(03-19-2012 09:38 PM)7 Wrote:  I think HMM should be charged for trying to rip off Toledo's mascots head too.

ASSAULT!

HMM...you should not EVER try and rip off the head of the Toledo Mascot...too messy....you should slowly unroll it from the base.

The fact that Compher went out of his way to say that Bass was still enrolled in the university and still a member of the football team tells me all I need to know about his opinion of the charges. My guess would be he hasn't said anything more because our guys are taking a good, long look at the grand jury report to find out exactly where this came from before making a full on response.

(03-20-2012 05:21 AM)houstonhuskie Wrote:  

(03-19-2012 09:38 PM)7 Wrote:  I think HMM should be charged for trying to rip off Toledo's mascots head too.

ASSAULT!

HMM...you should not EVER try and rip off the head of the Toledo Mascot...too messy....you should slowly unroll it from the base.

Welll.... I guess the Jambulance won't be making the trip to DeKalb in the fall. I can't afford to buy a new set of tires...

(03-20-2012 07:04 AM)RangerRocket Wrote:  

(03-20-2012 05:21 AM)houstonhuskie Wrote:  

(03-19-2012 09:38 PM)7 Wrote:  I think HMM should be charged for trying to rip off Toledo's mascots head too.

ASSAULT!

HMM...you should not EVER try and rip off the head of the Toledo Mascot...too messy....you should slowly unroll it from the base.

Welll.... I guess the Jambulance won't be making the trip to DeKalb in the fall. I can't afford to buy a new set of tires...

That is probably a good idea. I think its absurd anyone would take retribution on Toledo fans for this because its not your fault a complete joke of an indictment occurred. But yeah I assume there will be jerks out there that do some bad things when Toledo visits, I'd stay home also if I were you.

(03-20-2012 07:10 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(03-20-2012 07:04 AM)RangerRocket Wrote:  

(03-20-2012 05:21 AM)houstonhuskie Wrote:  

(03-19-2012 09:38 PM)7 Wrote:  I think HMM should be charged for trying to rip off Toledo's mascots head too.

ASSAULT!

HMM...you should not EVER try and rip off the head of the Toledo Mascot...too messy....you should slowly unroll it from the base.

Welll.... I guess the Jambulance won't be making the trip to DeKalb in the fall. I can't afford to buy a new set of tires...

That is probably a good idea. I think its absurd anyone would take retribution on Toledo fans for this because its not your fault a complete joke of an indictment occurred. But yeah I assume there will be jerks out there that do some bad things when Toledo visits, I'd stay home also if I were you.

We'll still be there if we can (provided it's not the middle of the work week as usually seems to be the case).

With the exception of HMM we generally like the NIU fans....

I won't comment on the merits of the legal action, although I suspect your player will end up getting a slap on the wrist once everything is said and done.

Still can't get over felony charges. Wow. Jail time possible. Felony on his record could ruin his life. What he did was wrong and he should be punished(and was) but to be convicted of a serious crime is wrong. Where is common sense?

(03-20-2012 07:20 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Still can't get over felony charges. Wow. Jail time possible. Felony on his record could ruin his life. What he did was wrong and he should be punished(and was) but to be convicted of a serious crime is wrong. Where is common sense?

I have a hard hard hard hard time believing these were real concussions. Sounds like the band members were looking to clean up. Initially they were reported fine to NIU, and then the story changed.

(03-20-2012 07:04 AM)RangerRocket Wrote:  

(03-20-2012 05:21 AM)houstonhuskie Wrote:  

(03-19-2012 09:38 PM)7 Wrote:  I think HMM should be charged for trying to rip off Toledo's mascots head too.

ASSAULT!

HMM...you should not EVER try and rip off the head of the Toledo Mascot...too messy....you should slowly unroll it from the base.

Welll.... I guess the Jambulance won't be making the trip to DeKalb in the fall. I can't afford to buy a new set of tires...

Tires will be the least of your problems. If I were you, I would not even show up.

(03-19-2012 10:18 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  

(03-19-2012 10:03 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(03-19-2012 09:59 PM)7 Wrote:  Since when is running into somebody assault?! Especially on a football field? How could you Toledo idiots possibly defend this? My God.

It is assault when you intentional run over someone who is defenseless and not partaking in football. But I guess, according to you, that since it was on a football field then it is ok to run anyone over and not be punished for it. Face it, he was wrong, he is being charged accordingly. If he is innocent then nothing will come of it. If he is found guilty then he will pay.

He was wrong, yes, and I have no problem with him being charged with something. If I was the parent I don't know if a three game suspension would do it for me either. But he was "charged accordingly"? No. The felony charge is absurd. An appropriate punishment would be some kind of probation on a misdemeanor charge that would be expunged with an apology and community service. Now he's looking at a felony charge that our Toledo friends say is no problem because courts always do the reasonable thing right? Unless you're African American in which case your chance of getting convicted of a bull**** trumped up charge is exponentially higher. The felony charge is a serious overreach by that DA.

I suspect this will get a plea down to something less serious, but the fact that it's happening at all is ridiculous, particularly months after the incident.

Fine, the parents are pissed, I get that. But the whole thing was screwed up based on ESPN's schedule telling them to run on the field and the band not being off yet. Bass was punished for his actions already by the university.

This is a real person we're dealing with here, not some robot under a helmet.

(03-20-2012 07:20 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Still can't get over felony charges. Wow. Jail time possible. Felony on his record could ruin his life. What he did was wrong and he should be punished(and was) but to be convicted of a serious crime is wrong. Where is common sense?

Woke up today even more disgusted than I was last night. Its truly unbelievable.

Its petty and small time. Those associated with Toledo should be ashamed.. trying to ruin a 19 year old kid's life over something like this. A felony.. what a ******* joke.

(03-19-2012 09:20 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  You guys are all frickin' ridiculous. If this were a UT player running over an NIU band member you would be pissed off and want charges pressed. What about the "innocent until proven guilty" saying? You guys are all saying his life is going to be ruined, blah, blah blah, as if he were already found guilty. Why don't you wait and see what the outcome is first?

No is saying he's guilty! Duh! Everyone is saying he should not have been charged with a felony. Go back and read!
I don't condone what he did, BUT, IT'S YOUR FRICKING FIELD! IT'S YOUR GAME DAY PLANNING PEOPLE THAT FORCED A FOOTBALL TEAM AND A BAND TO CROSS PATHS AND COLLIDE. Who is being charged with negligent felonious battery from UT?
Your posting on here is a joke.
BTW, you really think if this were a Toledo player who did the same thing, that he would be charged with a felony? How many other campus batteries has this DA charged as felonies? I'm going to guess none.

I am not young by any stretch of the imagination. This is the most ridiculous, assinine thing I have seen in my life....and I have seen a lot. I hope the University vigorously defends him and pays all legal costs.

If Bass gets ANY jail time from bumping into a girl playing with a flute, we all better pray that we don't bump into someone or get into a car accident in Ohio. We may get life or the death penalty.

I cannot wait until we play Toledo this year. For this, I will go to the game even if it's on a weekday morning.

(03-19-2012 09:33 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-19-2012 09:23 PM)klake87 Wrote:  His attorney should request that the trial be moved out of the toledo area. How about dekalb county. This is why states have no money, grandstanding. Must be up for re election. I will be the

Won't comment on this other than to say Julia Bates could murder somebody in front of the staff of the Blade, set fire to the courthouse and drive drunk through the mayor's office in a Jeep and be re-elected in a landslide. She could come out in support of her opponent and be re-elected. She could take a job as her opponent's campaign manager and be re-elected.

Not sure what this is about but its not about re-election. Not enough people in Toledo know about the incident or care about the incident or UT football for it to be on any but the most avid fan's radar. I learned about it when Brad posted the info on our board.

I think it's about trying to exact a pound of flesh from an out-of-state kid. They fact that they got the indictment means nothing - they could indict anyone for anything they want. The fact that they went for an indictment for a felony is ridiculous, and I would guess is meant to scare Bass (and scare and embarrass NIU) and making his life very hard before eventually giving him a plea agreement to misdemeanor battery with restitution and community service and probation. (At least I hope that's all this is about. But in the meantime, they put Bass through hell and embarrass the university!)

I'll save you all the trouble of going to the thread Brad started on the Toledo board and just post my reply here.

Quote:I've been pretty busy with a lot of other stuff lately, and once I read this, I was kinda glad.

First off, Brad, you are WAY off-base. UT had nothing to do with filing charges and has no power to stop it.
Secondly, I believe in such a case the DA will only bring charges if the injured party presses. Owen would know that definitively.
Third, I sat on a Lucas County Grand Jury a few years back and I can tell you that Julia Bates is very much respected and has no worries about reelection. I can also tell you that the proceedings are nothing like you see on television. Grand jurors are instructed to listen to the evidence presented and the definition of the crime charged and determine if there is enough evidence to warrant a trial. Nothing more. In this case, the prosecutor (and asst. DA) would have read the charges, explained the difference between the felony and misdemeanor charges, what constitutes assault, and presented the evidence. It is merely the jurors' duty to
-Know what constitutes assault
-Know what constitutes felony assault
-Know what constitutes misdemeanor assault
-Decide whether or not the DA has presented enough evidence to convince them that a trial should happen.

That's it.

All the folks on the Huskie board can get all bent out of shape over this horrible transgression against their player, but he made a bad choice. Bad choices get made all the time. Sometimes, they have very serious consequences. Sometimes, those consequences cost a lot, even to people who are not directly involved (family especially).

What I suspect will happen has already been spelled out above. Both charges were filed and I believe the felony charge will go away. Printing the possible maximum sentence is pretty much standard procedure. Actually receiving the possible maximum sentence, not so much.

(03-19-2012 10:03 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(03-19-2012 09:59 PM)7 Wrote:  Since when is running into somebody assault?! Especially on a football field? How could you Toledo idiots possibly defend this? My God.

It is assault when you intentional run over someone who is defenseless and not partaking in football. But I guess, according to you, that since it was on a football field then it is ok to run anyone over and not be punished for it. Face it, he was wrong, he is being charged accordingly. If he is innocent then nothing will come of it. If he is found guilty then he will pay.

You don't even know what an assault is, and yet you shoot off your mouth!

Why don't you go look it up and then come back and correct yourself, apologize for wasting our time reading your ignorance, and then continue. Thank you.

Anyone know any good lawyer friends? Let's start going after Toldeo. First, we will sue the band and band director for negligence for having the band on the field when they were not supposed to be. If the band is off the field when they are supposed to be, there is no problem. Maybe it wasn't this band members fault, but it sure was someone's. Who is supervising the band, who has them on the field when they are not supposed to be. I will not rest until the band director gets 25 to life. There is a time where a team has to take the field, if the band is in the way, good luck stopping 65 jacked up athletes. What's next, Toledo suing NIU for battery for beating their ass on the field?

(03-20-2012 08:35 AM)HUSKIE44 Wrote:  Anyone know any good lawyer friends? Let's start going after Toldeo. First, we will sue the band and band director for negligence for having the band on the field when they were not supposed to be. If the band is off the field when they are supposed to be, there is no problem. Maybe it wasn't this band members fault, but it sure was someone's. Who is supervising the band, who has them on the field when they are not supposed to be. I will not rest until the band director gets 25 to life. There is a time where a team has to take the field, if the band is in the way, good luck stopping 65 jacked up athletes. What's next, Toledo suing NIU for battery for beating their ass on the field?

I am sure it's already in the Toledo court system.

You are right. Bass and NIU should file a counter-suit against the Toledo band.

(03-20-2012 08:35 AM)HUSKIE44 Wrote:  I will not rest until the band director gets 25 to life.

Good luck, OJ.

(03-20-2012 06:26 AM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  The fact that Compher went out of his way to say that Bass was still enrolled in the university and still a member of the football team tells me all I need to know about his opinion of the charges. My guess would be he hasn't said anything more because our guys are taking a good, long look at the grand jury report to find out exactly where this came from before making a full on response.

Where was this?

NM
http://www.huskiewire.com/articles/2012/.../index.xml

(03-19-2012 11:13 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  Anyone who knows the NCAA rules, please post here if we're allowed to contribute to his legal fees. This is ******* ridiculous. A felony, unfuckingreal.

I asked about this and anyone that is a HASF donor CANNOT give money to JB for any reason...as long as he is a student athlete.

I am asking about Season ticket holders that are not HASF donors.