(08-14-2013 04:11 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 04:09 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 04:04 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 04:00 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  This whole argument is over US being able to marry, but not THEM.

Right. You got yours. I got mine. Prohibiting them from getting theirs is un-American.

What about a straight man showering with women at school?

well if you are worried about gays in the locker room.....all i can say is to just deal with it

See? We do agree... I want to shower with chicks in college but I can't because I don't meet the qualifications of either being a female or tranny. But I can get married to my GF because she's not the same sex. Just as I have to deal with not getting to shower in the girls locker room with the girls, gays have to deal with not being able to marry.

Straw man.

Answer my question. I got mine. You get yours. What is your objection to them getting theirs?

(08-14-2013 04:24 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 04:21 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 04:01 PM)john01992 Wrote:  if you want to have such a big say in other peoples marriage......

then im assuming that you wont mind if i can have a say on what goes on in your marriage.....

only fair....

how.....because it does fit your argument? because homosexuals are not real people? because you think homosexuals deserve to be discriminated against?

When have I ever said that gays aren't real people? You guys really go above and beyond to prove whimsical points... Just because I don't support gay marriage, YOU think that you should be able to tell me what to do in mine. Marriage is a formal union of a man and a woman, typically recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife. This is the law, and being a law abiding citizen, this is what I support. Being changed because you and your partner want protections and priviledges doesn't constitute swaying my opinion, nor will it. Fight to have the laws changed so that you and your partner can receive benefits or whatever it is that you want when you enter into a civil union. It's that simple, then everyone is happy. Why not try your best to keep both sides happy? Why fuel the fire?

(08-15-2013 09:44 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 04:11 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 04:09 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 04:04 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 04:00 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  This whole argument is over US being able to marry, but not THEM.

Right. You got yours. I got mine. Prohibiting them from getting theirs is un-American.

What about a straight man showering with women at school?

well if you are worried about gays in the locker room.....all i can say is to just deal with it

See? We do agree... I want to shower with chicks in college but I can't because I don't meet the qualifications of either being a female or tranny. But I can get married to my GF because she's not the same sex. Just as I have to deal with not getting to shower in the girls locker room with the girls, gays have to deal with not being able to marry.

you totally missed the point i was making there

(08-14-2013 04:28 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 04:21 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-14-2013 04:01 PM)john01992 Wrote:  if you want to have such a big say in other peoples marriage......

then im assuming that you wont mind if i can have a say on what goes on in your marriage.....

only fair....

Actually, this picture is more apt:

Yeah, he was kind of close but still missed the point...

(08-15-2013 09:49 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Straw man.

Answer my question. I got mine. You get yours. What is your objection to them getting theirs?

Beuller? Beuller?

(08-14-2013 01:04 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Because marriage is a union designed for a man and a women.

Answer this question:

Why do gay couples normally have one partner playing the role of the man, while the other acquires the more feminine role?

First of all, this is mostly untrue. I speak from personal and professional experience here when I say this. However, in some cases, you might find this to be true. The answer is simple - because people often do not always fit gender stereotypes. This applies to both gay and straight couples and families, as I have seen first hand. In fact, a large portion of gay couples have both partners who are both masculine and do not portray feminine stereotypical characteristics.

(08-15-2013 09:49 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Straw man.

Answer my question. I got mine. You get yours. What is your objection to them getting theirs?

Marriage. It's between a man and a woman... It's between a MAN and a WOMAN.

I don't have a single problem with them getting theirs, what's the problem with changing the law so that they can have theirs under a civil union?

Straight = Traditional marriage
Gay = Civil union

WTF is the problem dude? It's two different categories, nothing to keep boo hooing about and being so damn melodramatic over.

(08-15-2013 10:07 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 09:49 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Straw man.

Answer my question. I got mine. You get yours. What is your objection to them getting theirs?

Beuller? Beuller?

It's not hard. They just want to push their way into everything meant for straight people. Just like the BSA... Why not make your own club? This way there's no hard feelings from anyone and everybody gets what they want. Why can't you people see that?

(08-15-2013 10:19 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:07 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 09:49 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Straw man.

Answer my question. I got mine. You get yours. What is your objection to them getting theirs?

Beuller? Beuller?

It's not hard. They just want to push their way into everything meant for straight people. Just like the BSA... Why not make your own club? This way there's no hard feelings from anyone and everybody gets what they want. Why can't you people see that?

They're pushing their way into your house? How are you harmed?

Be specific.

(08-14-2013 12:56 PM)psualltheway5 Wrote:  It's the 21st century, yet we are still debating gay marriage, as if there is a debate. When are the righties going to realize that we aren't in the 60's anymore? Not looking to troll either, I'm sincerely wondering what arguments still exist.

I've always wondered why government has any role whatsoever in marriage.

(08-15-2013 10:16 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  what's the problem with changing the law so that they can have theirs under a civil union?

Straight = Traditional marriage
Gay = Civil union

So, the same thing, with different names?

It's the use of the term "marriage" that sticks in your craw, is it?

(08-15-2013 10:29 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:16 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  what's the problem with changing the law so that they can have theirs under a civil union?

Straight = Traditional marriage
Gay = Civil union

So, the same thing, with different names?

It's the use of the term "marriage" that sticks in your craw, is it?

If that's their issue, the right is far more dysfunctional than we thought.

(08-15-2013 10:33 AM)psualltheway5 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:29 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:16 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  what's the problem with changing the law so that they can have theirs under a civil union?

Straight = Traditional marriage
Gay = Civil union

So, the same thing, with different names?

It's the use of the term "marriage" that sticks in your craw, is it?

If that's their issue, the right is far more dysfunctional than we thought.

i mean this is the same party who legitimately thinks obama is a muslim terrorist.........

(08-15-2013 10:44 AM)john01992 Wrote:  i mean this is the same party who legitimately thinks obama is a muslim terrorist.........

That's an awfully broad brush you're painting with there.

(08-15-2013 10:45 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:44 AM)john01992 Wrote:  i mean this is the same party who legitimately thinks obama is a muslim terrorist.........

That's an awfully broad brush you're painting with there.

maybe.....but there was a pretty strong birther movement and sarah palin certainly doesnt help their case

He might have muslim blood, but he is clearly atheist.

(08-15-2013 10:55 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:45 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:44 AM)john01992 Wrote:  i mean this is the same party who legitimately thinks obama is a muslim terrorist.........

That's an awfully broad brush you're painting with there.

maybe.....but there was a pretty strong birther movement and sarah palin certainly doesnt help their case

There also people who think 9/11 was an inside job. Neither party has cornered the market on nuts. And any shot at Palin, I'd just counter with two words: Joe Biden.

(08-15-2013 10:29 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-15-2013 10:16 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  what's the problem with changing the law so that they can have theirs under a civil union?

Straight = Traditional marriage
Gay = Civil union

So, the same thing, with different names?

It's the use of the term "marriage" that sticks in your craw, is it?

They're the ones with the issue. Separate isn't equal and all. It's in their craw.

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

So, you're cool with gays using the term "marriage".