(12-02-2012 12:48 PM)Tgrrfan Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 10:46 AM)Dat.B.Me Wrote:  If we don't defend the 3 ball well it will be a difficult nite. However, if the Tigers defend and score from the arc they are almost unbeatable. We know how well Adonis and Geron were shooting 3's during the pre season. Their current stats of 11% and 14% from the arc tells me the best is yet to come.

I don't think Adonis should ever shoot another 3

If he makes them in practice, then it is a matter of time and confidence before he makes them. We cannot afford to shelf any viable weapon.

(12-02-2012 09:02 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 02:58 AM)MGR Wrote:  Awesome. A #7 seed is getting harder to reach all the time.

Wow, Mr Glass half empty guy here. We could still lose 5 more games and get a 7 seed.

Not sure about that...

It depends on how good/bad C-USA is this year...

(12-02-2012 01:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 12:48 PM)Tgrrfan Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 10:46 AM)Dat.B.Me Wrote:  If we don't defend the 3 ball well it will be a difficult nite. However, if the Tigers defend and score from the arc they are almost unbeatable. We know how well Adonis and Geron were shooting 3's during the pre season. Their current stats of 11% and 14% from the arc tells me the best is yet to come.

I don't think Adonis should ever shoot another 3

If he makes them in practice, then it is a matter of time and confidence before he makes them. We cannot afford to shelf any viable weapon.

DBHooper used to make 'em in practice, too.

(12-02-2012 01:36 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 01:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 12:48 PM)Tgrrfan Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 10:46 AM)Dat.B.Me Wrote:  If we don't defend the 3 ball well it will be a difficult nite. However, if the Tigers defend and score from the arc they are almost unbeatable. We know how well Adonis and Geron were shooting 3's during the pre season. Their current stats of 11% and 14% from the arc tells me the best is yet to come.

I don't think Adonis should ever shoot another 3

If he makes them in practice, then it is a matter of time and confidence before he makes them. We cannot afford to shelf any viable weapon.

DBHooper used to make 'em in practice, too.

Are you stating that it would be better for AT and the team for him not to attempt threes in games that he makes in practice and last year at a 40.5% rate?

AT can shoot fine

It's just shot selection learning curve as he adjusts to playing more on the wing

(12-02-2012 01:53 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 01:36 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 01:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 12:48 PM)Tgrrfan Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 10:46 AM)Dat.B.Me Wrote:  If we don't defend the 3 ball well it will be a difficult nite. However, if the Tigers defend and score from the arc they are almost unbeatable. We know how well Adonis and Geron were shooting 3's during the pre season. Their current stats of 11% and 14% from the arc tells me the best is yet to come.

I don't think Adonis should ever shoot another 3

If he makes them in practice, then it is a matter of time and confidence before he makes them. We cannot afford to shelf any viable weapon.

DBHooper used to make 'em in practice, too.

Are you stating that it would be better for AT and the team for him not to attempt threes in games that he makes in practice and last year at a 40.5% rate?

Nope. Just noting that making them in practice can be a misleading indicator of a player's in-game ability.

Personally, I think Pastner should tell Adonis for every 3 pointer he throws up, he has to make 2 drives to the basket. He could use flashcards to help Adonis keep track of his drive count.

He's shooting 11% from 3. I could shoot 11% from 3 and I haven't picked up a basketball in 10 years.

(12-02-2012 03:17 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote:  He's shooting 11% from 3. I could shoot 11% from 3 and I haven't picked up a basketball in 10 years.

Ridiculous

Not ridiculous. It's called a fact. He's 2 for 18. That equals 11%.

I know it sounds ridiculous that a "future lottery pick" could be shooting 11% from 3 but it's a fact.

(12-02-2012 02:05 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 01:53 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 01:36 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 01:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 12:48 PM)Tgrrfan Wrote:  I don't think Adonis should ever shoot another 3

If he makes them in practice, then it is a matter of time and confidence before he makes them. We cannot afford to shelf any viable weapon.

DBHooper used to make 'em in practice, too.

Are you stating that it would be better for AT and the team for him not to attempt threes in games that he makes in practice and last year at a 40.5% rate?

Nope. Just noting that making them in practice can be a misleading indicator of a player's in-game ability.

Personally, I think Pastner should tell Adonis for every 3 pointer he throws up, he has to make 2 drives to the basket. He could use flashcards to help Adonis keep track of his drive count.

Got a nice chuckle on the flashcard comment.

(12-02-2012 03:17 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote:  He's shooting 11% from 3. I could shoot 11% from 3 and I haven't picked up a basketball in 10 years.

This is my pet peeve ... "I could shoot 11%" or "I could get 2 rebounds" or whatever.

First, you (you in general, not JUST you Niedermayer) suck. So, YOU, are not good enough to see the floor to deserve the attempt at 11% or 2 rebounds, or whatever the assertion.

Second, even if you did get the attempt, you couldn't shoot 11%, or get 2 rebounds, or whatever. This is HIGH LEVEL college basketball, this isn't a church league, people are busting their asses out there to make sure that you don't get an open look, or grab a rebound. I used to be a pretty good shooter back in the day, but I was also pretty slow. On the few occasions I played against really great competition, I got dominated, and I had trouble getting any shot, much less an open 3.

So, no, you could not shoot 11%.

(12-02-2012 04:19 PM)MGR Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 02:05 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 01:53 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 01:36 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 01:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  If he makes them in practice, then it is a matter of time and confidence before he makes them. We cannot afford to shelf any viable weapon.

DBHooper used to make 'em in practice, too.

Are you stating that it would be better for AT and the team for him not to attempt threes in games that he makes in practice and last year at a 40.5% rate?

Nope. Just noting that making them in practice can be a misleading indicator of a player's in-game ability.

Personally, I think Pastner should tell Adonis for every 3 pointer he throws up, he has to make 2 drives to the basket. He could use flashcards to help Adonis keep track of his drive count.

Got a nice chuckle on the flashcard comment.

Please do not chuckle. It will only encourage him. Thank you for your cooperation.

Yes I could.

(12-02-2012 03:17 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote:  He's shooting 11% from 3. I could shoot 11% from 3 and I haven't picked up a basketball in 10 years.

No, you couldn't.

Uh hunh.

Kenpom has Ohio ranked 37, and Memphis ranked 38

http://www.kenpom.com


Check out Minnesota ranked #9.

(12-02-2012 04:07 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote:  Not ridiculous. It's called a fact. He's 2 for 18. That equals 11%.

I know it sounds ridiculous that a "future lottery pick" could be shooting 11% from 3 but it's a fact.

1. Sample size - when 5 or 6 shots can change the result by around 20%, percentages are not worth much

2. Re your earlier statement, you wouldn't get a shot off

3. Shooting % don't exist in a vacuum . I already told you he was taking too many bad shots and it looks like he was making some bad decisions on shot selection while adjusting to spending more time at the 3. His % last year speaks to ability

1. I wish he had made 5 or 6 more. To say percentages aren't worth much is "ridiculous".

2. LOL

3. Not doubting his ability. I just don't think he has very much pro potential.

(12-02-2012 04:38 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 03:17 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote:  He's shooting 11% from 3. I could shoot 11% from 3 and I haven't picked up a basketball in 10 years.

This is my pet peeve ... "I could shoot 11%" or "I could get 2 rebounds" or whatever.

First, you (you in general, not JUST you Niedermayer) suck. So, YOU, are not good enough to see the floor to deserve the attempt at 11% or 2 rebounds, or whatever the assertion.

Second, even if you did get the attempt, you couldn't shoot 11%, or get 2 rebounds, or whatever. This is HIGH LEVEL college basketball, this isn't a church league, people are busting their asses out there to make sure that you don't get an open look, or grab a rebound. I used to be a pretty good shooter back in the day, but I was also pretty slow. On the few occasions I played against really great competition, I got dominated, and I had trouble getting any shot, much less an open 3.

So, no, you could not shoot 11%.

Some people do not understand the elite nature of NCAA D-I basketball. There are only about 4,200 D-1 players drawing from the college age population of the US and - to some extent - the world. The players have spent most of their life dedicated to the game and usually were stars at the high school level.

I watch Lipscomb University games in person once or twice a year and get to sit near courtside. I am always impressed by the speed and skill displayed by players at the lower end of NCAA D-I. I would be lucky even in my prime to not turn the ball over every time I touched it.

(12-02-2012 06:21 PM)Neidermeyer Wrote:  1. I wish he had made 5 or 6 more. To say percentages aren't worth much is "ridiculous".

2. LOL

3. Not doubting his ability. I just don't think he has very much pro potential.

You couldn't hit squat dude so stfu.