(02-27-2013 02:01 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Our lack of perimeter D (which works fine in CUSA) really hurts us outside of CUSA.
Our lack of rebounders (which works fine against CUSA) really hurts us outside of CUSA.
We had long stretches of passing around the perimeter and then jacking shots, no plays being ran.
We had stretches where we would run back on D and then stand and watch their PG casually walk the ball up the court. I am not saying PRESS, but I am saying force the pace which was a key to victory last night that we just seemed to ignore.

The number 1 biggest issue we have, we fold under pressure, also known as choking. Players take after their coach.


Considering we continue to have the exact same problems that we have had for 4 seasons, you guys can all blame it on the players if you want, but we all know that isnt the case.

This team just doesn't have the opportunity to become battle tested. All of these other teams in better conferences are battling night in and night out. Even the top 10 teams. There is no way to simulate that and prepare. Just feel that we are always at a disadvantage against battle-tested comparable teams. Next year,atleast for 1 year, we shouldn't have that problem.

Having said that, I still like this team.

I am SOOOO glad some of you guys are seeing this. Everytime I would post something to this effect I would get one of those acronyms that would tell me what I could do with my opinion. This problem been there for at least 3 years. Adonis was a non factor last night. One of Tarik's bad habits is refusing to lay the ball up in the square where it has a better chance of going in but instead tries to lay it over the rim missing the shot. He shoots a big percentage based on dunks. He has no shot 6-8 ft. from the goal. I don't see anyway he plays in the NBA without a shot. He rebounded well last night but most of the time gets less rebounds than the guards on a per minute basis. In the off season he needs to work with someone on his offensive skills and rebounding or he won't even make a European league. As far as Shaq goes he has a great upside. He just makes bad decisions when it comes to passing which will get better over time. The Tigers are a much better team with him on the flooor because he hustles. I just don't believe big guys in general work on their free throw shooting much. Any D-1 guy 6'9'' should shoot 65-70%. I don't believe we are bashing Tigers by saying these things. I never said these things about other Tiger big men except Will Coleman who was a superb athlete with limited basketball experience and Kelvin Allen who couldn't catch a volleyball with velcro all over it. Right now a quality big man is what's keeping the Tigers from being a really elite team. Shaq will be one and looking forward to seeing Nichols. We missed the boat on Mbakwe who handed us our heads a couple of months ago. Our season is not over however and the Tigers can still be proud of it. I would have gladly taken 24-4 when the season started.

(02-27-2013 03:43 PM)Antonio5fan Wrote:  I am SOOOO glad some of you guys are seeing this. Everytime I would post something to this effect I would get one of those acronyms that would tell me what I could do with my opinion. This problem been there for at least 3 years. Adonis was a non factor last night. One of Tarik's bad habits is refusing to lay the ball up in the square where it has a better chance of going in but instead tries to lay it over the rim missing the shot. He shoots a big percentage based on dunks. He has no shot 6-8 ft. from the goal. I don't see anyway he plays in the NBA without a shot. He rebounded well last night but most of the time gets less rebounds than the guards on a per minute basis. In the off season he needs to work with someone on his offensive skills and rebounding or he won't even make a European league. As far as Shaq goes he has a great upside. He just makes bad decisions when it comes to passing which will get better over time. The Tigers are a much better team with him on the flooor because he hustles. I just don't believe big guys in general work on their free throw shooting much. Any D-1 guy 6'9'' should shoot 65-70%. I don't believe we are bashing Tigers by saying these things. I never said these things about other Tiger big men except Will Coleman who was a superb athlete with limited basketball experience and Kelvin Allen who couldn't catch a volleyball with velcro all over it. Right now a quality big man is what's keeping the Tigers from being a really elite team. Shaq will be one and looking forward to seeing Nichols. We missed the boat on Mbakwe who handed us our heads a couple of months ago. Our season is not over however and the Tigers can still be proud of it. I would have gladly taken 24-4 when the season started.

You know you're posting in a BTiger thread, right?

(02-27-2013 10:11 AM)davidr Wrote:  If Shaq n Black could keep out of foul trouble, we'd be much better.

Part of their foul problems lay at the hand of the guards. A lot of their fouls are from rotating off their man to pic up a player lost by someone else.

It’s not a problem of having a capable frontline, it’s a problem of actually placing a capable frontline on the floor. Simple example…

If Stokes & Maymon were the 4 & 5 when we played UTK who do you think would have dominated the paint, Shaq & DJ? Then what about Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Kansas, Florida, Indiana, Georgetown, Duke, UCLA, UNLV or UK with a healthy Noel (ect)?

Hmmm…watching Georgetown & Uconn now and GT had 3 bigs at one time. Food for thought.

(02-27-2013 04:53 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:11 AM)davidr Wrote:  If Shaq n Black could keep out of foul trouble, we'd be much better.

Part of their foul problems lay at the hand of the guards. A lot of their fouls are from rotating off their man to pic up a player lost by someone else.

Yep. They have two big problems that contribute to their fouls. They switch and dont switch back before the damage is done, and they go for blocks instead of defending with their feet.

I would like for us to try to play big against big teams. Why not put Joe, Geron, Adonis, Shaq, and tarik out there? plenty of perimeter shooting and ballhandling in that lineup

(02-27-2013 01:45 PM)Derby Wrote:  

btiger Wrote:Our Lack Of A Front-Line Will Keep Us From Winning

Winning what?

Xavier started 1 Guard 6'3 and 4 forward 6'6, 6'8, 6'8, 6'10. the Tigers 6'1, 6'3, 6'6, 6'5 and 6'9. Thats an 11 inch difference. Josh fail to recognize the disparity early.Our failure to pressure full court in the first half basically cost us the game along with freethrow shooting. the press in the second half retarded them from getting in their half court set with the ease that they had in the first half. This team thrive on pressure and getting up and down the floor. Also, I do realize that not scoring had a lot to do with setting up a press.

Need a new rule:

Only DJ & Joe Jackson are allowed to block shots.

Can't wait for that not to be an issue next year

Pretty sure we have a adequate front line. What hampers us is the early cheap fouls our bigs get whistled for every crucial game, and our guards inability to stop penetration...Too bad Ferrokan Hall hasnt had more minutes but I think CJP needs to utilize him more early in games to keep our other bigs from getting the quick 2nd foul.

(02-27-2013 09:04 PM)JCraft Wrote:  Need a new rule:

Only DJ & Joe Jackson are allowed to block shots.

As I've posted elsewhere, no one [other than DJ] should be allowed to leave their feet until they have a minimum number of rebounds.

Simple shot fakes are killing us

(02-27-2013 07:31 PM)jgardne Wrote:  I would like for us to try to play big against big teams. Why not put Joe, Geron, Adonis, Shaq, and tarik out there? plenty of perimeter shooting and ballhandling in that lineup

I would like to see it too. Xavier would not have been able to push our frontcourt around with Shaq, Black, and Adonis playing together. We may get fouls but they would too. Xavier would have had a harder time stopping us than we stopping them, especially in the first half when they looked like All Americans. Chris & DJ still could have played 20+ minutes.

Too late to change now IMHO. This should have been a done deal in January if we wanted to perfect it.

Its all a by product of the 4 out 1 in offense, when it works its a beautiful thing. When a opposing capable 6'10 240 body backs down a 6'5 G-F in the lane in a slow deliberate game, its ugly.

bump for btiger to receive his due credit.

Watching Mcgery and Burke operate emphasizes the need to have inside out balance to keep defenses off guard.

yep

(02-27-2013 10:03 AM)btiger Wrote:  It is hard for a team to rely on shooting guards to carry them.

I think Shaq and Black are fine, but we need more bigs to help them out, and we need to be able to have 2 reliable bigs in the game at the same time. Nichols and Iverson don't have to be world beaters, but if we have 2 decent players 6'8 or taller, in at the same time, it will be a huge help.

(03-29-2013 09:33 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  bump for btiger to receive his due credit.

Watching Mcgery and Burke operate emphasizes the need to have inside out balance to keep defenses off guard.

btiger is seldom wrong

(03-30-2013 07:24 AM)btiger Wrote:  

(03-29-2013 09:33 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  bump for btiger to receive his due credit.

Watching Mcgery and Burke operate emphasizes the need to have inside out balance to keep defenses off guard.

btiger is seldom wrong

(03-29-2013 09:33 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  bump for btiger to receive his due credit.

Watching Mcgery and Burke operate emphasizes the need to have inside out balance to keep defenses off guard.

So now you're gonna be the guy that bumps b's posts?

The only thing lamer is bumping your own posts.