:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  thats not the point. the point i was making to dixie was dont tell me ive only cared about the issue until recently.

Obama has made this issue red hot and it is why so many people are now obsessed. He's not trying make the world friendlier to gays. The gay issue is just part of his cultural Marxism.

you know what made this issue hot....people coming to their senses that being gay doesnt make you less of a person......

its a chain reaction, once it starts growing into a national issue more & more people jump on board and its like a snowball rolling down a hill. it just gets bigger and bigger.

during bush's first 4 years public opinion stayed the same
during bush's second 4 years public opinion rose 6%
during the next 6 years (obama's tenure) it rose 10% so you tell me........

where did this trend start?

Yes, because being gay didn't come into people's consciousness until Obama's second term. It started with Obama. However, it's not necessarily changing minds on some kind of rapid fire basis like you are portraying. Polls can be made to say anything when there is an agenda. I actually had more support for gay marriage until I started seeing how many in the gay community have forced their wants on the rest of us.







I wonder how the older black community, who remembers the Civil Rights struggle feel about these over-privileged baby boomers comparing their situation to the Civil Rights struggle.

oh funny....the polls are wrong.....
where did i hear that before?

its not like a bunch of states have legalized it in the last few years.....oh wait

oh and fyi civil rights vets dont feel any different in the way todays struggle is compared to theirs, just like how holocaust survivors feel towards the civil right movement. you have this insane notion that people who were the victims of hate like it when it happens to other people. anyone whose been a victim of hate is a proponent of PROGRESS and you need to understand that

13 states altogether... OMG WE'RE FINISHED! And a whopping 58% support gay marriage, but that precisely accurate stat came from the 10,001 people who were polled in a blue state... I'm surprised it wasn't much higher than 58%.

Compare those numbers to 20 years ago.

(08-16-2013 10:06 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 07:43 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 06:34 PM)Smaug Wrote:  What the hell is the difference between a civil union and a marriage?

If they're the same damn thing, then why two terms?

Marriage is a religious sacrament. There already is gay marriage in some faux churches. Civil Unions are just that... civil unions.

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The government does not agree...and they set the laws...not you, not the church.

Bingo.

Somehow this country doesn't seem to understand what religious freedom is anymore. It seems that a lot of people think you have a right to religious freedom as long as your religion is Christianity.

Whether you think it is weird, gross, right, wrong, etc. gay marriage will not have any effect on you. I truly do not get why so many people care about this subject. We have many bigger fish to fry, and if two men or two women want to get married, who the hell cares? If they are already living together and essentially acting like a married couple, how does getting married change anything?

Uh, the religious book states that no man shall ever lay with another man... You're right about civil a union not having any effect on me and had the homos and lesbos had just STFU and fought silently, then maybe those who oppose their desire to change the term of their civil union then none of this would be news. But no, they just had to be loud mouth crybabies.

Also, your "bingo" is way off. If a church doesn't want to marry a couple, they don't have to. There are lots of churches that won't even marry a couple if the female is pregnant at the time.

(08-16-2013 10:41 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Compare those numbers to 20 years ago.

You mean back when gays were still in the closet?


I blame reality TV.

(08-16-2013 10:46 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Uh, the religious book states that no man shall ever lay with another man...

So then lesbians are ok, right?

Quote:You're right about civil a union not having any effect on me and had the homos and lesbos had just STFU and fought silently, then maybe those who oppose their desire to change the term of their civil union then none of this would be news. But no, they just had to be loud mouth crybabies.

What does this even mean? Gays had a hard enough time gaining acceptance without having to mime everything.

Quote:Also, your "bingo" is way off. If a church doesn't want to marry a couple, they don't have to. There are lots of churches that won't even marry a couple if the female is pregnant at the time.

And yet if that woman finds another church, or a justice of the peace, or countless other options, she can still be married. Just like with the gays.

(08-16-2013 10:46 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 10:06 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 07:43 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 06:34 PM)Smaug Wrote:  What the hell is the difference between a civil union and a marriage?

If they're the same damn thing, then why two terms?

Marriage is a religious sacrament. There already is gay marriage in some faux churches. Civil Unions are just that... civil unions.

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The government does not agree...and they set the laws...not you, not the church.

Bingo.

Somehow this country doesn't seem to understand what religious freedom is anymore. It seems that a lot of people think you have a right to religious freedom as long as your religion is Christianity.

Whether you think it is weird, gross, right, wrong, etc. gay marriage will not have any effect on you. I truly do not get why so many people care about this subject. We have many bigger fish to fry, and if two men or two women want to get married, who the hell cares? If they are already living together and essentially acting like a married couple, how does getting married change anything?

Uh, the religious book states that no man shall ever lay with another man... You're right about civil a union not having any effect on me and had the homos and lesbos had just STFU and fought silently, then maybe those who oppose their desire to change the term of their civil union then none of this would be news. But no, they just had to be loud mouth crybabies.

Also, your "bingo" is way off. If a church doesn't want to marry a couple, they don't have to. There are lots of churches that won't even marry a couple if the female is pregnant at the time.

That's your religious book. Does everybody in this country have to follow it to a T?

And maybe this is why they want marriage:
http://civilunions.aclu-il.org/?page_id=48

By the way, those are very derogatory terms you are just throwing out there like it's nothing.

I have no problem if any church doesn't want to marry a gay couple. I never believe that should be forced on anybody any more than I believe your beliefs should be forced on people who are gay. The last time I checked, churches weren't the only place somebody could get married.

(08-16-2013 12:00 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 10:46 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 10:06 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 07:43 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Marriage is a religious sacrament. There already is gay marriage in some faux churches. Civil Unions are just that... civil unions.

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The government does not agree...and they set the laws...not you, not the church.

Bingo.

Somehow this country doesn't seem to understand what religious freedom is anymore. It seems that a lot of people think you have a right to religious freedom as long as your religion is Christianity.

Whether you think it is weird, gross, right, wrong, etc. gay marriage will not have any effect on you. I truly do not get why so many people care about this subject. We have many bigger fish to fry, and if two men or two women want to get married, who the hell cares? If they are already living together and essentially acting like a married couple, how does getting married change anything?

Uh, the religious book states that no man shall ever lay with another man... You're right about civil a union not having any effect on me and had the homos and lesbos had just STFU and fought silently, then maybe those who oppose their desire to change the term of their civil union then none of this would be news. But no, they just had to be loud mouth crybabies.

Also, your "bingo" is way off. If a church doesn't want to marry a couple, they don't have to. There are lots of churches that won't even marry a couple if the female is pregnant at the time.

That's your religious book. Does everybody in this country have to follow it to a T?

And maybe this is why they want marriage:
http://civilunions.aclu-il.org/?page_id=48

By the way, those are very derogatory terms you are just throwing out there like it's nothing.

I have no problem if any church doesn't want to marry a gay couple. I never believe that should be forced on anybody any more than I believe your beliefs should be forced on people who are gay. The last time I checked, churches weren't the only place somebody could get married.

Yes. He is one of those that thinks the US should implement Sharia Law Christian style here.

(08-16-2013 12:00 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 10:46 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 10:06 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 07:43 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Marriage is a religious sacrament. There already is gay marriage in some faux churches. Civil Unions are just that... civil unions.

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The government does not agree...and they set the laws...not you, not the church.

Bingo.

Somehow this country doesn't seem to understand what religious freedom is anymore. It seems that a lot of people think you have a right to religious freedom as long as your religion is Christianity.

Whether you think it is weird, gross, right, wrong, etc. gay marriage will not have any effect on you. I truly do not get why so many people care about this subject. We have many bigger fish to fry, and if two men or two women want to get married, who the hell cares? If they are already living together and essentially acting like a married couple, how does getting married change anything?

Uh, the religious book states that no man shall ever lay with another man... You're right about civil a union not having any effect on me and had the homos and lesbos had just STFU and fought silently, then maybe those who oppose their desire to change the term of their civil union then none of this would be news. But no, they just had to be loud mouth crybabies.

Also, your "bingo" is way off. If a church doesn't want to marry a couple, they don't have to. There are lots of churches that won't even marry a couple if the female is pregnant at the time.

That's your religious book. Does everybody in this country have to follow it to a T?

And maybe this is why they want marriage:
http://civilunions.aclu-il.org/?page_id=48

By the way, those are very derogatory terms you are just throwing out there like it's nothing.

I have no problem if any church doesn't want to marry a gay couple. I never believe that should be forced on anybody any more than I believe your beliefs should be forced on people who are gay. The last time I checked, churches weren't the only place somebody could get married.

Gimme a f*ckin break dude... When did shortening a word become derogatory? Homo and lesbo is a lot "nicer" than saying fag and dike. Get off your high horse and come back down to earth.

(08-16-2013 12:05 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 12:00 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 10:46 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 10:06 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  The government does not agree...and they set the laws...not you, not the church.

Bingo.

Somehow this country doesn't seem to understand what religious freedom is anymore. It seems that a lot of people think you have a right to religious freedom as long as your religion is Christianity.

Whether you think it is weird, gross, right, wrong, etc. gay marriage will not have any effect on you. I truly do not get why so many people care about this subject. We have many bigger fish to fry, and if two men or two women want to get married, who the hell cares? If they are already living together and essentially acting like a married couple, how does getting married change anything?

Uh, the religious book states that no man shall ever lay with another man... You're right about civil a union not having any effect on me and had the homos and lesbos had just STFU and fought silently, then maybe those who oppose their desire to change the term of their civil union then none of this would be news. But no, they just had to be loud mouth crybabies.

Also, your "bingo" is way off. If a church doesn't want to marry a couple, they don't have to. There are lots of churches that won't even marry a couple if the female is pregnant at the time.

That's your religious book. Does everybody in this country have to follow it to a T?

And maybe this is why they want marriage:
http://civilunions.aclu-il.org/?page_id=48

By the way, those are very derogatory terms you are just throwing out there like it's nothing.

I have no problem if any church doesn't want to marry a gay couple. I never believe that should be forced on anybody any more than I believe your beliefs should be forced on people who are gay. The last time I checked, churches weren't the only place somebody could get married.

Yes. He is one of those that thinks the US should implement Sharia Law Christian style here.

Your trolling is extremely weak.

(08-16-2013 10:21 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 07:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 01:56 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 01:51 PM)john01992 Wrote:  conservatives need to take their own advice......

conservatives say gays should just deal with the current status quo........

well I say conservatives should just deal with the changing status quo and focus on their own marriage

Look at how outraged you are are of the sudden John. Only when Barrack Obama took office did gay rights become such a life or death issue for you. Never mind they have more marital rights then ever before.

gay rights have been an issue for me long before obama was elected

you do realize i have a family member whose openly gay right?

#prick

I have a gay uncle, who f*cking cares? Let your brother remain gay, that's his business. Let him enter into a civil union with his BF, that's his business. Let him fight for his benefits and protection. Not to go from CU's to a traditional marriage.

I've said it before, that;s the only argument. The homos want all the same benefits, but are fighting to call it marriage. That's where the line is drawn. If they wanted their extras and didn't want to be f*ck bag whiny ******* about it then they wouldn't shoot for it to be called a marriage. They would fight for the law to be changed on what the receive under a civil union. Then both sides would be happy. Truth is, they don't want opposers to be happy, they want to be heard and throw a hissy fit.

We tried separate but equal...it doesn't work...if gay couples can't get married its not equal protection under the law...that's why gay marriage is a winner in the courts.

(08-14-2013 02:43 PM)Smaug Wrote:  By the way, apparently if you have sex without the intent to propagate the species, you're gonna burn.

That's not even biblical. I Corinthians 7:5 instructs married couples not to deprive each other except by mutual consent. The Hebrew word for "knew" (relations in some translations) in Genesis 4:1 literally means "to know, understand, perceive, learn, and discern".

Is pulling out sacrilegious?

(08-16-2013 05:09 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 10:21 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 07:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 01:56 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 01:51 PM)john01992 Wrote:  conservatives need to take their own advice......

conservatives say gays should just deal with the current status quo........

well I say conservatives should just deal with the changing status quo and focus on their own marriage

Look at how outraged you are are of the sudden John. Only when Barrack Obama took office did gay rights become such a life or death issue for you. Never mind they have more marital rights then ever before.

gay rights have been an issue for me long before obama was elected

you do realize i have a family member whose openly gay right?

#prick

I have a gay uncle, who f*cking cares? Let your brother remain gay, that's his business. Let him enter into a civil union with his BF, that's his business. Let him fight for his benefits and protection. Not to go from CU's to a traditional marriage.

I've said it before, that;s the only argument. The homos want all the same benefits, but are fighting to call it marriage. That's where the line is drawn. If they wanted their extras and didn't want to be f*ck bag whiny ******* about it then they wouldn't shoot for it to be called a marriage. They would fight for the law to be changed on what the receive under a civil union. Then both sides would be happy. Truth is, they don't want opposers to be happy, they want to be heard and throw a hissy fit.

We tried separate but equal...it doesn't work...if gay couples can't get married its not equal protection under the law...that's why gay marriage is a winner in the courts.

The law is man and wife. Every male has the right to marry a female and vice versa, equal protection doesn't apply.

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(08-16-2013 07:14 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 05:09 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(08-16-2013 10:21 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 07:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 01:56 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Look at how outraged you are are of the sudden John. Only when Barrack Obama took office did gay rights become such a life or death issue for you. Never mind they have more marital rights then ever before.

gay rights have been an issue for me long before obama was elected

you do realize i have a family member whose openly gay right?

#prick

I have a gay uncle, who f*cking cares? Let your brother remain gay, that's his business. Let him enter into a civil union with his BF, that's his business. Let him fight for his benefits and protection. Not to go from CU's to a traditional marriage.

I've said it before, that;s the only argument. The homos want all the same benefits, but are fighting to call it marriage. That's where the line is drawn. If they wanted their extras and didn't want to be f*ck bag whiny ******* about it then they wouldn't shoot for it to be called a marriage. They would fight for the law to be changed on what the receive under a civil union. Then both sides would be happy. Truth is, they don't want opposers to be happy, they want to be heard and throw a hissy fit.

We tried separate but equal...it doesn't work...if gay couples can't get married its not equal protection under the law...that's why gay marriage is a winner in the courts.

The law is man and wife. Every male has the right to marry a female and vice versa, equal protection doesn't apply.

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What federal law says marriage is between a man and a woman?

Christians who feel Gay Marriage devalues their own marriages always make me chuckle. If the value of your marriage decreases because gays are allowed to marry those they love, then your marriage is already worthless.