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SEIU blocked the street yesterday morning. LAX advised departing passengers to add an extra 90 minutes onto the standard two-hour prior to departure recommendation.

Travelers headed to LAX on Wednesday afternoon – one of the airport's busiest days of the year – saw hundreds of purple-clad union workers lining Century Boulevard.

Airport officials had warned passengers to arrive well more than the advised two hours ahead of time because of expected traffic delays caused by a march organized by a local branch of the Service Employees International Union.

A spokeswoman for LAX said traffic flow was returning to normal after 2 p.m. and there had been no reports of flight delays or passengers missing departures.

Thirteen protesters who sat in the roadway were arrested, according to the Los Angeles Police Department.

The workers were protesting what they say are unfair labor practices by an airport contractor that provides passenger services such as baggage handling and ticket verification.

A march was scheduled from noon to 2 p.m., resulting in the phased closures of westbound Century Boulevard between Airport and Sepulveda boulevards, and northbound Sepulveda between Imperial Highway and 98th Street. Early arrival for travelers was suggested between 11 a.m. and 4 p.m.

Police on horseback and foot accompanied the marchers. Protesters stopped at the Century and Sepulveda boulevards, where police made pre-arranged arrests after issuing an order to disperse.

The protest comes after about 400 workers for Aviation Safeguards at Los Angeles International Airport were left without a contract earlier this year and no longer have health insurance, according to SEIU, which represents janitors, wheelchair attendants, skycaps, security guards.

"They just walked away from the contract, leaving the workers without health care, without protection of a contract," said SEIU representative Ernesto Guerrero.

The event, dubbed the Century Progress March, was announced last Friday.

On Tuesday, Aviation Services went on the offensive, reaching out to media and saying its workers were not part of the march.

The company, a unit of Command Security Corp. of Parsippany, N.J., released a statement signed by its workers saying they voted to end their affiliation with SEIU.

"We have no beef with the company or the airport. Our beef is with the union. Most of the protesters on Wednesday will not even be LAX workers. They don’t work here and they don’t know our company," said Andres Cazares, an Aviation Safeguards employee since 1993, in a statement. "The employees of Aviation Safeguards are planning to work, and we are extremely confident that our colleagues will be there for every shift."


Company Regional Vice President Joe Conlon said in the statement that employees were "free to rejoin SEIU at any time."

Conlin told NBC4 the company's employees were free to participate in Wednesday's action, but said only three Aviation Safeguards workers had participated in the most recent protest.

While airport officials had advised people to arrive two hours in advance of domestic flights and three hours before international flights, they suggested that people driving to LAX between 11 a.m. and 4 p.m. add about 90 minutes to their travel time.

More than 1.792 million passengers -- a 0.3 percent increase over last year -- are expected to pass through LAX over the Thanksgiving holiday travel period, which began last Friday and ends Monday, airport officials said. LAX is expected to be second only to Chicago-O'Hare International Airport in passenger volume.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/...00401.html
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(11-20-2012 04:21 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  SEIU Workers at LAX Threaten Thanksgiving Eve Strike

LAX employees are threatening to strike over being denied healthcare on Thanksgiving eve, the busiest travel holiday of the year.

A coalition of labor and community leaders is calling for the protest of alleged violations by LAX contractor Aviation Safeguards for breaking a healthcare contract with the airport earlier this year.

Andrew Gross-Gaitan, the director of the Southern California Airports Division, told KNX 1070 News Radio that Aviation Safeguards left more than 400 LAX workers without affordable family health care when it failed to comply with the city’s Living Wage Ordinance.

“When people’s lives are on the line, their family members are on the line, they’re not going to be able to enjoy their Thanksgiving,” said Andrew Gross-Gaitan.

“This is really a critical moment for thousands of workers.

“We’re looking at thousands of workers who may face their family benefits being cut,” Andrew Gross-Gaitan added.

“There is one worker whose wife is literally dying of liver cancer, and this has been going on for close to a year. The families of these workers are really in crisis.”

As many as 1,000 airport workers and union supporters are expected to march on Century Boulevard just as an estimated 1.8 million passengers are expected to travel through LAX over the holiday weekend,CBS reports.

Last May, an estimated 1,200 LAX employees protesting unfair labor laws, picketed outside the airport and prevented passengers from entering.

Andrew Gross-Gaitan said there is definite potential for severe disruptions to airport operations during the protest.

“It’s entirely possible there will be significant travel delays,” he said.

Martin Terrones, Communications Coordinator for the labor union United Service Workers West, downplayed the event.

“It’s not really a strike or a walkout,” he told L.A. Weekly.

“But it is going to be an action none the less.”

http://www.bellenews.com/2012/11/18/trav...z2Cnga9jf4

I thought you meant that the company who violated the contract where they said they would provide health care should be beaten to a pulp.
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(11-20-2012 05:19 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  So people should be forced to work against their will? I personally wouldn't partake in such a job action, and have crossed a picket line in the past, but why should they be "beaten to a pulp"? The owners of the businesses get a free pass to join together and form organizations like the US Chamber of Commerce, why can't the workers do the same? If the employers don't like it, don't give in and hire scabs. Not a particularly difficult situation to overcome.
Of course they are pro-slavery. THe cheaper the labor, the more profit a company can make. THey think they should be beaten to a pulp because that is what he and many in the Republican party are all about-violence. That is particularly true with the ones who were or are in the military.
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(11-22-2012 10:01 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(11-20-2012 05:19 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  So people should be forced to work against their will? I personally wouldn't partake in such a job action, and have crossed a picket line in the past, but why should they be "beaten to a pulp"? The owners of the businesses get a free pass to join together and form organizations like the US Chamber of Commerce, why can't the workers do the same? If the employers don't like it, don't give in and hire scabs. Not a particularly difficult situation to overcome.
Of course they are pro-slavery. THe cheaper the labor, the more profit a company can make. THey think they should be beaten to a pulp because that is what he and many in the Republican party are all about-violence. That is particularly true with the ones who were or are in the military.

If it's all about profits then wouldn't it be in the employers best interest to settle their differences and avoid violence? Wouldn't it be best if the public never heard about this stuff?

Face it, it's the unions that have a reputation, based on fact, for using violence. When was the lat time you saw a CEO in a suit and tie setting fire to his fleet of vehicles?
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(11-20-2012 05:42 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(11-20-2012 05:24 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(11-20-2012 05:19 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  So people should be forced to work against their will? I personally wouldn't partake in such a job action, and have crossed a picket line in the past, but why should they be "beaten to a pulp"? The owners of the businesses get a free pass to join together and form organizations like the US Chamber of Commerce, why can't the workers do the same? If the employers don't like it, don't give in and hire scabs. Not a particularly difficult situation to overcome.

Straw man. 03-zzz

I'm not sure what's the strawman. What did I misrepresent from the original post? Did it not say "People like this need to be beaten to a pulp"? Or are you arguing that businesses shouldn't be allowed to organize into trade groups like the NFIB and the USCoB?
He thinks every post written by someone he doesn't agree with us a strawman post.
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(11-22-2012 09:39 AM)dcCid Wrote:  
(11-20-2012 04:21 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  SEIU Workers at LAX Threaten Thanksgiving Eve Strike

LAX employees are threatening to strike over being denied healthcare on Thanksgiving eve, the busiest travel holiday of the year.

A coalition of labor and community leaders is calling for the protest of alleged violations by LAX contractor Aviation Safeguards for breaking a healthcare contract with the airport earlier this year.

Andrew Gross-Gaitan, the director of the Southern California Airports Division, told KNX 1070 News Radio that Aviation Safeguards left more than 400 LAX workers without affordable family health care when it failed to comply with the city’s Living Wage Ordinance.

“When people’s lives are on the line, their family members are on the line, they’re not going to be able to enjoy their Thanksgiving,” said Andrew Gross-Gaitan.

“This is really a critical moment for thousands of workers.

“We’re looking at thousands of workers who may face their family benefits being cut,” Andrew Gross-Gaitan added.

“There is one worker whose wife is literally dying of liver cancer, and this has been going on for close to a year. The families of these workers are really in crisis.”

As many as 1,000 airport workers and union supporters are expected to march on Century Boulevard just as an estimated 1.8 million passengers are expected to travel through LAX over the holiday weekend,CBS reports.

Last May, an estimated 1,200 LAX employees protesting unfair labor laws, picketed outside the airport and prevented passengers from entering.

Andrew Gross-Gaitan said there is definite potential for severe disruptions to airport operations during the protest.

“It’s entirely possible there will be significant travel delays,” he said.

Martin Terrones, Communications Coordinator for the labor union United Service Workers West, downplayed the event.

“It’s not really a strike or a walkout,” he told L.A. Weekly.

“But it is going to be an action none the less.”

http://www.bellenews.com/2012/11/18/trav...z2Cnga9jf4

I thought you meant that the company who violated the contract where they said they would provide health care should be beaten to a pulp.

No. The Jackwads that screw up Travel (or in the case of the Walmart Protesters) Shopping tomorrow.

In Atlanta they uncovered a plot by Union activists and some Occupy Atlanta people to sabotage the automatic door opening devices so the doors wont open at Walmart when it opens for "Black Friday."

Wonderful Jackwads. People get crushed against the doors or cut when the glass breaks.
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(11-22-2012 10:01 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(11-20-2012 05:19 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  So people should be forced to work against their will? I personally wouldn't partake in such a job action, and have crossed a picket line in the past, but why should they be "beaten to a pulp"? The owners of the businesses get a free pass to join together and form organizations like the US Chamber of Commerce, why can't the workers do the same? If the employers don't like it, don't give in and hire scabs. Not a particularly difficult situation to overcome.
Of course they are pro-slavery. THe cheaper the labor, the more profit a company can make. THey think they should be beaten to a pulp because that is what he and many in the Republican party are all about-violence. That is particularly true with the ones who were or are in the military.

You somehow slimed your way into bashing the military. Go on Robert, tell us how you really feel.
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(11-22-2012 10:10 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  
(11-22-2012 09:39 AM)dcCid Wrote:  
(11-20-2012 04:21 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  SEIU Workers at LAX Threaten Thanksgiving Eve Strike

LAX employees are threatening to strike over being denied healthcare on Thanksgiving eve, the busiest travel holiday of the year.

A coalition of labor and community leaders is calling for the protest of alleged violations by LAX contractor Aviation Safeguards for breaking a healthcare contract with the airport earlier this year.

Andrew Gross-Gaitan, the director of the Southern California Airports Division, told KNX 1070 News Radio that Aviation Safeguards left more than 400 LAX workers without affordable family health care when it failed to comply with the city’s Living Wage Ordinance.

“When people’s lives are on the line, their family members are on the line, they’re not going to be able to enjoy their Thanksgiving,” said Andrew Gross-Gaitan.

“This is really a critical moment for thousands of workers.

“We’re looking at thousands of workers who may face their family benefits being cut,” Andrew Gross-Gaitan added.

“There is one worker whose wife is literally dying of liver cancer, and this has been going on for close to a year. The families of these workers are really in crisis.”

As many as 1,000 airport workers and union supporters are expected to march on Century Boulevard just as an estimated 1.8 million passengers are expected to travel through LAX over the holiday weekend,CBS reports.

Last May, an estimated 1,200 LAX employees protesting unfair labor laws, picketed outside the airport and prevented passengers from entering.

Andrew Gross-Gaitan said there is definite potential for severe disruptions to airport operations during the protest.

“It’s entirely possible there will be significant travel delays,” he said.

Martin Terrones, Communications Coordinator for the labor union United Service Workers West, downplayed the event.

“It’s not really a strike or a walkout,” he told L.A. Weekly.

“But it is going to be an action none the less.”

http://www.bellenews.com/2012/11/18/trav...z2Cnga9jf4

I thought you meant that the company who violated the contract where they said they would provide health care should be beaten to a pulp.

No. The Jackwads that screw up Travel (or in the case of the Walmart Protesters) Shopping tomorrow.

In Atlanta they uncovered a plot by Union activists and some Occupy Atlanta people to sabotage the automatic door opening devices so the doors wont open at Walmart when it opens for "Black Friday."

Wonderful Jackwads. People get crushed against the doors or cut when the glass breaks.

So you think that it was ok for the company to renege on the contract, and not ok that the impacted people did not just bend over and take it?
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(11-22-2012 10:09 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(11-22-2012 10:01 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(11-20-2012 05:19 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  So people should be forced to work against their will? I personally wouldn't partake in such a job action, and have crossed a picket line in the past, but why should they be "beaten to a pulp"? The owners of the businesses get a free pass to join together and form organizations like the US Chamber of Commerce, why can't the workers do the same? If the employers don't like it, don't give in and hire scabs. Not a particularly difficult situation to overcome.
Of course they are pro-slavery. THe cheaper the labor, the more profit a company can make. THey think they should be beaten to a pulp because that is what he and many in the Republican party are all about-violence. That is particularly true with the ones who were or are in the military.

If it's all about profits then wouldn't it be in the employers best interest to settle their differences and avoid violence? Wouldn't it be best if the public never heard about this stuff?

Face it, it's the unions that have a reputation, based on fact, for using violence. When was the lat time you saw a CEO in a suit and tie setting fire to his fleet of vehicles?

the kkk was unionized?
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(11-22-2012 10:27 AM)dcCid Wrote:  
(11-22-2012 10:09 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(11-22-2012 10:01 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(11-20-2012 05:19 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  So people should be forced to work against their will? I personally wouldn't partake in such a job action, and have crossed a picket line in the past, but why should they be "beaten to a pulp"? The owners of the businesses get a free pass to join together and form organizations like the US Chamber of Commerce, why can't the workers do the same? If the employers don't like it, don't give in and hire scabs. Not a particularly difficult situation to overcome.
Of course they are pro-slavery. THe cheaper the labor, the more profit a company can make. THey think they should be beaten to a pulp because that is what he and many in the Republican party are all about-violence. That is particularly true with the ones who were or are in the military.

If it's all about profits then wouldn't it be in the employers best interest to settle their differences and avoid violence? Wouldn't it be best if the public never heard about this stuff?

Face it, it's the unions that have a reputation, based on fact, for using violence. When was the lat time you saw a CEO in a suit and tie setting fire to his fleet of vehicles?

the kkk was unionized?

No. But terrorists are. Al Qaida is the organizing group.
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(11-22-2012 10:31 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  
(11-22-2012 10:27 AM)dcCid Wrote:  
(11-22-2012 10:09 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(11-22-2012 10:01 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(11-20-2012 05:19 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  So people should be forced to work against their will? I personally wouldn't partake in such a job action, and have crossed a picket line in the past, but why should they be "beaten to a pulp"? The owners of the businesses get a free pass to join together and form organizations like the US Chamber of Commerce, why can't the workers do the same? If the employers don't like it, don't give in and hire scabs. Not a particularly difficult situation to overcome.
Of course they are pro-slavery. THe cheaper the labor, the more profit a company can make. THey think they should be beaten to a pulp because that is what he and many in the Republican party are all about-violence. That is particularly true with the ones who were or are in the military.

If it's all about profits then wouldn't it be in the employers best interest to settle their differences and avoid violence? Wouldn't it be best if the public never heard about this stuff?

Face it, it's the unions that have a reputation, based on fact, for using violence. When was the lat time you saw a CEO in a suit and tie setting fire to his fleet of vehicles?

the kkk was unionized?

No. But terrorists are. Al Qaida is the organizing group.

Wow, I did not know they were unionized. At least the GOP now has a union supporting them.
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(11-22-2012 10:23 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  
(11-22-2012 10:01 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(11-20-2012 05:19 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  So people should be forced to work against their will? I personally wouldn't partake in such a job action, and have crossed a picket line in the past, but why should they be "beaten to a pulp"? The owners of the businesses get a free pass to join together and form organizations like the US Chamber of Commerce, why can't the workers do the same? If the employers don't like it, don't give in and hire scabs. Not a particularly difficult situation to overcome.
Of course they are pro-slavery. THe cheaper the labor, the more profit a company can make. THey think they should be beaten to a pulp because that is what he and many in the Republican party are all about-violence. That is particularly true with the ones who were or are in the military.

You somehow slimed your way into bashing the military. Go on Robert, tell us how you really feel.
I feel that people like WMD and Rebel need psychological counseling. THeir anger and desire for violence really need to be taken care of before they hurt themselves or more importantly others. I think their time spent in the military has really damaged their grasp on the use of voilence.
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(11-22-2012 11:20 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(11-22-2012 10:23 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  
(11-22-2012 10:01 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(11-20-2012 05:19 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  So people should be forced to work against their will? I personally wouldn't partake in such a job action, and have crossed a picket line in the past, but why should they be "beaten to a pulp"? The owners of the businesses get a free pass to join together and form organizations like the US Chamber of Commerce, why can't the workers do the same? If the employers don't like it, don't give in and hire scabs. Not a particularly difficult situation to overcome.
Of course they are pro-slavery. THe cheaper the labor, the more profit a company can make. THey think they should be beaten to a pulp because that is what he and many in the Republican party are all about-violence. That is particularly true with the ones who were or are in the military.

You somehow slimed your way into bashing the military. Go on Robert, tell us how you really feel.
I feel that people like WMD and Rebel need psychological counseling. THeir anger and desire for violence really need to be taken care of before they hurt themselves or more importantly others. I think their time spent in the military has really damaged their grasp on the use of voilence.

So you feel the need to generalize the entire military and its veterans based on the persona of "two" individuals. Gotcha.
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(11-20-2012 05:19 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  So people should be forced to work against their will?

Wait the workers at LAX are slaves? they were taken from the night by pirates and placed behind the ticketing counters?

Quote:I personally wouldn't partake in such a job action, and have crossed a picket line in the past, but why should they be "beaten to a pulp"?

I suspect "beaten to a pulp" was hyperbolic, albeit less hyperbolic than calling people with jobs "slaves"
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(11-22-2012 12:12 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  
(11-22-2012 11:20 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(11-22-2012 10:23 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  
(11-22-2012 10:01 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(11-20-2012 05:19 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  So people should be forced to work against their will? I personally wouldn't partake in such a job action, and have crossed a picket line in the past, but why should they be "beaten to a pulp"? The owners of the businesses get a free pass to join together and form organizations like the US Chamber of Commerce, why can't the workers do the same? If the employers don't like it, don't give in and hire scabs. Not a particularly difficult situation to overcome.
Of course they are pro-slavery. THe cheaper the labor, the more profit a company can make. THey think they should be beaten to a pulp because that is what he and many in the Republican party are all about-violence. That is particularly true with the ones who were or are in the military.

You somehow slimed your way into bashing the military. Go on Robert, tell us how you really feel.
I feel that people like WMD and Rebel need psychological counseling. THeir anger and desire for violence really need to be taken care of before they hurt themselves or more importantly others. I think their time spent in the military has really damaged their grasp on the use of voilence.

So you feel the need to generalize the entire military and its veterans based on the persona of "two" individuals. Gotcha.
No. Not all military people. I never said all people in the military or vets. But given the number of suicides coupled with the number on here advocating violence, it seems like it is not uncommon.
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(11-22-2012 12:34 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(11-20-2012 05:19 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  So people should be forced to work against their will?

Wait the workers at LAX are slaves? they were taken from the night by pirates and placed behind the ticketing counters?

Quote:I personally wouldn't partake in such a job action, and have crossed a picket line in the past, but why should they be "beaten to a pulp"?

I suspect "beaten to a pulp" was hyperbolic, albeit less hyperbolic than calling people with jobs "slaves"
Well, given that Republicans want to continually cut people's salaries and getting rid of minimum wage(not to mention child labor-which you seem to support), it seems like the Republican is trying to get this country as close to slavery as you can get without it actually being slavery.
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(11-22-2012 02:32 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(11-22-2012 12:34 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(11-20-2012 05:19 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  So people should be forced to work against their will?

Wait the workers at LAX are slaves? they were taken from the night by pirates and placed behind the ticketing counters?

Quote:I personally wouldn't partake in such a job action, and have crossed a picket line in the past, but why should they be "beaten to a pulp"?

I suspect "beaten to a pulp" was hyperbolic, albeit less hyperbolic than calling people with jobs "slaves"
Well, given that Republicans want to continually cut people's salaries and getting rid of minimum wage(not to mention child labor-which you seem to support), it seems like the Republican is trying to get this country as close to slavery as you can get without it actually being slavery.

And if liberal unions don't get their way they resort to terrorism. You all need to go back to the Middle East or SE Asian where you're at home.
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