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(03-20-2012 07:16 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Hope we don't get another Doh turd to open a new $40,000,000 facility

Basketball wise as Matt is one of the nicest guys you will meet

Marquette's practice facility cost $35 million, about 10 years ago. All $40 million means is a paint job, plus new lighting and seats.

Buzz made $2.8 million last year according to reports, probably a bit less this year. Still, he is probably around $2.5 million. No doubt, MU will match any offer.

Now, that said, I think SMU hiring Buzz is not a completely insane idea. There are rumors of friction between Buzz and the new AD. The players have gotten into a bit of trouble this year, so that may have been the cause. Buzz's family is still in Texas and his wife is from Oklahoma City, so SMU would be close to home. His attraction to a religious school also cannot be denied. The question is, is his wife still happy? From what I understand, his family loves Milwaukee and MU. If his wife wants to stay, I can't help but think he will stay. Family is absolutely everything to Buzz. This article gives you a little insight into the man.

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(03-23-2012 03:33 PM)MU88 Wrote:  
(03-20-2012 07:16 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Hope we don't get another Doh turd to open a new $40,000,000 facility

Basketball wise as Matt is one of the nicest guys you will meet

Marquette's practice facility cost $35 million, about 10 years ago. All $40 million means is a paint job, plus new lighting and seats.

$31 million, and that includes the fee for the 4,000 seat arena for men's and women's volleyball as well as practice facilities, an academic center, etc.
http://www.gomarquette.com/facilities/mc...enter.html

SMU's basketball-only practice facility, opened in 2008, is state of the art and cost $13 million. My guess is that that's comparable to the basketball practice portion of the Marquette facility.
http://www.smumustangs.com/facilities/cr...enter.html

By contrast, the $40 million SMU will spend in renovating Moody Coliseum will include new premium seating areas, full renovation of the entry lobby and concourses, a new club lounge, and several other improvements. Moody is already a great place to watch a game, but it is outdated, and the $40 million renovation will make Moody Coliseum the premier college basketball arena in the state of Texas.
Renderings here: http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college...sTop166420
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(03-23-2012 03:47 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(03-23-2012 03:33 PM)MU88 Wrote:  
(03-20-2012 07:16 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Hope we don't get another Doh turd to open a new $40,000,000 facility

Basketball wise as Matt is one of the nicest guys you will meet

Marquette's practice facility cost $35 million, about 10 years ago. All $40 million means is a paint job, plus new lighting and seats.

$31 million, and that includes the fee for the 4,000 seat arena for men's and women's volleyball as well as practice facilities, an academic center, etc.
http://www.gomarquette.com/facilities/mc...enter.html

SMU's basketball-only practice facility, opened in 2008, is state of the art and cost $13 million. My guess is that that's comparable to the basketball practice portion of the Marquette facility.
http://www.smumustangs.com/facilities/cr...enter.html

By contrast, the $40 million SMU will spend in renovating Moody Coliseum will include new premium seating areas, full renovation of the entry lobby and concourses, a new club lounge, and several other improvements. Moody is already a great place to watch a game, but it is outdated, and the $40 million renovation will make Moody Coliseum the premier college basketball arena in the state of Texas.
Renderings here: http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college...sTop166420

Actually, the website is not correct. $31 million was the original budget. The University spent closer to $40 million since an endowment was set up for maintenance and updates.

The entire building is a practice facility. The arena is intended to be a replica of the Bradley Center, since the team has limited practice times there. There are additional courts in the lower level of the structure which are private (you can see into the arena from ground level). Yeah, the girls hoops and the volleyball teams use the Al, but it is really intended for the men's hoops team.

Honestly, $40 million is nothing a gloried paint job. Most of the money will go towards bringing the guts of the building HVAC, plumbing, bathrooms, etc up to 21st century levels. The Bradley Center sunk about $7 million into the arena last year for nothing but upkeep. They have spent over $60 million in upgrades to the BC since it opened 23 years ago, and it still is outdated. Now, Moody is about half the size, but still. UWM is planning a new little arena on campus, 7500-8000 capacity. It will run around $60 million.
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Quote:UWM is planning a new little arena on campus, 7500-8000 capacity. It will run around $60 million.

Of course. That's because they have to build it from scratch. Moody is already built...it just needs an update. The only new construction we are doing will be the club room and tower (visible in the renderings I posted above).

I'd also hazard a guess that, all else equal, construction in Texas costs less than construction in Wisconsin. Wisconsin has stronger union laws than does Texas, and in my experience, construction costs tend to be higher in states with stronger unions.

Hopefully you'll be able to enjoy the new Moody in a few years by coming down to a basketball game. Our fan base is energized and ready for Big East basketball, and Moody is a magical arena when it's even half-full.
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(03-23-2012 07:37 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
Quote:UWM is planning a new little arena on campus, 7500-8000 capacity. It will run around $60 million.

Of course. That's because they have to build it from scratch. Moody is already built...it just needs an update. The only new construction we are doing will be the club room and tower (visible in the renderings I posted above).

I'd also hazard a guess that, all else equal, construction in Texas costs less than construction in Wisconsin. Wisconsin has stronger union laws than does Texas, and in my experience, construction costs tend to be higher in states with stronger unions.

Hopefully you'll be able to enjoy the new Moody in a few years by coming down to a basketball game. Our fan base is energized and ready for Big East basketball, and Moody is a magical arena when it's even half-full.

Yes, labor costs are higher up north. What costs $50 million to build up north can probably be built in Texas for about $35 million.
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(03-23-2012 08:23 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  
(03-23-2012 07:37 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
Quote:UWM is planning a new little arena on campus, 7500-8000 capacity. It will run around $60 million.

Of course. That's because they have to build it from scratch. Moody is already built...it just needs an update. The only new construction we are doing will be the club room and tower (visible in the renderings I posted above).

I'd also hazard a guess that, all else equal, construction in Texas costs less than construction in Wisconsin. Wisconsin has stronger union laws than does Texas, and in my experience, construction costs tend to be higher in states with stronger unions.

Hopefully you'll be able to enjoy the new Moody in a few years by coming down to a basketball game. Our fan base is energized and ready for Big East basketball, and Moody is a magical arena when it's even half-full.

I said it in another thread; I'll say it again. You should make a run at Richard Pitino.

Yes, labor costs are higher up north. What costs $50 million to build up north can probably be built in Texas for about $35 million.
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I could see Jeff Capel or Paul Hewitt doing well at SMU...
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As we reported on Thursday morning, #SMU is pursuing Buzz Williams. @GoodmanCBS is saying offer is worth at least $2.6 million per season.
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well Tex is the home of the brave and free, and very well paid.
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(03-23-2012 04:08 PM)MU88 Wrote:  
(03-23-2012 03:47 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(03-23-2012 03:33 PM)MU88 Wrote:  
(03-20-2012 07:16 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Hope we don't get another Doh turd to open a new $40,000,000 facility

Basketball wise as Matt is one of the nicest guys you will meet

Marquette's practice facility cost $35 million, about 10 years ago. All $40 million means is a paint job, plus new lighting and seats.

$31 million, and that includes the fee for the 4,000 seat arena for men's and women's volleyball as well as practice facilities, an academic center, etc.
http://www.gomarquette.com/facilities/mc...enter.html

SMU's basketball-only practice facility, opened in 2008, is state of the art and cost $13 million. My guess is that that's comparable to the basketball practice portion of the Marquette facility.
http://www.smumustangs.com/facilities/cr...enter.html

By contrast, the $40 million SMU will spend in renovating Moody Coliseum will include new premium seating areas, full renovation of the entry lobby and concourses, a new club lounge, and several other improvements. Moody is already a great place to watch a game, but it is outdated, and the $40 million renovation will make Moody Coliseum the premier college basketball arena in the state of Texas.
Renderings here: http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college...sTop166420

Actually, the website is not correct. $31 million was the original budget. The University spent closer to $40 million since an endowment was set up for maintenance and updates.

The entire building is a practice facility. The arena is intended to be a replica of the Bradley Center, since the team has limited practice times there. There are additional courts in the lower level of the structure which are private (you can see into the arena from ground level). Yeah, the girls hoops and the volleyball teams use the Al, but it is really intended for the men's hoops team.

Honestly, $40 million is nothing a gloried paint job. Most of the money will go towards bringing the guts of the building HVAC, plumbing, bathrooms, etc up to 21st century levels. The Bradley Center sunk about $7 million into the arena last year for nothing but upkeep. They have spent over $60 million in upgrades to the BC since it opened 23 years ago, and it still is outdated. Now, Moody is about half the size, but still. UWM is planning a new little arena on campus, 7500-8000 capacity. It will run around $60 million.

Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis cost $720 million in 2005.

Reliant Stadium in Houston cost $352 million in 2002.

Construction costs down here are drastically different between the two regions.
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Marquette just granted SMU permission to speak to Williams. Yes, I have been lurking on their boards./
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(03-25-2012 05:37 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Marquette just granted SMU permission to speak to Williams. Yes, I have been lurking on their boards./

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...t/18044737

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Mar. 25, 2012 4:28 p.m. - by Mike Singer


Marquette University has granted SMU permission to speak to coach Buzz Williams regarding its vacant head coaching position, according to Jim Ganzer of Marquette Scout. SMU is prepared to offer Williams more than his current $2.6 million contract, as first reported by CBS' Jeff Goodman.
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Well, that's certainly nice of Marquette.
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Doh made $450,000 a year and we might go to $2,600,000?
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(03-25-2012 05:54 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Doh made $450,000 a year and we might go to $2,600,000?

>2.6 mil. Buzz is getting 2.6 from MU
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(03-25-2012 05:54 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Doh made $450,000 a year and we might go to $2,600,000?
Big East push. Shows the school is taking BB seriously - or at least wants to.
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(03-25-2012 06:00 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  
(03-25-2012 05:54 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Doh made $450,000 a year and we might go to $2,600,000?
Big East push. Shows the school is taking BB seriously - or at least wants to.

Shows I should have gone into oil and gas
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(03-25-2012 06:02 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(03-25-2012 06:00 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  
(03-25-2012 05:54 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Doh made $450,000 a year and we might go to $2,600,000?
Big East push. Shows the school is taking BB seriously - or at least wants to.

Shows I should have gone into oil and gas

Or buying distressed banks (G. Ford just made another billion as was discussed in the WSJ a couple of weeks ago)
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(03-25-2012 05:30 PM)canewton Wrote:  
(03-23-2012 04:08 PM)MU88 Wrote:  
(03-23-2012 03:47 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  
(03-23-2012 03:33 PM)MU88 Wrote:  
(03-20-2012 07:16 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Hope we don't get another Doh turd to open a new $40,000,000 facility

Basketball wise as Matt is one of the nicest guys you will meet

Marquette's practice facility cost $35 million, about 10 years ago. All $40 million means is a paint job, plus new lighting and seats.

$31 million, and that includes the fee for the 4,000 seat arena for men's and women's volleyball as well as practice facilities, an academic center, etc.
http://www.gomarquette.com/facilities/mc...enter.html

SMU's basketball-only practice facility, opened in 2008, is state of the art and cost $13 million. My guess is that that's comparable to the basketball practice portion of the Marquette facility.
http://www.smumustangs.com/facilities/cr...enter.html

By contrast, the $40 million SMU will spend in renovating Moody Coliseum will include new premium seating areas, full renovation of the entry lobby and concourses, a new club lounge, and several other improvements. Moody is already a great place to watch a game, but it is outdated, and the $40 million renovation will make Moody Coliseum the premier college basketball arena in the state of Texas.
Renderings here: http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college...sTop166420

Actually, the website is not correct. $31 million was the original budget. The University spent closer to $40 million since an endowment was set up for maintenance and updates.

The entire building is a practice facility. The arena is intended to be a replica of the Bradley Center, since the team has limited practice times there. There are additional courts in the lower level of the structure which are private (you can see into the arena from ground level). Yeah, the girls hoops and the volleyball teams use the Al, but it is really intended for the men's hoops team.

Honestly, $40 million is nothing a gloried paint job. Most of the money will go towards bringing the guts of the building HVAC, plumbing, bathrooms, etc up to 21st century levels. The Bradley Center sunk about $7 million into the arena last year for nothing but upkeep. They have spent over $60 million in upgrades to the BC since it opened 23 years ago, and it still is outdated. Now, Moody is about half the size, but still. UWM is planning a new little arena on campus, 7500-8000 capacity. It will run around $60 million.

Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis cost $720 million in 2005.

Reliant Stadium in Houston cost $352 million in 2002.

Construction costs down here are drastically different between the two regions.

Well thats because it's easier for you Texans to get "cheap labor". 05-stirthepot
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You sure have made some Marshall and ECU fans butthurt Redman
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