(04-19-2012 12:06 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  not everyone is giddy about the idea of moving over to a gutted C-USA. the core of the Sun Belt (Troy, stAte, Louisiana) are all planning on staying put and continuing to grow our brand.

Troy is the 'core of the Sun Belt'?

:microwave:

(04-19-2012 12:19 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  Troy is the 'core of the Sun Belt'?

Absolutely.

(04-19-2012 12:06 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  not everyone is giddy about the idea of moving over to a gutted C-USA. the core of the Sun Belt (Troy, stAte, Louisiana) are all planning on staying put and continuing to grow our brand.

Good to know that three of the schools that are garnering zero interest are all planning on staying put.

There is not a school in this conference that would turn down an invite to CUSA.

(04-19-2012 12:13 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(04-19-2012 12:06 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  not everyone is giddy about the idea of moving over to a gutted C-USA. the core of the Sun Belt (Troy, stAte, Louisiana) are all planning on staying put and continuing to grow our brand.

Ain't it great that everyone is entitled to an opinion ?

I have no problem with UNT going to CUSA, or Memphis to the Big East, or hiring new coaches or investing in infrastructure, because they have to do something to inspire their fans base that does not require winning football games.

The Administrations at both schools recognize that they have some resources and are taking advantage of what they have. That is just being smart.

ASU, UL, Troy, MTSU, WKU, FAU and FIU have tangible reasons to feel that they can advance their programs going forward by winning; something that UNT and Memphis know they cannot count on.

(04-19-2012 12:06 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  not everyone is giddy about the idea of moving over to a gutted C-USA. the core of the Sun Belt (Troy, stAte, Louisiana) are all planning on staying put and continuing to grow our brand.

Interesting that you do not consider Middle Tennessee & WKU as "core" material as they do have two of the top all round athletic programs in the conference.

Could it be that your so-called "core" are just folks that realize they have no chance of having an invite to another conference ? It's easy to "commit" when ya know you're not going anywhere.

(04-19-2012 12:32 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(04-19-2012 12:06 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  not everyone is giddy about the idea of moving over to a gutted C-USA. the core of the Sun Belt (Troy, stAte, Louisiana) are all planning on staying put and continuing to grow our brand.

Interesting that you do not consider Middle Tennessee & WKU as "core" material as they do have two of the top all round athletic programs in the conference.

Could it be that your so-called "core" are just folks that realize they have no chance of having an invite to another conference ? It's easy to "commit" when ya know you're not going anywhere.

One of the few times we're in complete agreement MG.

Unless he meant core geographically...

(04-19-2012 10:06 AM)Tiguar Wrote:  I'm genuinely surprised at the lack of rumors regarding stAte and moving up.

This round is all about unwatched televisions. We have too few unwatched televisions to be of interest.

(04-19-2012 12:19 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(04-19-2012 12:06 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  not everyone is giddy about the idea of moving over to a gutted C-USA. the core of the Sun Belt (Troy, stAte, Louisiana) are all planning on staying put and continuing to grow our brand.

Troy is the 'core of the Sun Belt'?

:microwave:

Well Troy has more winning seasons in the last ten years than FIU has in school history...And I'm to lazy to look it up but we likely have the most wins of any conference team in the years we have been here.

So...safe to say any discussion about the Sun Belt core has to include Troy. We have not been getting it done in golf and women's sports but we have had success in mens basketball, football, and baseball.

But I would include South Alabama before anyone as the "core" and Middle

(04-19-2012 02:04 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  Well Troy has more winning seasons in the last ten years than FIU has in school history...And I'm to lazy to look it up but we likely have the most wins of any conference team in the years we have been here.

You guys used to be really good!

(04-19-2012 01:30 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-19-2012 12:32 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(04-19-2012 12:06 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  not everyone is giddy about the idea of moving over to a gutted C-USA. the core of the Sun Belt (Troy, stAte, Louisiana) are all planning on staying put and continuing to grow our brand.

Interesting that you do not consider Middle Tennessee & WKU as "core" material as they do have two of the top all round athletic programs in the conference.

Could it be that your so-called "core" are just folks that realize they have no chance of having an invite to another conference ? It's easy to "commit" when ya know you're not going anywhere.

One of the few times we're in complete agreement MG.

Unless he meant core geographically...

Agree with both MG61 and MTPiKapp in part (Not many times we agree on something either)....

Again, I think people here who are quick to criticize should wait to see who, if any, or our conference members are invited...and choose to leave the SBC. Then, IF and once the university(ies) that freely and voluntarily decide to leave because after doing their due dillegence they think it's in their best interest to move, let's not get into attacks to the ones leaving, and the ones leaving not make any unnecessary derogatory comments against our current house.

After all, it's all out of our hands and everyone makes their decisions based on their analysis.

(04-19-2012 02:23 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  

(04-19-2012 01:30 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(04-19-2012 12:32 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(04-19-2012 12:06 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  not everyone is giddy about the idea of moving over to a gutted C-USA. the core of the Sun Belt (Troy, stAte, Louisiana) are all planning on staying put and continuing to grow our brand.

Interesting that you do not consider Middle Tennessee & WKU as "core" material as they do have two of the top all round athletic programs in the conference.

Could it be that your so-called "core" are just folks that realize they have no chance of having an invite to another conference ? It's easy to "commit" when ya know you're not going anywhere.

One of the few times we're in complete agreement MG.

Unless he meant core geographically...

Agree with both MG61 and MTPiKapp in part (Not many times we agree on something either)....

Again, I think people here who are quick to criticize should wait to see who, if any, or our conference members are invited...and choose to leave the SBC. Then, IF and once the university(ies) that freely and voluntarily decide to leave because after doing their due dillegence they think it's in their best interest to move, let's not get into attacks to the ones leaving, and the ones leaving not make any unnecessary derogatory comments against our current house.

After all, it's all out of our hands and everyone makes their decisions based on their analysis.

That's all well and good, but there will be no "due diligence" when it comes to mulling a CUSA invite. Every school in this conference is ready to accept an invite before it's finished being extended. Here's how it's going to play out.

Banowsky: Good afternoon, Mr/Mrs President/AD

Any president/AD in the conference: Good afternoon commissioner Banowsky.

Banowsky: Nice weather you're having there in Atlanta/Bowling Green/ Denton/Fort Lauderdale/Jonesboro/Lafayette/Miami/Mobile/Monroe/
Murfreesboro/Troy.

Any president/AD in the conference: Yes it is, gotta love spring time in Atlanta/Bowling Green/ Denton/Fort Lauderdale/Jonesboro/Lafayette/
Miami/Mobile/Monroe/Murfreesboro/Troy.

Banowsky: Well enough with the chit chat, I'll cut right to the chase. Mr/Mrs President/AD after careful review we at Conference USA have decided to extend-

Any president/AD in the conference: We accept.

Banowsky: Excuse me?

Any president/AD in the conference: We accept your invitation to Conference USA.

Banowsky: Oh...good. Gosh you sound excited, is that champagne bottles I hear popping in the background?

Any president/AD in the conference: No...um...that's call waiting. Gotta run, looking forward to officially signing the paperwork. Goodbye!

-click-

This thread:

I didn't mean to diss MTSU or WKU, both are personal favorites of mine. My choice of teams was based purely on those perceived to be the best football programs currently.

to those UNT and FIU fans on here who keep talking about moving on to C-USA, if yall want out of the league so bad, and by your aggresively defensive tones recently I can tell ya do, why don't yall just leave? I don't have to prove myself to anyone here, I'm one of the most dedicated Sun Belt fans out there. You guys seem to have already mentally jumped ship.

(04-19-2012 05:39 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  I didn't mean to diss MTSU or WKU, both are personal favorites of mine. My choice of teams was based purely on those perceived to be the best football programs currently.

to those UNT and FIU fans on here who keep talking about moving on to C-USA, if yall want out of the league so bad, and by your aggresively defensive tones recently I can tell ya do, why don't yall just leave? I don't have to prove myself to anyone here, I'm one of the most dedicated Sun Belt fans out there. You guys seem to have already mentally jumped ship.

Maybe rather than jumping ship, some of you have just thrown us overboard. Kindly remember we were here before the mighty Trojans joined and we have, thru the years, tried to be good conference mates. We don't have to prove ourselves to anyone either. it's not our fault that certain schools here are never metioned as candidates for another conference.

I havent thrown anyone overboard, I want yall to stay.

No need to get overly defensive, Burn. Some posters here have felt the urge for weeks now, for some reason or another, to start criticizing the programs that are RUMORED to be offered an invitation to join CUSA. Of course, some sort of reply-comments are to be expected from the fans of those schools (including MTSU) that have been the target of those not-so-nice comments. I would say most of us have been extremely measured in our comments and responses to several provoking comments. That's why your comment there of "why don't yall leave" is precisely the type of comment that spurs conflict and animosity rather than the relative "civility" mostly displayed in these forums.

I dont, or any FIU, MTSU, or UNT fans, have...to put it in your words...to prove anything to you or anyone else that for some reason might feel offended because our teams are rumored to be "moving on" to another conference. Even if those rumors ever become reality. Why the animosity? FIU has been a proud SBC member since 1998 and I am sure both parties have benefitted from such a relationship...the same with every other SBC team including UNT and MTSU. I like the way the SBC has progressed and would hate to leave. At the same time, live and let live. If Denver wants to leave to the WAC...so be it and good for them. If ANY university is invited, and CHOOSES to go on to any other conference....Good for them too!

Well I didn't mean to come across like that, my "why don't yall leave" comment was uncalled for and really just a knee-jerk reaction to some aggressive comments I was seeing from a UNT fan. Sorry.

I don't want to lose any programs, but most of all I don't want to lose and of you guys. We're a family here, it's going to suck losing members of our community.

(04-18-2012 08:55 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  

(04-18-2012 08:27 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(04-18-2012 08:20 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  

(04-18-2012 08:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(04-18-2012 07:10 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  ark30inf is the king of silly hate and jealousy. Lay off it and enjoy life. Geez...

He gets on these tangents sometimes. He once dedicated a several page thread on our board to how we needed to take it easy on UCA this past year because the legislature would get mad at us and cut funding if we blew them out.

I do agree that this might not be the wisest decision for FIU. But you guys are entitled to do whatever you want, as long as you dont leave badmouthing us like Neck fans.

I agree that we must let each and every university to make the decision they deem positive to their future endeavors, if there is a choice to be made. Other than that, as most FIU fans in this board have expressed very carefully....I love being in the Sun Belt Conference and what it entails, but I will support and understand if we ever make the move to CUSA....IF invited. I know for a fact that financial considerations have been analyzed based on available information/projections by very competent personnel.

I can't ask any more or any less from our administrators and leave the ultimate decision, if there is a decision to be made, on them. Either way, I'm happy in this home, and will be happy once the move is made to CUSA, if it's ever done.

FIU is free to do what they want. Who knows what will end up better for them in the long run. But I have no illusions that anyone is choosing FIU for anything other than how many television sets are clustered around them....whether they are turned on televisions or not.

If it had anything to do with football we'd all be waving Troy goodbye.

And certainly ECU and USM would be waving Memphis goodbye only the other way around.

we were rushed (along with FAU, which was added that year to SBC) to jump to IA Football in order to help preserve SBC Football

You actually have a very valid point on this one, that had faded from my memory that shouldn't have.

I actually would prefer that all of the SBC Presidents stand firm and not allow the league to be raided. I'd just as soon keep everyone. If I had to lose programs I'd just as soon it be FAU and FIU because they haven't seemed like core SBC programs...until Cristobal started to change the perception. It's mostly due to geography I figure.

as long as Troy, stAte, Louisiana, MTSU, WKU, and Florida Atlantic stick together Sun Belt football will be fine. that is the core.

(04-19-2012 07:55 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  as long as Troy, stAte, Louisiana, MTSU, WKU, and Florida Atlantic stick together Sun Belt football will be fine. that is the core.

ULM has done more against TROY than anyone in the SBC...they deserve respect.