(03-30-2013 08:06 PM)joshdude182 Wrote:  Can we just ban all georgia southern people from this board? It's impossible to read anything here anymore without having to skim over pages and pages of their arrogant delusional BS.

Seems someone is lost. Here's the solution to your problem.

http://csnbbs.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=514

How many FCS teams have beaten Sun Belt teams in the past few years? Just sayin......
You guys are a clear step up for us, and we all respect that. But this illusion that we will somehow be out classed by your athletes is silly. We already recruit against a lot of you anyway.
And for the Marshall guy, you stopped Mike Sewak's version of the option. Big difference between that and what we run now.

Let me reiterate, I respect this conference. I argued for us to join it 10 years ago when were asked. I'm psyched to be associate with these schools. Just spare us true blue the condescension. We will compete with you in every category immediately.

(03-30-2013 08:13 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 08:04 PM)Walter Sobchak Wrote:  I'm trying to keep it cool and respectful, but let's be frank, Ernest. The sun belt is way better than the smallCon, and I am ecstatic about being invited finally. That said, this conference has no idea what is coming for it in 2014. These guys who think Ga southern will struggle, don't know Jeff monken or the history of this program.
I, and the entirety of eagle nation, fully expect us to compete for championships right away. That's just how we roll.

The only reason GSU won't struggle is because the SBC was essentially forced to add several FCS move-ups and 2 of the worst FBS programs in America with GSU. It's essentially going to be the equivelent or very close to FCS ball for several years with the exception of playing ULL, ULM, Ark St and Troy.

Didn't navy run it up to 50 points on you in dowdy-ficklin last year? We want a game with the pirates, like now. Trust me, dude. We're going to surprise you all and make the sun belt proud in the out of conference games.

(03-30-2013 08:06 PM)joshdude182 Wrote:  Can we just ban all georgia southern people from this board? It's impossible to read anything here anymore without having to skim over pages and pages of their arrogant delusional BS.

It doesn't happen often, but by gum, I agree with the UNT guy.

On a TOTALLY unrelated note... What the hell does GATA Eagles mean? Just curious about that is all.

(03-30-2013 08:27 PM)Walter Sobchak Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 08:13 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 08:04 PM)Walter Sobchak Wrote:  I'm trying to keep it cool and respectful, but let's be frank, Ernest. The sun belt is way better than the smallCon, and I am ecstatic about being invited finally. That said, this conference has no idea what is coming for it in 2014. These guys who think Ga southern will struggle, don't know Jeff monken or the history of this program.
I, and the entirety of eagle nation, fully expect us to compete for championships right away. That's just how we roll.

The only reason GSU won't struggle is because the SBC was essentially forced to add several FCS move-ups and 2 of the worst FBS programs in America with GSU. It's essentially going to be the equivelent or very close to FCS ball for several years with the exception of playing ULL, ULM, Ark St and Troy.

Didn't navy run it up to 50 points on you in dowdy-ficklin last year? We want a game with the pirates, like now. Trust me, dude. We're going to surprise you all and make the sun belt proud in the out of conference games.

Yeah and Navy is a better program than GSU. We also fired our DC for that **** up. We had problems with that moron since his arrival.

If the powers that be didn't think App State and Georgia Southern were worthy additions, they wouldn't have extended the invite. Of course some of the fans of the status qou institutions balked at that decision as is evidence here. I am writing from a position of confidence in our program's ability to recruit the caliber athletes required to compete at the FBS Sun Belt level and field teams that will be successful. It has been my observation that the opposition to our invite is coming from corners where there must be the most threat felt by our future presence. Otherwise, why all the fuss.
Texas State, you've been FBS now for how long ? Silence from the GaState crowd. Louisiana seems to be the more prominent antagonist to Georgia Southern, and I guess those must feel threatened. Looking up the records, I can understand where the concern is justified.
Like the old Eastern Airlines slogan used to say, "we earn our wings everyday". We have a lot to prove, and I'm not saying we're going to come into a new conference and be world beaters right off the bat, but go ahead and under estimate Georgia Southern if that pleases yah. I'm all for it.

(03-30-2013 08:41 PM)DawggoneEagle Wrote:  If the powers that be didn't think App State and Georgia Southern were worthy additions, they wouldn't have extended the invite.

You had no competition for the invite. Tough to say that they felt you were a worthy addition if the options are you or Liberty.

And the rest of your post was just... well, absurd, so I didn't bother to repost it.

But there's no threat implied. I HOPE every conference member goes undefeated (except for one loss... to us, of course). I know it's not even mathematically possible, but you get the point.

What people are taking issue with is not even YOUR school (or App State, even). It's the situation. As of now, a potential of 50% of the conference will be FBS new (I'm counting us and USA in that group). A pair of those NOT FBS new are the two worst programs in FBS. That's NOT a strong conference. I don't care how special you think the triple option is. I don't care how special you think the win over Michigan was. I don't care if Fran is the second coming of Christ. It takes time to get to FBS level, regardless of if you think you're the best thing since sliced bread.

I honestly feel bad for Troy, Louisiana, ULM, & ASU. This is not something easy to sell to their fanbase or donors.

And the constant blustering about how great your teams are only serves to irritate the FBS "old" even further. You tout how many yards you put on whatever FBS team, thinking they actually paid attention to the game that week. FBS teams scheme for their next FBS team during FCS game week. Why? Because they know on general principle, they can run base offense and defense to win (due to the size and depth difference between FBS/FCS).

Basically, the constant blathering of ignorance about how great you are going to be in 2014 just gets old.

(03-30-2013 04:18 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  http://www.theind.com/news/sports/12127-...conference

Unless the Sun Belt can persuade current members of other FBS conferences to come aboard (an unlikely prospect), the pool of possible new members is made up of current FCS members. Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, Sam Houston State and Lamar have been mentioned — mentions that stick in Hudspeth’s craw.

“I’m not favoring turning this into a ‘take all the I-AA’ league,” he told the Advertiser. “I’m not interested in that route whatsoever.”
Apparently, the only way to avoid that is for the Cajuns to join the departed, and Savoie and Farmer made veiled references to that in their Thursday statement.

Granted, dude seems to be a d-bag, but I'm trying to see what the big deal is here. Shocking, the guy didn't want FCS teams in the Sun Belt. Even though the Belt was formed with a large contingent of I-AA move ups at the time, I'm sure similar things were said when Troy, FIU, FAU, and they probably didn't even want WKU when they decided to move from FCS to FBS.

If we start taking care of business in 2014, comments like that will never be heard again.

Will Hudspeth apologize? No. This is making a mountain out of a mole hill. Would it been more diplomatic not to say what he did? Yes, but it is no big deal. If App and GaSo don't like what he said, then make him eat his words on the field. Until then, let's get ready for 2014.

(03-30-2013 08:41 PM)DawggoneEagle Wrote:  If the powers that be didn't think App State and Georgia Southern were worthy additions, they wouldn't have extended the invite. Of course some of the fans of the status qou institutions balked at that decision as is evidence here. I am writing from a position of confidence in our program's ability to recruit the caliber athletes required to compete at the FBS Sun Belt level and field teams that will be successful. It has been my observation that the opposition to our invite is coming from corners where there must be the most threat felt by our future presence. Otherwise, why all the fuss.
Texas State, you've been FBS now for how long ? Silence from the GaState crowd. Louisiana seems to be the more prominent antagonist to Georgia Southern, and I guess those must feel threatened. Looking up the records, I can understand where the concern is justified.
Like the old Eastern Airlines slogan used to say, "we earn our wings everyday". We have a lot to prove, and I'm not saying we're going to come into a new conference and be world beaters right off the bat, but go ahead and under estimate Georgia Southern if that pleases yah. I'm all for it.

You threaten us not at all. You were added to this Conference because you were the best that were available. If you read my earlier post you saw exactly why Coach Hud reacted the way he did. You are the antagonizer not UL. I guarantee you that Mark Hudspeth has respect for your program and what you have accomplished. The statement that he made was a general statement and I agree with him. With that said I agree that Georgia Southern and Appalachian ST. were the top 2 programs available to the Sun Belt and I think that you will be competitive. As for your offense. Every Ragin Cajun fan is very familiar with it as we ran the same offense with a quarterback named Brian Mitchell. As for me, I was a member of that staff for 9 years....I wish you luck in the Belt but ask all Georgia Southern fans to please show a little respect to your new Conference mates...some of you are getting dangerously close to acting like UGA fans....

(03-30-2013 08:51 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 08:41 PM)DawggoneEagle Wrote:  If the powers that be didn't think App State and Georgia Southern were worthy additions, they wouldn't have extended the invite.

You had no competition for the invite. Tough to say that they felt you were a worthy addition if the options are you or Liberty.

And the rest of your post was just... well, absurd, so I didn't bother to repost it.

But there's no threat implied. I HOPE every conference member goes undefeated (except for one loss... to us, of course). I know it's not even mathematically possible, but you get the point.

What people are taking issue with is not even YOUR school (or App State, even). It's the situation. As of now, a potential of 50% of the conference will be FBS new (I'm counting us and USA in that group). A pair of those NOT FBS new are the two worst programs in FBS. That's NOT a strong conference. I don't care how special you think the triple option is. I don't care how special you think the win over Michigan was. I don't care if Fran is the second coming of Christ. It takes time to get to FBS level, regardless of if you think you're the best thing since sliced bread.

I honestly feel bad for Troy, Louisiana, ULM, & ASU. This is not something easy to sell to their fanbase or donors.

And the constant blustering about how great your teams are only serves to irritate the FBS "old" even further. You tout how many yards you put on whatever FBS team, thinking they actually paid attention to the game that week. FBS teams scheme for their next FBS team during FCS game week. Why? Because they know on general principle, they can run base offense and defense to win (due to the size and depth difference between FBS/FCS).

Basically, the constant blathering of ignorance about how great you are going to be in 2014 just gets old.

The straw that broke the camel's back was Idaho at all and NMSU for football only. It had nothing to do with our FCS move-ups. I still think App State, Ga Southern, and TXST are going to end up being improvements.

Our lineup....as long as UL is still in it. Is fine with me. Except for the Idaho/NM thing and that Idaho/NM thing makes me want to get out.

Not that I care. But, this article was from long before Ga Sou and App were ever officially invited.

I'm still trying to figure out what he said that would cause a need for an apology. I'm perplexed.

All the article quoted him as saying was: "I’m not favoring turning this into a ‘take all the I-AA’ league," and "I’m not interested in that route whatsoever.” In neither quote did he disparage any program. In neither quote did he disparage even the FCS. He just said he wasn't favoring taking all the FCS teams.

Wow, talk about sensitive.

Quote:Yeah and Navy is a better program than GSU.

Ridiculous statement. You've clearly been hanging out on 5th street tonight.
Our skill position athletes are generally superior to theirs. Now that we'll have 85 scholarships, we'll blow out navy.

(03-30-2013 08:27 PM)Walter Sobchak Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 08:13 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 08:04 PM)Walter Sobchak Wrote:  I'm trying to keep it cool and respectful, but let's be frank, Ernest. The sun belt is way better than the smallCon, and I am ecstatic about being invited finally. That said, this conference has no idea what is coming for it in 2014. These guys who think Ga southern will struggle, don't know Jeff monken or the history of this program.
I, and the entirety of eagle nation, fully expect us to compete for championships right away. That's just how we roll.

The only reason GSU won't struggle is because the SBC was essentially forced to add several FCS move-ups and 2 of the worst FBS programs in America with GSU. It's essentially going to be the equivelent or very close to FCS ball for several years with the exception of playing ULL, ULM, Ark St and Troy.

Didn't navy run it up to 50 points on you in dowdy-ficklin last year? We want a game with the pirates, like now. Trust me, dude. We're going to surprise you all and make the sun belt proud in the out of conference games.

In 2010 we lost to Navy at Navy 13-7. Later that year Navy beat ECU 76-35 in Greenville.

Huds made those comments knowing that the SB was not going to steal a FBS program from CUSA and knowing the SB would have to go to the FCS ranks to remain solvent.

I hope we get the Cajuns in Statesboro in 2014. Make it happen Benson.

(03-30-2013 09:11 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Huds made those comments knowing that the SB was not going to steal a FBS program from CUSA and knowing the SB would have to go to the FCS ranks to remain solvent.

I hope we get the Cajuns in Statesboro in 2014. Make it happen Benson.

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And I still agree with him......when we are out of here along with Arkansas ST. and you have to add 2 western fcs members you will understand exactly how he feels..

(03-30-2013 09:17 PM)swampbear Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 09:11 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Huds made those comments knowing that the SB was not going to steal a FBS program from CUSA and knowing the SB would have to go to the FCS ranks to remain solvent.

I hope we get the Cajuns in Statesboro in 2014. Make it happen Benson.

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And I still agree with him......when we are out of here along with Arkansas ST. and you have to add 2 western fcs members you will understand exactly how he feels..

Take us with you?

(03-30-2013 09:34 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 09:17 PM)swampbear Wrote:  

(03-30-2013 09:11 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Huds made those comments knowing that the SB was not going to steal a FBS program from CUSA and knowing the SB would have to go to the FCS ranks to remain solvent.

I hope we get the Cajuns in Statesboro in 2014. Make it happen Benson.

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And I still agree with him......when we are out of here along with Arkansas ST. and you have to add 2 western fcs members you will understand exactly how he feels..

Take us with you?

Well if we are together for however long....please call us UL or just Louisiana....there is a very long history behind our name and certainly hope you would honor our request and bring more pretige to the league...

(03-30-2013 09:17 PM)swampbear Wrote:  ..when we are out of here along with Arkansas State..

Not trying to be facetious, but where are you going? I mean, if either school was as desirable as fans claim, wouldn't they be gone already?

App got a dose of that when we had a bunch of goofballs claiming we were next in line to C-USA, only to see school after school pass on by.