Jacksonville isn't close to Louisville but we still managed to send 25,000 to 30,000 down there. Whatever bowl game UofL makes expect no less than 20,000 period. Louisville has direct flights to charlotte and its nothing to make a trip there.

nflsucks Wrote:

Quote:Or we could watched our team outplay a top 5, Sugar Bowl champ West Virginia in Morgantown this past year. Most WV fans said we deserved to win that game

I would argue that we were not a top 5 team while Bednarik was QB and Slaton was receiving minimal carries at HB. But point taken.

Pat White played a whole half in that game and threw 2 ints.

You West Virginia guys can comment as you have seen our team the previous 3 years under Logan and John Thompson. Are any of you going to deny that Holtz had the team prepared much better and believing in themselves? It's really was like night and day this year and I can't imagine Rodriguez is looking forward to taking a top 10 team into Greenville this year either.

kardphan Wrote:Jacksonville isn't close to Louisville but we still managed to send 25,000 to 30,000 down there. Whatever bowl game UofL makes expect no less than 20,000 period. Louisville has direct flights to charlotte and its nothing to make a trip there.

...And we did similar numbers for the Peach/Atlanta 15 years ago in a lower quality bowl. I think ECU would put up similar numbers for similar bowls.

What did you guys take to the GMAC. 20k?? ;-)

StillJonesing Wrote:

BullsFanatic Wrote:You ECU fans are so funny. If you need the 1AA teams to make a bowl, why didn't you schedule them? Why schedule 2-3 BCS teams a year if you can't handle it? But hey, at least you get to watch your team being beat by a Virginia Tech instead of a Wake Forest or Duke.

Or we could watched our team outplay a top 5, Sugar Bowl champ West Virginia in Morgantown this past year. Most WV fans said we deserved to win that game, and to answer your question as to why we schedule 3-4 BCS schools a year. Because we can, we can get home and homes with rival teams that will generate excitement with in our program that Bill and Mary or NC A&T or some D1a sister of the poor can never deliver and we can expand our stadium and sell it out regularly.

It's called ambition

http://www.bonesville.net/Articles/Other...Future.htm

We have consistantly beaten these type of teams in the past and will be more likely to take quite a few of these as they have to vist us just as much as we visit them now. 1999 and 2000 wasn't decades ago, we swept through Miami, Texas Tech, West Virginia, Syracuse, NC State, S. Carolina and Duke in just those two years.

UC has consistently beaten those teams over the last 6 years, that doesn't mean anything. I like ECU that doesn't mean anything. UC outplayed Ohio State, who went on to win the national title so I don't understand why ECU is still bragging about playing West Virginia tough.

StillJonesing Wrote:

nflsucks Wrote:

Quote:Or we could watched our team outplay a top 5, Sugar Bowl champ West Virginia in Morgantown this past year. Most WV fans said we deserved to win that game

I would argue that we were not a top 5 team while Bednarik was QB and Slaton was receiving minimal carries at HB. But point taken.

Pat White played a whole half in that game and threw 2 ints.

You West Virginia guys can comment as you have seen our team the previous 3 years under Logan and John Thompson. Are any of you going to deny that Holtz had the team prepared much better and believing in themselves? It's really was like night and day this year and I can't imagine Rodriguez is looking forward to taking a top 10 team into Greenville this year either.

Again, night and day. The West Virginia team that played ECU was a completely different team. West Virginia didn't hit their stride until after the Virginia Tech game. In fact, West Virginia wasn't even a Top 25 team until a month after the ECU game.

Quote:Pat White played a whole half in that game and threw 2 ints.

You West Virginia guys can comment as you have seen our team the previous 3 years under Logan and John Thompson. Are any of you going to deny that Holtz had the team prepared much better and believing in themselves? It's really was like night and day this year and I can't imagine Rodriguez is looking forward to taking a top 10 team into Greenville this year either.

-- Yes...ECU was more prepared (thank goodness) for that game. People who read this board reguarly know that I have a lot of respect for ECU but the last 3-4 WVU/ECU games have been horrible. WVUs RBS (Courbourne, Wilson or Harris depending on the yr) literally ran over ECU. The night that Kay Jay Harris broke the single game BE rushing record against the Pirates was the worst run defense I have ever seen at the college level

-- With that being said...ECU played WVU at the perfect time last yr...WVU played the Pirates in between two major rivals : Maryland and Virginia Tech...also while Pat White played, Steve Slaton did not...and WVU didn't hit high gear untill Slaton became a starter


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I would be surprised if the Big East lost the bowl in Charlotte. I do believe that ECU could be added to the mix even if they aren't taken into the Big East when it expands. Would give them the option of taking ECU or a Big East team. I'm not sure what the current ties are between the Liberty and ECU but in the past they've had a good relationship.

I don't really see a bowl switching conferences just because a team is or isn't added. Could be wrong but I would be surprised. Stranger things have happened.

CatsClaw Wrote:

StillJonesing Wrote:

BullsFanatic Wrote:You ECU fans are so funny. If you need the 1AA teams to make a bowl, why didn't you schedule them? Why schedule 2-3 BCS teams a year if you can't handle it? But hey, at least you get to watch your team being beat by a Virginia Tech instead of a Wake Forest or Duke.

Or we could watched our team outplay a top 5, Sugar Bowl champ West Virginia in Morgantown this past year. Most WV fans said we deserved to win that game, and to answer your question as to why we schedule 3-4 BCS schools a year. Because we can, we can get home and homes with rival teams that will generate excitement with in our program that Bill and Mary or NC A&T or some D1a sister of the poor can never deliver and we can expand our stadium and sell it out regularly.

It's called ambition

http://www.bonesville.net/Articles/Other...Future.htm

We have consistantly beaten these type of teams in the past and will be more likely to take quite a few of these as they have to vist us just as much as we visit them now. 1999 and 2000 wasn't decades ago, we swept through Miami, Texas Tech, West Virginia, Syracuse, NC State, S. Carolina and Duke in just those two years.

UC has consistently beaten those teams over the last 6 years, that doesn't mean anything. I like ECU that doesn't mean anything. UC outplayed Ohio State, who went on to win the national title so I don't understand why ECU is still bragging about playing West Virginia tough.

I'm not bragging, some guy asked why we wanted to played all BCS teams and get our heads beat in. I think he is wrong because none of us expect to get crushed by those teams in the future, we can beat those type of teams in the past and they all come to Greenville just as much ast we travel.

Coming from where we were under John Thompson, last year we just hoped to be compeditive again and we were more than compeditive. I don't like Moral victories but playing WV like we did was that step forward after were we were the previous 2 years. Do we just want to just play close? Hell no that is what got Logan fired. Now this year I fully expect to beat one or two of these OOC games Navy, NC State, UVA, or WV.

There has been a lot of talk about WVU and UL taking folks to bowl games. That is my point and the point of the folks in Charlotte and Memphis. It is widely believed by most, that the top 2 teams in the Big East will be WVU and UL in most years. That will be your BCS and Gator teams. Where does that leave Charlotte? Memphis? You do not have another team that travels well to bowl games. That has been proven over and over again. It has also been proven over and over again that ECU will take 10's of thousands to a bowl game east of the Mississippi river. We took 35,000 to the Peach, we took 20,000 to the Liberty TWICE. AND we have taken 20,000-30,000 to Charlotte 3 times for regular season games. We will do it again in 2007 against Va Tech.

The ties between U of Memphis and the Liberty Bowl are political. The facts are that the Tigers have never been to the Liberty Bowl. The local sponsers do not want the Tigers in the Liberty Bowl because they will not sell hotel room, rent cars, airfare, food, etc etc etc. That is the same excuse that someone above wrote for ECU in Charlotte. The difference is that ECU is 4 -5 hours away from Charlotte. That is not a day trip once you throw in the tailgate and game. That is why the city keeps asking the Pirates to come back over and over again. We bring fans and we spend money.

Here is ECU's history with Charlotte:

1996 NC STATE
1999 WVU
2004 NC STATE
2007 VT

Some of you still aren't getting it. Even if West Virginia and Louisville finish first and second in the Big East for each of the next four years. The champion will go to the BCS. The runner-up will go to the Gator or Sun. But don't forget that Notre Dame, if they don't make the BCS, will go to those bowls once each. So the Big East runner-up will get pushed down to Houston.

Charlotte picks fourth. They could get the third place team, or the fourth place team, depending on where the Fighting Irish end up. Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Connecticut, Syracuse, Cincinnati, and South Florida would all be in the mix. I refuse to believe that all six of those schools travel so poorly that they would scare the bowl organizers into switching to a worse league.

Finally you're not factoring in who the ACC will send. Someone out of North Carolina, North Carolina State, Duke, Wake Forest, Clemson, Virginia, and Virginia Tech is going to end up in this bowl every year. There can't be any scenario where not one of these teams would be available to go to Charlotte. That takes care of any attendance worries they could ever have.

actually the runner up could end up in charlotte if the Houston bowl picks a CUSA team and notre Dame is in the Gator or Sun.

TopCoog Wrote:actually the runner up could end up in charlotte if the Houston bowl picks a CUSA team and notre Dame is in the Gator or Sun.

I highly doubt the Houston Bowl would pick a C-USA school over either WVU or Louisville. Outside of ECU none of the current C-USA schools have a history of traveling.

Maize, That deal was made after being pushed by local people so that the Coogs were not excluded from our hometown bowl and for no other reason. I can assure you that if we are 8-4 or 9-3 and not in the Liberty Bowl we will be in the Houston bowl.

TopCoog Wrote:Maize, That deal was made after being pushed by local people so that the Coogs were not excluded from our hometown bowl and for no other reason. I can assure you that if we are 8-4 or 9-3 and not in the Liberty Bowl we will be in the Houston bowl.

That would be surprising considering NOBODY goes to your games. It could be argued very successfully that WVU and Louisville would bring more people to the game and would inject more money into the local community then the hometown Coogs.

TopCoog Wrote:actually the runner up could end up in charlotte if the Houston bowl picks a CUSA team and notre Dame is in the Gator or Sun.

In that case, the Meineke Car Care Charlotte Bowl people really should have no complaints, and the Big East is in it to stay.

thats bright, they really do not have any complaints.

Maize Wrote:

TopCoog Wrote:Maize, That deal was made after being pushed by local people so that the Coogs were not excluded from our hometown bowl and for no other reason. I can assure you that if we are 8-4 or 9-3 and not in the Liberty Bowl we will be in the Houston bowl.

That would be surprising considering NOBODY goes to your games. It could be argued very successfully that WVU and Louisville would bring more people to the game and would inject more money into the local community then the hometown Coogs.

They would not even come close Maize, Louisville does not draw anyone down here. We draw fine when someone is here that Houston fans want to see. Miami was here two years ago and 36K showed up, you guys roll in and we are lucky to get 20.

TopCoog Wrote:

Maize Wrote:

TopCoog Wrote:Maize, That deal was made after being pushed by local people so that the Coogs were not excluded from our hometown bowl and for no other reason. I can assure you that if we are 8-4 or 9-3 and not in the Liberty Bowl we will be in the Houston bowl.

That would be surprising considering NOBODY goes to your games. It could be argued very successfully that WVU and Louisville would bring more people to the game and would inject more money into the local community then the hometown Coogs.

They would not even come close Maize, Louisville does not draw anyone down here. We draw fine when someone is here that Houston fans want to see. Miami was here two years ago and 36K showed up, you guys roll in and we are lucky to get 20.

Did you even in factor in that when you played us it was at the end of a losing season for Houston.

Houston attendence for the past 5-10 years has been in general horrible.

Look, OSU is coming in the September. We will sell out that game in Robertson. The problem with Houston's attendance is playing teams like louisville, Memphis and ECU. Houston fans have never bought in to CUSA and the hard cold facts are that in this kind of market its all about consumerism. houston and nebraska would sell out the Houston bowl and half of them would be our fans.

hell maize, we sold 52,000 tickets to a frickin basketball game here.