(11-30-2012 04:30 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(11-30-2012 04:28 PM)7fielder Wrote:  

(11-30-2012 04:23 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(11-30-2012 03:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Interesting find: 2 years ago a TV network guy shared analysis of the relative value of potential B1G expansion teams (LINK). He ranked them in this order (remember, this is their value to BTN, not nationally):

1) Texas (duh)
2) Rutgers (done deal)
3 Nebraska (done deal)
4 Maryland (done deal)
5) Boston College
6) Notre Dame (duh, but already in footprint)
7) Kansas
8) Missouri
9) Syracuse

NOTE: Everyone below Syracuse was projected as a money-loser or money-neutral for BTN. Remember, these guys are convinced that they need content (BC hockey and KU basketball, e.g.) and they need cable subscribers (Boston and Kansas City)

Makes you wonder whether Delany and Swofford are in cahoots?

Yeah really! I mean, we lose MD and gain Louisville. If the BIG strikes again according to these facts it will be Kansas and BC. In the ACC's case, if you lose BC, then you gain Uconn.

Sorry, I don't see any conceivable way the ACC extending a membership invitation to UConn is in any way a gain.

I agree w/ Cat. If it goes down this way (please, please, PLEASE let the Big Ten take BC!), then Swofford better be on the phone to Cincinnati before BC can say "we're outa here". (BTW, #10 on the Big Ten wish list is UConn anyway... funny, they are lower than BC)

I only mentioned Uconn due to it's TV footprint being a wash in terms of Uconn. As far as recruiting grounds, fan interaction and overall football program I greatly prefer the Bearcats.

I hope we stay away from UConn. Who knows what'll happen though... USF and Cincy are still out there, but neither of those are too appealing either.

(11-30-2012 04:46 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  I hope we stay away from UConn. Who knows what'll happen though... USF and Cincy are still out there, but neither of those are too appealing either.

Well, there's always Navy!

(11-30-2012 04:38 PM)7fielder Wrote:  Cincinnati then?

Certainly.


Teams I would take before UConn (in order):

Cincy
Tulane
South Florida
Central Florida
East Carolina
Marshall
Memphis
UAB
Furman
Wofford
Appalachian State
Georgia Southern
The Citadel
Coastal Carolina
SC State
Elon
Samford
Newberry
Mars Hill
Valdosta State
North Alabama
Byrnes High School
Gaffney High School
Byrnes High School JV
Byrnes High School B Team
Summerville High School
Specialty Concrete Products Wildcats (My son's 12-13 year old youth team...league champs this year)

(11-30-2012 04:44 PM)7fielder Wrote:  I only mentioned Uconn due to it's TV footprint being a wash in terms of Uconn. As far as recruiting grounds, fan interaction and overall football program I greatly prefer the Bearcats.

We have done the "TV footprint thing" and we are still the lowest paid Big 5 conference by a sizable margin behind conferences that don't have anywhere near the TV markets we have. That should scream out "IT'S NOT ABOUT MARKETS!!" If markets were all that then the original CUSA should have had a huge TV contract.

Add teams that actually will contribute something athletically and the long term health of a conference is better off. Louisville is the first meaningful football move the ACC planned to make since adding Miami.

No, wait, Cat... you forgot the powderpuff girls team! They could dress up all in pink, and UNC in their baby blue...

(11-30-2012 04:54 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  No, wait, Cat... you forgot the powderpuff girls team! They could dress up all in pink, and UNC in their baby blue...

We already have UNC and UVA.

And honestly Summerville High School would be higher up the list if John McKissick wasn't 86 years old. Don't underestimate the Summerville/Ridgeville/Pringletown media market.

(11-30-2012 04:49 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  Teams I would take before UConn (in order):

Newberry

Wow. That's lowwwww man. And frankly, I'd take Byrnes and Gaffney to beat Newberry straight up. No joke.

This is just getting sad, Georgia Tech in the Big Ten? I don't see how they fit in with a bunch of midwestern elitists.

(11-30-2012 04:49 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(11-30-2012 04:38 PM)7fielder Wrote:  Cincinnati then?

Certainly.


Teams I would take before UConn (in order):

Cincy
Tulane
South Florida
Central Florida
East Carolina
Marshall
Memphis
UAB
Furman
Wofford
Appalachian State
Georgia Southern
The Citadel
Coastal Carolina
SC State
Elon
Samford
Newberry
Mars Hill
Valdosta State
North Alabama
Byrnes High School
Gaffney High School
Byrnes High School JV
Byrnes High School B Team
Summerville High School
Specialty Concrete Products Wildcats (My son's 12-13 year old youth team...league champs this year)

This made me laugh. I agree with you that UConn adds nothing, but this was a funny way of saying it! Kudos and rep points!

(11-30-2012 05:12 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(11-30-2012 04:49 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  Teams I would take before UConn (in order):

Newberry

Wow. That's lowwwww man. And frankly, I'd take Byrnes and Gaffney to beat Newberry straight up. No joke.

Maybe last year and this year. Much like Clemson Newberry has been taking a lot of lumps the past few years playing freshmen and sophomores. That changes next year. W.T. Murden is one heck of an athlete (3 star rivals recruit). Had he not been insistent on playing QB he likely would be at a DI school right now playing WR or TE. Their RB Dureal Elmore is one of those kids that was overlooked because of measurables (5'9" 170lbs 4.6 40) but is a player when you put the pads on. Both of them are sophomores.

I really can't wait to see what true freshman WR Jalen Cook does as he gains experience and playing time. I went to school with his dad, and got to watch Jalen first hand. He was overshadowed in HS by Shaq Roland (not many players wouldn't be) but Jalen was a key cog in Lexington's offense for a few years.

I still don't believe any of it.

(11-30-2012 06:30 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  I still don't believe any of it.

What? That I would take Newberry before UConn? Believe it.

At least with Newberry the kids can have fun chasing the extra points and field goal kicks in the graveyard next to Setzler Field

I say bring in Cincinnati anyway and if needed as a replacement school ,one of UConn, Memphis, USF to 16/17 with ND. This would give a cushion should someone itch for what They think are greener pastures. ND might be 8 to 10 years away from a FB commitment anyway. You take out a potential Big 12 invite in UC and if ND jumps in down the road for Football, then You have 16 anyway if not needing one of the others. UC would commit to expanding Nippert or just move Games to PBS. There's talk of a new Arena on the Campus or Riverfront/Downtown.

(11-30-2012 04:28 PM)7fielder Wrote:  

(11-30-2012 04:23 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(11-30-2012 03:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Interesting find: 2 years ago a TV network guy shared analysis of the relative value of potential B1G expansion teams (LINK). He ranked them in this order (remember, this is their value to BTN, not nationally):

1) Texas (duh)
2) Rutgers (done deal)
3 Nebraska (done deal)
4 Maryland (done deal)
5) Boston College
6) Notre Dame (duh, but already in footprint)
7) Kansas
8) Missouri
9) Syracuse

NOTE: Everyone below Syracuse was projected as a money-loser or money-neutral for BTN. Remember, these guys are convinced that they need content (BC hockey and KU basketball, e.g.) and they need cable subscribers (Boston and Kansas City)

Makes you wonder whether Delany and Swofford are in cahoots?

Yeah really! I mean, we lose MD and gain Louisville. If the BIG strikes again according to these facts it will be Kansas and BC. In the ACC's case, if you lose BC, then you gain Uconn.

If you lose BC you gain Cincinnati. That's a good trade!

Actually Louisville for Maryland was a good trade too.

(11-30-2012 06:34 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(11-30-2012 06:30 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  I still don't believe any of it.

What? That I would take Newberry before UConn? Believe it.

At least with Newberry the kids can have fun chasing the extra points and field goal kicks in the graveyard next to Setzler Field

Almost nobody here will get that ... but that's funny **** right there.

(11-30-2012 04:49 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(11-30-2012 04:38 PM)7fielder Wrote:  Cincinnati then?

Certainly.


Teams I would take before UConn (in order):

Cincy
Tulane
South Florida
Central Florida
East Carolina
Marshall
Memphis
UAB
Furman
Wofford
Appalachian State
Georgia Southern
The Citadel
Coastal Carolina
SC State
Elon
Samford
Newberry
Mars Hill
Valdosta State
North Alabama
Byrnes High School
Gaffney High School
Byrnes High School JV
Byrnes High School B Team
Summerville High School
Specialty Concrete Products Wildcats (My son's 12-13 year old youth team...league champs this year)

Cat... you have a 12 year old? I thought you were older than that? Didn't you serve the Confederate army during the War of Northern Aggression?

(11-30-2012 06:56 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(11-30-2012 06:34 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(11-30-2012 06:30 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  I still don't believe any of it.

What? That I would take Newberry before UConn? Believe it.

At least with Newberry the kids can have fun chasing the extra points and field goal kicks in the graveyard next to Setzler Field

Almost nobody here will get that ... but that's funny **** right there.

Hey man, I'm Lutheran. There were a bunch of Saturdays growing up we would rush away from Clemson to make the Newberry game that night.