Just listened to a couple hacks argue with Pastner....savoy and Gaston.

(02-05-2013 01:32 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Just listened to a couple hacks argue with Pastner....savoy and Gaston.

Yeah, and they made Pastner look foolish.

Pastner was going on and on about how good C-USA teams are, how this era of basketball is different than the 80s and 90s. He said there's parity and everyone can beat you. He said C-USA teams are good, the fans just don't know it.

So Eli politely asked why he was 2-20-something against Top 50 opponents. To which Pastner had no answer.

(02-05-2013 01:37 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(02-05-2013 01:32 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Just listened to a couple hacks argue with Pastner....savoy and Gaston.

Yeah, and they made Pastner look foolish.

Pastner was going on and on about how good C-USA teams are, how this era of basketball is different than the 80s and 90s. He said there's parity and everyone can beat you. He said C-USA teams are good, the fans just don't know it.

So Eli politely asked why he was 2-20-something against Top 50 opponents. To which Pastner had no answer.

Eh, what's he going to do? Bag on his own conference? They were baiting him pretty hard tho. I agree with him on the parity thing. There is more than ever.

WE ruined CUSA. We have completely dominated the league sooo long that it is now considered a bad league, especially if we are not rolling through. Then everyone thinks we all stink, instead of them getting better.
Of course, no one else in the league having a meaningful win might have something to do with it.

(02-05-2013 01:37 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  So Eli politely asked why he was 2-20-something against Top 50 opponents. To which Pastner had no answer.

And this was pleasing for you?

Let alone- he- meaning Pastner, is not 2-20 against top 50 opponents, but I guess it gives some fans excitement to see...again...that under Pastner we have not beaten a ranked at the time team.

But but mimi just the facts.

Yeah...right!

(02-05-2013 01:37 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(02-05-2013 01:32 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  Just listened to a couple hacks argue with Pastner....savoy and Gaston.

Pastner was going on and on about how good C-USA teams are, how this era of basketball is different than the 80s and 90s. He said there's parity and everyone can beat you. He said C-USA teams are good, the fans just don't know it.

I'm sick and tired of some of you guys bringing that up as some kind of knock on Pastner for saying this, when John Calipari was saying pretty much the same thing all the time and that was when Memphis was on a 65+ straight winning streak against CUSA teams. He would always try to claim that CUSA was more than a two-bid team when clearly it wasn't and that the selection committee dont know what they are doing and would always be a cheerleader for Larry Eutaschy and S. Miss and UAB and Tulsa and so on......and I hardly remember any Tiger fan ridiculing Calipari for saying that.

CUSA is 11th out of 33.

Not the ACC.

Not the Big Sky.

Pretty good overall, not easy to win nearly every game (team is 27-3 in their last 30), but, it makes easy pickings for our "fans" to treat the conference the same as the MEAC and to actually get excited when a local hack (even if incorrect) gave it to our coach.

What a great base!!

I have been to many cities with major sports programs, and not once have I ever heard a media member in those cities bag on their city's team as much as it happens here. In those cities, media members want and love to just talk to coaches and get their opinion on things. They praise them on the radio. They do things that promote the program in that city. In Memphis, it is like these hacks are paid to do anything they can to degrade and bash our basketball program. It is sick and disgusting, and something needs to be done about it. I know for a fact Caulkins is paid to find anything negative about the program that he can find. Tommy West fired off about this same issue in his exiting interview, and every coach to ever coach here in a major sport knows exactly what Tommy was talking about. You lose, they bash you. You win, they find something to bash you about. It is sick.

(02-05-2013 09:35 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  I don't know if it's media bias or reality. Every year we say the same thing.

If you look at our ENTIRE conference's "body of work", it's doubtful it's much better than any SINGLE top 25 team.

Southern Miss: Best win RPI 103 Tulsa; 0-4 against top 100 RPI
Memphis: Best win RPI 84 Tennessee; 0-3 against top 75 RPI; 4-0 against 75-100 RPI

Our best CONFERENCE win that I could find was Tulane beating RPI 60 Alabama.


So is it media bias or does our conference NOT deserve any respect? You have to actually play (terrible scheduling) and win against good teams to get respect. I think Memphis has a weak schedule this year, but it's still superior to the rest of the league. We all thought Xavier would be a chance to get a pretty decent win (and I still think it will be a great game), but they haven't had a terrific season.

I can't wait until next year! It sucks that our resume revolves around a very early season tournament and one game against Louisville. Teams in good conferences have a chance for resume building wins throughout the conference season. If we lose one in C-USA we have to be worried about even making the tournament....

UTEP beat Oregon. RPI of 29

(02-05-2013 02:34 PM)Tiger188 Wrote:  I have been to many cities with major sports programs, and not once have I ever heard a media member in those cities bag on their city's team as much as it happens here. In those cities, media members want and love to just talk to coaches and get their opinion on things. They praise them on the radio. They do things that promote the program in that city. In Memphis, it is like these hacks are paid to do anything they can to degrade and bash our basketball program. It is sick and disgusting, and something needs to be done about it. I know for a fact Caulkins is paid to find anything negative about the program that he can find. Tommy West fired off about this same issue in his exiting interview, and every coach to ever coach here in a major sport knows exactly what Tommy was talking about. You lose, they bash you. You win, they find something to bash you about. It is sick.

Dude, there isn't a fanbase in America that DOESN'T think their local media is out to destroy their favorite team.

And the guy's been living here, what...almost 20 years now....and folks around here STILL can't accurately spell "Geoff Calkins".

(02-05-2013 04:12 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  

(02-05-2013 02:34 PM)Tiger188 Wrote:  I have been to many cities with major sports programs, and not once have I ever heard a media member in those cities bag on their city's team as much as it happens here. In those cities, media members want and love to just talk to coaches and get their opinion on things. They praise them on the radio. They do things that promote the program in that city. In Memphis, it is like these hacks are paid to do anything they can to degrade and bash our basketball program. It is sick and disgusting, and something needs to be done about it. I know for a fact Caulkins is paid to find anything negative about the program that he can find. Tommy West fired off about this same issue in his exiting interview, and every coach to ever coach here in a major sport knows exactly what Tommy was talking about. You lose, they bash you. You win, they find something to bash you about. It is sick.

Dude, there isn't a fanbase in America that DOESN'T think their local media is out to destroy their favorite team.

And the guy's been living here, what...almost 20 years now....and folks around here STILL can't accurately spell "Geoff Calkins".

He does not deserve to have his name spelled right.

(02-05-2013 04:12 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  

(02-05-2013 02:34 PM)Tiger188 Wrote:  I have been to many cities with major sports programs, and not once have I ever heard a media member in those cities bag on their city's team as much as it happens here. In those cities, media members want and love to just talk to coaches and get their opinion on things. They praise them on the radio. They do things that promote the program in that city. In Memphis, it is like these hacks are paid to do anything they can to degrade and bash our basketball program. It is sick and disgusting, and something needs to be done about it. I know for a fact Caulkins is paid to find anything negative about the program that he can find. Tommy West fired off about this same issue in his exiting interview, and every coach to ever coach here in a major sport knows exactly what Tommy was talking about. You lose, they bash you. You win, they find something to bash you about. It is sick.

Dude, there isn't a fanbase in America that DOESN'T think their local media is out to destroy their favorite team.

And the guy's been living here, what...almost 20 years now....and folks around here STILL can't accurately spell "Geoff Calkins".

He does not deserve to have his name spelled right.

We left our bragging rights in the Bahamas. Not fair but it is what it is.

(02-04-2013 11:20 PM)JMSTiger Wrote:  My attempts at stirring up anger at media hacks is clearly not working. I give up.

If those media hacks actually registered on the 'give a F' radar, it might.

As it stands, half the 'columnists' at ESPN are no talent losers

(02-05-2013 05:09 PM)Tony85 Wrote:  We left our bragging rights in the Bahamas. Not fair but it is what it is.

Speak for yourself.

Not sure we need to feel compelled to be dismissive of our own team.

Sorry to those who essentially gave up on the season after the 4th game in November. While we cannot replay those early games, you are allowed to be proud, supportive and enthusiastic about Memphis and our team.

Do not need to be an apologist.

(02-05-2013 09:46 AM)Original Sabretooth Wrote:  The problem with our conference is no one in the current configuration, outside of Memphis, has won an NCAA tournament game since 2004. Additionally, there are no regular season marquee wins. Butler, Gonzaga, St Mary's, Xavier... they've all won on a national stage. Fans are familiar with them. USM, as good as they may be this year, has yet to give anyone in the media anything to go on. This league needs to win some big games out of conference.

UAB beat Kentucky in 2006.

I think some are missing the point.

The media doesn't take shots at the other mid majors when talking about their games. They just report on the teams and their records and talk about an important game.

When they talk about CUSA, they go out of their way to point and say "that conference over there sucks real bad".

And yet CUSA is rated higher than most of the mid major conferences. AND has bigger stronger and more talented athletes. Ever watch a few of Gonzaga's conference games? Or Harvard? Or even some UNLV games?lot of short, slower, smaller players everywhere.

There is a bias built in there. Whether its intentional or not, it happens regualrly.

(02-05-2013 05:28 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  I think some are missing the point.

The media doesn't take shots at the other mid majors when talking about their games. They just report on the teams and their records and talk about an important game.

When they talk about CUSA, they go out of their way to point and say "that conference over there sucks real bad".

And yet CUSA is rated higher than most of the mid major conferences. AND has bigger stronger and more talented athletes. Ever watch a few of Gonzaga's conference games? Or Harvard? Or even some UNLV games?lot of short, slower, smaller players everywhere.

There is a bias built in there. Whether its intentional or not, it happens regualrly.

They do take every possible chance to take shots at CUSA.

Part of that is tv deal. If CUSA was an ESPN conference, ESPN would talk better about CUSA and then it would roll downhill. Instead ESPN bashes it and every other wannabe in the nation follows suit.

Now, it also doesnt help at all that every single time one of the "prominent" talking heads jumps on our bandwagon we go down in flames. As soon as a talking head starts picking a CUSA team to do something, putting his/her rep at stake, we drop the ball.

How many times has Gottlieb picked against us over and over and over and finally say something like "Ok, I have to go with Memphis, they have proven themselves" and then boom we lose the next game. Has a CUSA team even won a game in the tournament in the past 4 years? Seems like I remember last season or the season before that every CUSA lost their first round game whether NCAA/NIT/CBI etc.

One problem that C-USA has is that, other than Memphis, the rest of the league doesn't schedule home & home deals, they schedule "buy-games", take the payday and go on the road. It's no wonder they lose most of their non-conference games.

You would think that Tulsa would get OU or Ok State at home, Marshall would get WVU or Pitt in Huntington, UCF would get Florida or FSU in Orlando, or ECU would get UNC or NCState in Greenville. That almost never happens. We are the only team in C-USA that can get someone like Louisville, Arizona or Georgetown to come to Memphis for a game.

(02-05-2013 05:21 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  

(02-05-2013 09:46 AM)Original Sabretooth Wrote:  The problem with our conference is no one in the current configuration, outside of Memphis, has won an NCAA tournament game since 2004. Additionally, there are no regular season marquee wins. Butler, Gonzaga, St Mary's, Xavier... they've all won on a national stage. Fans are familiar with them. USM, as good as they may be this year, has yet to give anyone in the media anything to go on. This league needs to win some big games out of conference.

UAB beat Kentucky in 2006.

Finding CUSA wins in the NCAA's is akin to locating the proverbial needle in a haystack. Nice find.