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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
(12-02-2012 06:27 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Some people do not understand the elite nature of NCAA D-I basketball. There are only about 4,200 D-1 players drawing from the college age population of the US and - to some extent - the world. The players have spent most of their life dedicated to the game and usually were stars at the high school level.
Judging from our first four games, I'd say that included some people wearing Tiger uniforms.
(12-02-2012 06:27 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: I watch Lipscomb University games in person once or twice a year and get to sit near courtside. I am always impressed by the speed and skill displayed by players at the lower end of NCAA D-I. I would be lucky even in my prime to not turn the ball over every time I touched it.
At this point, that's probably an opinion shared by several for the aforementioned group.
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
(12-02-2012 06:27 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (12-02-2012 04:38 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote: (12-02-2012 03:17 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote: He's shooting 11% from 3. I could shoot 11% from 3 and I haven't picked up a basketball in 10 years.
This is my pet peeve ... "I could shoot 11%" or "I could get 2 rebounds" or whatever.
First, you (you in general, not JUST you Niedermayer) suck. So, YOU, are not good enough to see the floor to deserve the attempt at 11% or 2 rebounds, or whatever the assertion.
Second, even if you did get the attempt, you couldn't shoot 11%, or get 2 rebounds, or whatever. This is HIGH LEVEL college basketball, this isn't a church league, people are busting their asses out there to make sure that you don't get an open look, or grab a rebound. I used to be a pretty good shooter back in the day, but I was also pretty slow. On the few occasions I played against really great competition, I got dominated, and I had trouble getting any shot, much less an open 3.
So, no, you could not shoot 11%.
Some people do not understand the elite nature of NCAA D-I basketball. There are only about 4,200 D-1 players drawing from the college age population of the US and - to some extent - the world. The players have spent most of their life dedicated to the game and usually were stars at the high school level.
I watch Lipscomb University games in person once or twice a year and get to sit near courtside. I am always impressed by the speed and skill displayed by players at the lower end of NCAA D-I. I would be lucky even in my prime to not turn the ball over every time I touched it.
It is completely different watching a game from courtside than from way up high, or even on TV. I think if most of the folks around this forum had more of an opportunity to actually see the effort (close up) involved in playing college basketball they wouldn't be so quick to criticize the players.
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
I don't think Adonis should ever shoot another 3
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(12-02-2012 04:07 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote: Not ridiculous. It's called a fact. He's 2 for 18. That equals 11%.
I know it sounds ridiculous that a "future lottery pick" could be shooting 11% from 3 but it's a fact.
It's all about shot selection. Adonis hasn't figured it out yet.
(This post was last modified: 12-02-2012 08:35 PM by ItsDude.)
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
(12-02-2012 08:19 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote: (12-02-2012 06:27 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (12-02-2012 04:38 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote: (12-02-2012 03:17 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote: He's shooting 11% from 3. I could shoot 11% from 3 and I haven't picked up a basketball in 10 years.
This is my pet peeve ... "I could shoot 11%" or "I could get 2 rebounds" or whatever.
First, you (you in general, not JUST you Niedermayer) suck. So, YOU, are not good enough to see the floor to deserve the attempt at 11% or 2 rebounds, or whatever the assertion.
Second, even if you did get the attempt, you couldn't shoot 11%, or get 2 rebounds, or whatever. This is HIGH LEVEL college basketball, this isn't a church league, people are busting their asses out there to make sure that you don't get an open look, or grab a rebound. I used to be a pretty good shooter back in the day, but I was also pretty slow. On the few occasions I played against really great competition, I got dominated, and I had trouble getting any shot, much less an open 3.
So, no, you could not shoot 11%.
Some people do not understand the elite nature of NCAA D-I basketball. There are only about 4,200 D-1 players drawing from the college age population of the US and - to some extent - the world. The players have spent most of their life dedicated to the game and usually were stars at the high school level.
I watch Lipscomb University games in person once or twice a year and get to sit near courtside. I am always impressed by the speed and skill displayed by players at the lower end of NCAA D-I. I would be lucky even in my prime to not turn the ball over every time I touched it.
It is completely different watching a game from courtside than from way up high, or even on TV. I think if most of the folks around this forum had more of an opportunity to actually see the effort (close up) involved in playing college basketball they wouldn't be so quick to criticize the players.
I was lucky enough to see the game the Tigers played against UALR in then Alltel Arena here in Little Rock. I sat in the second row behind the Tigers bench. The speed and size of the players in that game ON BOTH SIDES was awe inspiring......I could not believehow fast the college game has become, you just cannot tell on TV or from up high.
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
(12-02-2012 08:42 PM)Chi-Town Wrote: (12-02-2012 08:19 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote: (12-02-2012 06:27 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (12-02-2012 04:38 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote: (12-02-2012 03:17 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote: He's shooting 11% from 3. I could shoot 11% from 3 and I haven't picked up a basketball in 10 years.
This is my pet peeve ... "I could shoot 11%" or "I could get 2 rebounds" or whatever.
First, you (you in general, not JUST you Niedermayer) suck. So, YOU, are not good enough to see the floor to deserve the attempt at 11% or 2 rebounds, or whatever the assertion.
Second, even if you did get the attempt, you couldn't shoot 11%, or get 2 rebounds, or whatever. This is HIGH LEVEL college basketball, this isn't a church league, people are busting their asses out there to make sure that you don't get an open look, or grab a rebound. I used to be a pretty good shooter back in the day, but I was also pretty slow. On the few occasions I played against really great competition, I got dominated, and I had trouble getting any shot, much less an open 3.
So, no, you could not shoot 11%.
Some people do not understand the elite nature of NCAA D-I basketball. There are only about 4,200 D-1 players drawing from the college age population of the US and - to some extent - the world. The players have spent most of their life dedicated to the game and usually were stars at the high school level.
I watch Lipscomb University games in person once or twice a year and get to sit near courtside. I am always impressed by the speed and skill displayed by players at the lower end of NCAA D-I. I would be lucky even in my prime to not turn the ball over every time I touched it.
It is completely different watching a game from courtside than from way up high, or even on TV. I think if most of the folks around this forum had more of an opportunity to actually see the effort (close up) involved in playing college basketball they wouldn't be so quick to criticize the players.
I was lucky enough to see the game the Tigers played against UALR in then Alltel Arena here in Little Rock. I sat in the second row behind the Tigers bench. The speed and size of the players in that game ON BOTH SIDES was awe inspiring......I could not believehow fast the college game has become, you just cannot tell on TV or from up high.
pfftttt.....Neidermeyer could knock down 3's all day.
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
I'm for Adonis and Geron displaying their entire repertoire... making 3's makes driving the ball much easier. Shoot the rock young lads!!!
(This post was last modified: 12-02-2012 10:24 PM by Dat.B.Me.)
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
I guarantee you that I could hit some 3's and shoot better than 11% against the Tiger defense I have seen so far this year..And this ain't no joke it's a fact..This is purely based on what I've seen so far..If our defense plays better D in future games then my opinion might change!!
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12-03-2012 08:56 AM |
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
(12-03-2012 08:56 AM)tigergg Wrote: I guarantee you that I could hit some 3's and shoot better than 11% against the Tiger defense I have seen so far this year..And this ain't no joke it's a fact..This is purely based on what I've seen so far..If our defense plays better D in future games then my opinion might change!!
Yeah those are wide open 3's
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
(12-02-2012 09:25 PM)TigerSeth Wrote: (12-02-2012 08:42 PM)Chi-Town Wrote: (12-02-2012 08:19 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote: (12-02-2012 06:27 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (12-02-2012 04:38 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote: This is my pet peeve ... "I could shoot 11%" or "I could get 2 rebounds" or whatever.
First, you (you in general, not JUST you Niedermayer) suck. So, YOU, are not good enough to see the floor to deserve the attempt at 11% or 2 rebounds, or whatever the assertion.
Second, even if you did get the attempt, you couldn't shoot 11%, or get 2 rebounds, or whatever. This is HIGH LEVEL college basketball, this isn't a church league, people are busting their asses out there to make sure that you don't get an open look, or grab a rebound. I used to be a pretty good shooter back in the day, but I was also pretty slow. On the few occasions I played against really great competition, I got dominated, and I had trouble getting any shot, much less an open 3.
So, no, you could not shoot 11%.
Some people do not understand the elite nature of NCAA D-I basketball. There are only about 4,200 D-1 players drawing from the college age population of the US and - to some extent - the world. The players have spent most of their life dedicated to the game and usually were stars at the high school level.
I watch Lipscomb University games in person once or twice a year and get to sit near courtside. I am always impressed by the speed and skill displayed by players at the lower end of NCAA D-I. I would be lucky even in my prime to not turn the ball over every time I touched it.
It is completely different watching a game from courtside than from way up high, or even on TV. I think if most of the folks around this forum had more of an opportunity to actually see the effort (close up) involved in playing college basketball they wouldn't be so quick to criticize the players.
I was lucky enough to see the game the Tigers played against UALR in then Alltel Arena here in Little Rock. I sat in the second row behind the Tigers bench. The speed and size of the players in that game ON BOTH SIDES was awe inspiring......I could not believehow fast the college game has become, you just cannot tell on TV or from up high.
pfftttt.....Neidermeyer could knock down 3's all day.
Nah, I couldn't knock em down all day or even shoot a high percentage. But I could dam sure shoot 11% like our "future lottery pick" is doing. FACT.
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12-03-2012 09:18 AM |
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Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
Your disregard for statistical significance and for reality in general is embarrassing
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
(12-03-2012 09:52 AM)lenetzach Wrote: Your disregard for statistical significance and for reality in general is embarrassing
lol
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
Getting back to the real world, if the Tigers play D like they have been and Ohio shoots close to there % from the arc, it could be ugly..Unless our D picks it up they will have open looks all night..
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12-03-2012 10:12 AM |
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
I'll dunk on everyone here.
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12-03-2012 10:25 AM |
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
(12-03-2012 09:52 AM)lenetzach Wrote: Your disregard for statistical significance and for reality in general is embarrassing
HAHA
What's embarrassing is you trying to say 18 3 point attempts isn't a big enough of a sample size to tell you anything.
YOU GIVE ME 18 ATTEMPTS AND I WILL KNOCK DOWN AT LEAST 7.....FACT.
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12-03-2012 10:35 AM |
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
(12-02-2012 04:56 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote: Uh hunh.
Aren't you like 5'6 and overweight?
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12-03-2012 10:51 AM |
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
(12-03-2012 10:35 AM)Neidermeyer Wrote: (12-03-2012 09:52 AM)lenetzach Wrote: Your disregard for statistical significance and for reality in general is embarrassing
HAHA
What's embarrassing is you trying to say 18 3 point attempts isn't a big enough of a sample size to tell you anything.
YOU GIVE ME 18 ATTEMPTS AND I WILL KNOCK DOWN AT LEAST 7.....FACT.
Not in a game-time situation, brah. Lot's of your jump shots sent into the 5th row.
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
This will not be a blowout either way...book it.
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12-03-2012 10:59 AM |
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
(12-03-2012 10:59 AM)Dmalice Wrote: This will not be a blowout either way...book it.
Should we win, only Gonzaga in 2010-2011 and Belmont in 2011-2012 will be better wins (statistically, according to kenpom).
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
7.
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RE: Ohio Beaten by Robert Morris
(12-03-2012 11:06 AM)Neidermeyer Wrote: 7.
Raindrops.
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