I am feeling queasy. Thank God 90% of this thread is facetiousness

(09-06-2012 11:46 AM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  

(09-06-2012 11:24 AM)Usajags Wrote:  App State, GA Southern, yes, and for personal reasons, Jax St. As I've said before, I live about 30 miles from them and would be a nice easy road game for me to catch for the Jags.

In the case of distance, I'd love for FGCU to get a team then. I heard CUSA is already courting them. Who cares if the school is only 20 years old, THEY HAVE THE FT. MYERS/NAPLES MARKET!!!!

Sounds like good reason to add them to C-USA to me.

That all that mattered in this last round of adds, how big is the city you are located in. Why else do you think Ga St is coming to the Belt???

(09-06-2012 11:47 AM)panama Wrote:  I am feeling queasy. Thank God 90% of this thread is facetiousness

Absolutely...

(09-04-2012 07:10 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  For real, all this debate over UAB?

Come on now. They had a good crowd.

Correction.

Troy fans and UAB's band were the crowd.

I was at the game there were not even 19k UAB fans there they may have sold 28k tickets but they were in no way at that game. Honestly it was around 25k and I would say Troy brought around 5,000 which is till a good showing but there were not 28k people and 30k people like I have seen some UAB fans claim. And you also have to understand there was a much more popular match up later that day with Alabama A&M vs Tuskegee some of their fans were actually inside the Troy vs UAB also.

Idk...There was around 28k there I think....UAB had a good crowd. Best ive ever seen from them. Id say 20k UAB fans and 7k Troy fans.

(09-06-2012 12:33 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(09-04-2012 07:10 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  For real, all this debate over UAB?

Come on now. They had a good crowd.

Correction.

Troy fans and UAB's band were the crowd.

I was at the game there were not even 19k UAB fans there they may have sold 28k tickets but they were in no way at that game. Honestly it was around 25k and I would say Troy brought around 5,000 which is till a good showing but there were not 28k people and 30k people like I have seen some UAB fans claim. And you also have to understand there was a much more popular match up later that day with Alabama A&M vs Tuskegee some of their fans were actually inside the Troy vs UAB also.

Mmmm, not sure about that. Don't they use the turnstile count? I think from what I've seen that was an accurate amount. I've been legion field and I think that was probably a fairly true number.

Its really hard for people to gauge from their seat when your in a stadium that seats 70k to 80k.Its even harder when there are bleachers and not seatbacks.

(09-04-2012 09:24 PM)mbelcher987 Wrote:  

(09-04-2012 08:18 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  pride won't allow it. they'd have to admit they were wrong to start it up in the first place. UAB should have remained a basketball school, they are awesome at bball...and while I always pull against them in every sport, I respect their basketball program tremendously.

Basketball season in Alabama is 1 month long (march) Football stories run year round. Had we not started up football in 1991 we'd still be where USA is now. I think Gene Bartow had great foresight to know that NCAA athletics would come to this and we're in a better place having started football 20 years ago than if we were trying to go at it now.If Gene were still in our Athletic Dept UAB football would be miles ahead of where it is now. He was a great leader. May he rest in peace.

I love how USA is celebrating beating us in the worst season in a decade of UAB basketball. There's a reason Mike Davis is now coaching elsewhere. CUSA was and is the better basketball conference. It's getting worse with the subtraction of Memphis State, but overall still miles ahead of the current roster of the SBC. Before someone gets offended when was the last time a SBC team got an at large bid to the NCAA's? That's all I mean. We have a better chance for success in CUSA than we would if we were in the SBC.

Actually, it was in 2008, and the team was South Alabama. UAB has a good basketball program. Unfortunately, the conference just got devastated with the loss of Memphis and the addition of what will be the worst program in Div 1 next year, Florida Intl. UNCC was awful in the A-10 (13th of 14 programs). You guys may now be, like the Sun Belt, a one bid league in many years. Okay - UNT will be good this year - in the Belt. We shall see if they keep it up in CUSA. UAB isn't getting a bid to the nBE (due to its awful football) and they aren't getting a bid to the A-10 (geographical mismatch and the A-10 has George Mason and Creighton up next on the blocks).

Your football is more of a joke than South's program (loss to UTSA notwithstanding). You got punked by a truly putrid FAU program last year that couldn't win a game in the Belt and had one first down in an entire game at Mich State. You've lost 3 in a row to the Belt (and 2 of those losses came against teams that finished at or near the bottom of the Belt). You drew less than 13000 fans to a home game against a top 15 team last year and less than 10,000 to a game against a high profile conference opponent. You've been playing FBS for 15 years and you have exactly one bowl loss to show for it. We're supposed to suck and turn the ball over 4 times (2 inside the UTSA 10) to lose by one point to another similar team because they made a 51 yard FG at the end of the game. That's what teams that are transitioning do. Your stadium sucks and you guys have no hope of bettering it (ours does too by the way, but our unrestricted endowment is much bigger and we have an independent board).

Someone else in here stated that UAB was a cautionary tale about successful basketball programs thinking they could just start a football team and expect success.

There are teams in CUSA who can reasonably talk trash about the Sun Belt. UAB isn't one of them. And certainly not about South Alabama.

We've talked about a UAb, Troy, USA series for some sort of trophy. I would like to redo my vote, we, USA, don't need a series with UAb. I would rather have an out of conference series with USM, after all, that is the type of success I want South to have, that is the type of program I imagine in Mobile. Not that mess in Birmingham.

(09-06-2012 02:43 PM)Usajags Wrote:  We've talked about a UAb, Troy, USA series for some sort of trophy. I would like to redo my vote, we, USA, don't need a series with UAb. I would rather have an out of conference series with USM, after all, that is the type of success I want South to have, that is the type of program I imagine in Mobile. Not that mess in Birmingham.

I have no problem with playing UAB. I'm good if we don't either. At least in the beginning of our program, it will be a good opportunity for an OOC FBS win. Some of their fans are smacky, but that doesn't mean they represent the program.

(09-06-2012 02:21 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-04-2012 09:24 PM)mbelcher987 Wrote:  

(09-04-2012 08:18 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  pride won't allow it. they'd have to admit they were wrong to start it up in the first place. UAB should have remained a basketball school, they are awesome at bball...and while I always pull against them in every sport, I respect their basketball program tremendously.

Basketball season in Alabama is 1 month long (march) Football stories run year round. Had we not started up football in 1991 we'd still be where USA is now. I think Gene Bartow had great foresight to know that NCAA athletics would come to this and we're in a better place having started football 20 years ago than if we were trying to go at it now.If Gene were still in our Athletic Dept UAB football would be miles ahead of where it is now. He was a great leader. May he rest in peace.

I love how USA is celebrating beating us in the worst season in a decade of UAB basketball. There's a reason Mike Davis is now coaching elsewhere. CUSA was and is the better basketball conference. It's getting worse with the subtraction of Memphis State, but overall still miles ahead of the current roster of the SBC. Before someone gets offended when was the last time a SBC team got an at large bid to the NCAA's? That's all I mean. We have a better chance for success in CUSA than we would if we were in the SBC.

Actually, it was in 2008, and the team was South Alabama. UAB has a good basketball program. Unfortunately, the conference just got devastated with the loss of Memphis and the addition of what will be the worst program in Div 1 next year, Florida Intl. UNCC was awful in the A-10 (13th of 14 programs). You guys may now be, like the Sun Belt, a one bid league in many years. Okay - UNT will be good this year - in the Belt. We shall see if they keep it up in CUSA. UAB isn't getting a bid to the nBE (due to its awful football) and they aren't getting a bid to the A-10 (geographical mismatch and the A-10 has George Mason and Creighton up next on the blocks).

Your football is more of a joke than South's program (loss to UTSA notwithstanding). You got punked by a truly putrid FAU program last year that couldn't win a game in the Belt and had one first down in an entire game at Mich State. You've lost 3 in a row to the Belt (and 2 of those losses came against teams that finished at or near the bottom of the Belt). You drew less than 13000 fans to a home game against a top 15 team last year and less than 10,000 to a game against a high profile conference opponent. You've been playing FBS for 15 years and you have exactly one bowl loss to show for it. We're supposed to suck and turn the ball over 4 times (2 inside the UTSA 10) to lose by one point to another similar team because they made a 51 yard FG at the end of the game. That's what teams that are transitioning do. Your stadium sucks and you guys have no hope of bettering it (ours does too by the way, but our unrestricted endowment is much bigger and we have an independent board).

Someone else in here stated that UAB was a cautionary tale about successful basketball programs thinking they could just start a football team and expect success.

There are teams in CUSA who can reasonably talk trash about the Sun Belt. UAB isn't one of them. And certainly not about South Alabama.

Oh boy, that was a depressing day. Thank God it was an early game, and I didn't have to deal with the anxiety of looking forward to a game all day.

(09-06-2012 12:33 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(09-04-2012 07:10 PM)mtsufan561 Wrote:  For real, all this debate over UAB?

Come on now. They had a good crowd.

Correction.

Troy fans and UAB's band were the crowd.

I was at the game there were not even 19k UAB fans there they may have sold 28k tickets but they were in no way at that game. Honestly it was around 25k and I would say Troy brought around 5,000 which is till a good showing but there were not 28k people and 30k people like I have seen some UAB fans claim. And you also have to understand there was a much more popular match up later that day with Alabama A&M vs Tuskegee some of their fans were actually inside the Troy vs UAB also.

You showed up after the half didn't you? there were more people at that game than any Troy game ever. Including the Mizzou game when you beat them. So quit with the weak attendance smack

That game will be UAb's biggest attendance game this season. I'm sure it was helped by the other game on schedule. Let's face it, 27k in that stadium is going to look empty, the thing is massive. UAb, as much as I like to stir them up, needs an OCS as bad as anyone. They can't keep playing in the current condition of Legion Field. It's in a horrible neighborhood, it's in horrible shape, and it's just way to big for what they need. For years they gave tickets away to their games just to get people there. For all us Jags fans, we need a OCS, I want it and I want it now, but at least Ladd has had some updates done to it over the last 20 years. And it is larger then we need right now, but not 3x's to large.

(09-06-2012 02:21 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Actually, it was in 2008, and the team was South Alabama. UAB has a good basketball program. Unfortunately, the conference just got devastated with the loss of Memphis and the addition of what will be the worst program in Div 1 next year, Florida Intl. UNCC was awful in the A-10 (13th of 14 programs). You guys may now be, like the Sun Belt, a one bid league in many years. Okay - UNT will be good this year - in the Belt. We shall see if they keep it up in CUSA. UAB isn't getting a bid to the nBE (due to its awful football) and they aren't getting a bid to the A-10 (geographical mismatch and the A-10 has George Mason and Creighton up next on the blocks).

Your football is more of a joke than South's program (loss to UTSA notwithstanding). You got punked by a truly putrid FAU program last year that couldn't win a game in the Belt and had one first down in an entire game at Mich State. You've lost 3 in a row to the Belt (and 2 of those losses came against teams that finished at or near the bottom of the Belt). You drew less than 13000 fans to a home game against a top 15 team last year and less than 10,000 to a game against a high profile conference opponent. You've been playing FBS for 15 years and you have exactly one bowl loss to show for it. We're supposed to suck and turn the ball over 4 times (2 inside the UTSA 10) to lose by one point to another similar team because they made a 51 yard FG at the end of the game. That's what teams that are transitioning do. Your stadium sucks and you guys have no hope of bettering it (ours does too by the way, but our unrestricted endowment is much bigger and we have an independent board).

Someone else in here stated that UAB was a cautionary tale about successful basketball programs thinking they could just start a football team and expect success.

There are teams in CUSA who can reasonably talk trash about the Sun Belt. UAB isn't one of them. And certainly not about South Alabama.

I knew it was USA. They're the only basketball program left in the SBC. Just didn't know the year. That speaks for itself though so I won't start anymore smack about that. So we lost SMU and gained FIU that's an even trade if I've ever seen one. I'll take Tulsa UAB UTEP ODU and UNCC as a basketball conference. We're not just gonna give up because they left, but still miles ahead of what the SBC offers. You speak like we'd actually want to be in the A-10. We have FBS football... why would the A-10 be a viable solution again?

We have a new coach for a reason sir. One that would be the head coach at UARK right now if he wasn't already under contract at UAB. But look... Our conference has 6 auto bowl bids. Your's has 1. So I think our football team is a coach away from being successful... USA has yet to play a full season of FBS football... So we'll talk when you guys make a bowl at all.

Also in 91 we left the SBC and are in a better basketball conference because of our football program. Can you say that USA would not be better off had they done the same?

All South fans will tell you we should of started football 15 years ago, but out then president didn't agree. We should of joined C-USA when we had the chance, but again, same president, didn't agree. We would like to be in a conference with USM, Tulane, and yes, even UAb. But we also like our conference mates in Troy, Little Middle and WKU. But the past is the past and now we have the present and the future, and I believe that South's future over the next 10 years will be more productive then UAb's first 20 years in football.

(09-06-2012 07:03 PM)mbelcher987 Wrote:  

(09-06-2012 02:21 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Actually, it was in 2008, and the team was South Alabama. UAB has a good basketball program. Unfortunately, the conference just got devastated with the loss of Memphis and the addition of what will be the worst program in Div 1 next year, Florida Intl. UNCC was awful in the A-10 (13th of 14 programs). You guys may now be, like the Sun Belt, a one bid league in many years. Okay - UNT will be good this year - in the Belt. We shall see if they keep it up in CUSA. UAB isn't getting a bid to the nBE (due to its awful football) and they aren't getting a bid to the A-10 (geographical mismatch and the A-10 has George Mason and Creighton up next on the blocks).

Your football is more of a joke than South's program (loss to UTSA notwithstanding). You got punked by a truly putrid FAU program last year that couldn't win a game in the Belt and had one first down in an entire game at Mich State. You've lost 3 in a row to the Belt (and 2 of those losses came against teams that finished at or near the bottom of the Belt). You drew less than 13000 fans to a home game against a top 15 team last year and less than 10,000 to a game against a high profile conference opponent. You've been playing FBS for 15 years and you have exactly one bowl loss to show for it. We're supposed to suck and turn the ball over 4 times (2 inside the UTSA 10) to lose by one point to another similar team because they made a 51 yard FG at the end of the game. That's what teams that are transitioning do. Your stadium sucks and you guys have no hope of bettering it (ours does too by the way, but our unrestricted endowment is much bigger and we have an independent board).

Someone else in here stated that UAB was a cautionary tale about successful basketball programs thinking they could just start a football team and expect success.

There are teams in CUSA who can reasonably talk trash about the Sun Belt. UAB isn't one of them. And certainly not about South Alabama.

I knew it was USA. They're the only basketball program left in the SBC. Just didn't know the year. That speaks for itself though so I won't start anymore smack about that. So we lost SMU and gained FIU that's an even trade if I've ever seen one. I'll take Tulsa UAB UTEP ODU and UNCC as a basketball conference. We're not just gonna give up because they left, but still miles ahead of what the SBC offers. You speak like we'd actually want to be in the A-10. We have FBS football... why would the A-10 be a viable solution again?

We have a new coach for a reason sir. One that would be the head coach at UARK right now if he wasn't already under contract at UAB. But look... Our conference has 6 auto bowl bids. Your's has 1. So I think our football team is a coach away from being successful... USA has yet to play a full season of FBS football... So we'll talk when you guys make a bowl at all.

Also in 91 we left the SBC and are in a better basketball conference because of our football program. Can you say that USA would not be better off had they done the same?

The Belt has 2 auto bids. The fact that you have managed to get into only one bowl game in a conference where there are bids for half of your teams speaks volumes as to the viability of UAB football.

USA was not getting into the Great Midwest.

(09-06-2012 07:01 PM)Usajags Wrote:  That game will be UAb's biggest attendance game this season. I'm sure it was helped by the other game on schedule. Let's face it, 27k in that stadium is going to look empty, the thing is massive. UAb, as much as I like to stir them up, needs an OCS as bad as anyone. They can't keep playing in the current condition of Legion Field. It's in a horrible neighborhood, it's in horrible shape, and it's just way to big for what they need. For years they gave tickets away to their games just to get people there. For all us Jags fans, we need a OCS, I want it and I want it now, but at least Ladd has had some updates done to it over the last 20 years. And it is larger then we need right now, but not 3x's to large.

Most of those "give away tickets" are purchased by the city and distributed to the schools etc etc. If UAB can get young people to our games do you not think that's a good recruiting tool for our University? It's not like we just don't charge to get into our games.

You don't have to tell us that Legion Field is terrible, we know... But we play with cards we have... One of the first things Mcgee said was that when we win 30k will be too small. The crowd for the UAB Troy game was already larger than the capcity of the proposed OCS.

(09-06-2012 07:10 PM)Usajags Wrote:  All South fans will tell you we should of started football 15 years ago, but out then president didn't agree. We should of joined C-USA when we had the chance, but again, same president, didn't agree. We would like to be in a conference with USM, Tulane, and yes, even UAb. But we also like our conference mates in Troy, Little Middle and WKU. But the past is the past and now we have the present and the future, and I believe that South's future over the next 10 years will be more productive then UAb's first 20 years in football.

Believe us, we'd like to have your basketball program back with us... Great rivalry game back in the day. That's why the series continues. USA will probably the next team to move into CUSA during the 2020 round of expansion. Much to the chagrin of the Trojans who still haven't figured out the whole roundball thing.

The first 10 years of UAB football were successful the last 7 have been horrible... Watson Brown left us with nothing and Neil Callaway was a horrible replacement. WB had some success up until about 05. It was nothing special but respectable for what we had as a program up til that point.

(09-06-2012 07:11 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-06-2012 07:03 PM)mbelcher987 Wrote:  

(09-06-2012 02:21 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Actually, it was in 2008, and the team was South Alabama. UAB has a good basketball program. Unfortunately, the conference just got devastated with the loss of Memphis and the addition of what will be the worst program in Div 1 next year, Florida Intl. UNCC was awful in the A-10 (13th of 14 programs). You guys may now be, like the Sun Belt, a one bid league in many years. Okay - UNT will be good this year - in the Belt. We shall see if they keep it up in CUSA. UAB isn't getting a bid to the nBE (due to its awful football) and they aren't getting a bid to the A-10 (geographical mismatch and the A-10 has George Mason and Creighton up next on the blocks).

Your football is more of a joke than South's program (loss to UTSA notwithstanding). You got punked by a truly putrid FAU program last year that couldn't win a game in the Belt and had one first down in an entire game at Mich State. You've lost 3 in a row to the Belt (and 2 of those losses came against teams that finished at or near the bottom of the Belt). You drew less than 13000 fans to a home game against a top 15 team last year and less than 10,000 to a game against a high profile conference opponent. You've been playing FBS for 15 years and you have exactly one bowl loss to show for it. We're supposed to suck and turn the ball over 4 times (2 inside the UTSA 10) to lose by one point to another similar team because they made a 51 yard FG at the end of the game. That's what teams that are transitioning do. Your stadium sucks and you guys have no hope of bettering it (ours does too by the way, but our unrestricted endowment is much bigger and we have an independent board).

Someone else in here stated that UAB was a cautionary tale about successful basketball programs thinking they could just start a football team and expect success.

There are teams in CUSA who can reasonably talk trash about the Sun Belt. UAB isn't one of them. And certainly not about South Alabama.

I knew it was USA. They're the only basketball program left in the SBC. Just didn't know the year. That speaks for itself though so I won't start anymore smack about that. So we lost SMU and gained FIU that's an even trade if I've ever seen one. I'll take Tulsa UAB UTEP ODU and UNCC as a basketball conference. We're not just gonna give up because they left, but still miles ahead of what the SBC offers. You speak like we'd actually want to be in the A-10. We have FBS football... why would the A-10 be a viable solution again?

We have a new coach for a reason sir. One that would be the head coach at UARK right now if he wasn't already under contract at UAB. But look... Our conference has 6 auto bowl bids. Your's has 1. So I think our football team is a coach away from being successful... USA has yet to play a full season of FBS football... So we'll talk when you guys make a bowl at all.

Also in 91 we left the SBC and are in a better basketball conference because of our football program. Can you say that USA would not be better off had they done the same?

The fact that you have managed to get into only one bowl game in a conference where there are bids for half of your teams speaks volumes as to the viability of UAB football.

see the bolded part above

(09-06-2012 07:23 PM)mbelcher987 Wrote:  

(09-06-2012 07:10 PM)Usajags Wrote:  All South fans will tell you we should of started football 15 years ago, but out then president didn't agree. We should of joined C-USA when we had the chance, but again, same president, didn't agree. We would like to be in a conference with USM, Tulane, and yes, even UAb. But we also like our conference mates in Troy, Little Middle and WKU. But the past is the past and now we have the present and the future, and I believe that South's future over the next 10 years will be more productive then UAb's first 20 years in football.

Believe us, we'd like to have your basketball program back with us... Great rivalry game back in the day. That's why the series continues. USA will probably the next team to move into CUSA during the 2020 round of expansion. Much to the chagrin of the Trojans who still haven't figured out the whole roundball thing.

The first 10 years of UAB football were successful the last 7 have been horrible... Watson Brown left us with nothing and Neil Callaway was a horrible replacement. WB had some success up until about 05. It was nothing special but respectable for what we had as a program up til that point.

CUSA will be left in the dust by the SBC by 2020...