(01-14-2012 10:33 PM)Max Power Wrote:  Also I saw a poll yesterday which said 43% of America thinks Tebow is winning games because of divine intervention. That pissed me off, less at Tim Tebow than stupid people, but I still want him to get crushed.

Take your "thought" and go float down the Illinois "green river".

Talk about "crushed"... I'd love to see a bunch of idiots steam rolled. You can start with the loon at 1600 PA Ave, in DC.

(01-15-2012 12:17 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 11:29 PM)Paul M Wrote:  The tolerant left. I guess they use up so much on the gays, criminals and terrorists they just don't have any left for the one group who doesn't even need any.

If they don't need any then what's the problem?

(01-15-2012 12:16 AM)Max Power Wrote:  And do you have proof of this intent?

Um, your own words?

Let's review.

Quote:Haha where's your God now Tebow?

You mock Tebow here, not because he's having a bad game, but because of his belief in God. You mock him in much the same way Christ was mocked by soldiers prior to his crucifixion.

Your mockery led Smaug to ask why people hate Tebow? You responded with 3 reasons.

Reason #1

Quote:He throws like a girl

Nothing really earth shattering in that, save the stupidity in thinking you could throw the ball any better or that Tebow couldn't destroy you in any football related skill. But I digress.

Reason #2 why you hate Tebow

Quote:Christians won't stop talking about him

Why do you care that Christians talk about him? Lots of people talk about him, atheists included. But you single out Christians doing so as a reason for your hatred of Tebow. Since you have already mocked him for his Christian faith by asking "Where is your God now Tebow?" it's clear you single Christians out for the same reason. You hate Tebow because Christians who share is belief in God, a belief you are on record as mocking, won't stop talking about him. It's clearly not their simple act of talking about him you hate because, as I said, many people talk about him that aren't Christians and you didn't bring them up. What makes Christians different than everyone else that talks about him? That would be their shared belief with Tebow, which you have mocked.

Reason #3

Quote:Fox news won't stop talking about him

One could ask why you don't hate ESPN as well since they have devoted exponentially more hours to talking about Tebow than Fox has. So again it's not the act of talking about him that fuels your hate, rather who it is that does the talking and what distinguishes them in your mind. In Fox's case it's their "bias" that you believe they have. But that's neither here nor there as it relates to your anti-Christian bigotry.

Quote:big·ot
noun
a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

Your own words are proof of your bigotry. You mock Tebow for his belief in God and you list as a reason for hating him that Christians won't stop talking about him. As I pointed out, the simple act of talking about him isn't what fuels your hatred as there are many others that talk about him as well who aren't Christians. So we focus on what would focus your ire on Christians as opposed to others. The only differentiation is that Christians believe in God. And your disdain for those who believe in God has it's support in your own words via your mocking of Tebow for his belief in God.

That is your proof. Your own words. This is how deductive logic works. I know you don't recognize it as you've never participated in it.

This is great.

Unfortunately, no, that's not deductive logic at all. You say ESPN talks about him too, but you have no proof that I watch ESPN. There your deductive chain falls apart.

No, ESPN's TT talk doesn't annoy me because I don't watch much of their programming. I watch Fox News about an hour every night and I was getting sick of Shepard Smith and BillO openly rooting for him and talking about what a great guy he is. You know who else is a great guy? Tom Brady. Better quarterback too. But I've never seen Fox News fawn over him, and I'm watching Fox News right now and the morning guy just said "unfortunately " TT lost. WTF?

The Christian comment was a reference to Facebook friends' status updates rooting for Tebow. I never said no one else is out there pumping up TT. Feel free to add more.

(01-15-2012 08:56 AM)Max Power Wrote:  but you have no proof that I watch ESPN.

Quote:No, ESPN's TT talk doesn't annoy me because I don't watch much of their programming.

I was making a reasonable assumption. You have now validated it. So what you have just done, unknowingly of course, is reinforced my argument.

Quote:I watch Fox News about an hour every night and I was getting sick of Shepard Smith and BillO openly rooting for him and talking about what a great guy he is.

I see. So you just happen to tune in for that one hour block each night where Smith then O'Reilly would talk about him. Somewhat implausible but I'll take your word for it.

Quote:The Christian comment was a reference to Facebook friends' status updates rooting for Tebow. I never said no one else is out there pumping up TT. Feel free to add more.

I see. So you came here to mock what a friend of your's said on Facebook? Does your friend read this board? Will they know that you mocked them here? If not is your plan to post a link on their wall to this page and say, "ha, ha, I mocked your Facebook status on a message board you don't read?"

You should probably note that this in no way changes the fact that you mocked Tebow for his faith and said you hate him because Christians won't stop talking about him. As I pointed out, the only reason you single out Christians is based on whatever they have in common with Tebow, which is their faith.

My position that you are a bigot is intact and still well substantiated by your own words. Nothing you just wrote refutes anything that I stated in my last response.

I watch fox. More than an hour a day. I've heard much praise of Brady by fox hosts and guests. Including Shep and Bill.

Fox is fixing to do another segment on Tebow, faith and football.

Now they're just trying to make your head explode Max.

(01-15-2012 09:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  I watch fox. More than an hour a day. I've heard much praise of Brady by fox hosts and guests. Including Shep and Bill.

And there you have it folks. The #1 reason why Paul is clueless about most everything he posts.

LOL, why was that a reasonable assumption Mr Deductive Logic? You know about my television watching habits how exactly?

I didn't validate your assumption. The specific assumption you were relying on is that I watched Tim Tebow hype on ESPN and Fox News and only bashed Fox for it. I only watch ESPN if there is a college football or MNF game that interests me. No I haven't seen the hype, and even if I did the threshold would be higher than Fox News because ESPN is a sports network, so I'd give them a little leeway.

A couple nights ago Smith had a 5 minute segment on Tebow and showed that poll I mentioned, and then O'Reilly had a segment talking about him and then later fawned over him with Dennis Miller. Those are about the only two shows I can stomach.

Oh and the "where's your God now" remark was a joke. I don't hate Christians for being Christians.

I stand corrected if they did talk about Brady. But certainly the frequency is nowhere close.

(01-15-2012 09:33 AM)Max Power Wrote:  LOL, why was that a reasonable assumption Mr Deductive Logic? You know about my television watching habits how exactly?

Know? No. That's why it's an assumption. Get a dictionary.

Quote:A couple nights ago Smith had a 5 minute segment on Tebow and showed that poll I mentioned, and then O'Reilly had a segment talking about him and then later fawned over him with Dennis Miller. Those are about the only two shows I can stomach.

I see. So you saw one night of Tebow talk on Fox and that equals "Fox won't stop talking about him." Either your threshold for "won't stop talking" is staggeringly low or you're lying. Either is plausible.

Quote:Oh and the "where's your God now" remark was a joke. I don't hate Christians for being Christians.

Plausible if you had not also included Christians in your reasons for hating Tebow.

Your words show you to be a bigot. That still remains unchallenged.

But how can it be "reasonable" if you know nothing about me?

I didn't say that was the only occasion I've seen Fox talk about Tebow. Christ. You have serious reading comprehension problems. Especially for a guy who claims to understand deductive logic.

I said I didn't like Christians and gave the reason that they won't stop talking about TT. In other words, clearly limiting the scope of the comment. Liking TT is not an immutable trait of Christians, ergo I do not hate Christians for being Christians.

(01-15-2012 09:58 AM)Max Power Wrote:  But how can it be "reasonable" if you know nothing about me?

I didn't say that was the only occasion I've seen Fox talk about Tebow. Christ. You have serious reading comprehension problems. Especially for a guy who claims to understand deductive logic.

You really should quit while you're ahead. You're just embarrassing yourself. You realize you've zeroed in your entire defense on my assumption (correct as it turns out) that you watch ESPN. Yet you've not offered anything in the way of defending your position against the actual points I made. That should tell you something, but obviously it doesn't.

Quote:I said I didn't like Christians and gave the reason that they won't stop talking about TT. In other words, clearly limiting the scope of the comment. Liking TT is not an immutable trait of Christians, ergo I do not hate Christians for being Christians.

Had you not mocked Tebow with your "Where is your God now" comment this might be plausible. You continually want to ignore one of your comments as you try do defend the other, forgetting that one builds off the other forming a picture of how you feel.

You mock God, then you say you hate Tebow because Christians won't stop talking about him. You are correct, all Christians don't talk about Tebow. But all Christians do believe in God. A God that you mocked another Christian for believing in.

You have no defense for your bigotry because your own words have exposed you. Your pathetic attempts and justifying it by claiming you ventured to this message board to crack a joke about a friend of your's Facebook status is pathetic on its face. The lunacy of such a statement is only surpassed by ignorance it took to think it was actually a plausible excuse that anyone other than someone of your limited metal capacity would buy.

You mocked God, you mocked Christians and used them as a reason you hate Tebow. The question is settled. You're an anti-Christian bigot who lacks the testicular fortitude to at least acknowledge what is clear to anyone who has read your posts.

(01-15-2012 09:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-15-2012 09:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  I watch fox. More than an hour a day. I've heard much praise of Brady by fox hosts and guests. Including Shep and Bill.

And there you have it folks. The #1 reason why Paul is clueless about most everything he posts.

It's well known that as Speaker, Nancy Pelosi made regular trips back to San Francisco. Pre/post her Speaker position also. So what, they all go home. I made the unpardonable mistake of exaggerating (something I believe you have freely admitted to doing yourself) the frequency of those trips.

And yet for all your claims that I lie and know nothing, that is the only thing you have found to ding my rep on. An exaggeration.

You, along with your fellow leftists, have been guilty far more of spin, subterfuge, falsehoods and outright blatant lies than the rest here.

Get a new tag line.

My entire defense of what? I pointed out that you had no idea about my TV watching habits because it shows you're full of $hit (when you said I was singling out Fox and Christians because ESPN had Tebow coverage too). And it proves you know nothing about deductive logic, which you were touting. Whether you admit it or not, it's pretty plain.

Which point have I not addressed?

Sorry, I still don't see how saying I hate Christians for talking about Tebow makes the "Where is your god now" joke bigoted. One is a joke and the other is a complaint about overhyping. They don't "feed" off each other, except in your victimized mindset; a world where Christmas is under attack by roving bands of secular progressives who inspired the Grinch movie; where Iraq has WMDs and will blow us all up because your neocon heroes say so; where trickle down economics is serious theory; where all climate and evolutionary scientists are conspired against you; and where corporations are everyday joes who just can't get ahead in this world, especially if those corporations are oppressed white males. So I give you the benefit of the doubt and say your dishonest deflections and spin and attempts to reframe the issue are a product of your delusions and not evidence of an intent to mislead.. even though by your definition of deductive logic one could make such a case. Good day sir.

Whatever gets you through the night bigot.

TTJGSA.

(01-15-2012 11:17 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(01-15-2012 09:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-15-2012 09:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  I watch fox. More than an hour a day. I've heard much praise of Brady by fox hosts and guests. Including Shep and Bill.

And there you have it folks. The #1 reason why Paul is clueless about most everything he posts.

It's well known that as Speaker, Nancy Pelosi made regular trips back to San Francisco. Pre/post her Speaker position also. So what, they all go home. I made the unpardonable mistake of exaggerating (something I believe you have freely admitted to doing yourself) the frequency of those trips.

And yet for all your claims that I lie and know nothing, that is the only thing you have found to ding my rep on. An exaggeration.

You, along with your fellow leftists, have been guilty far more of spin, subterfuge, falsehoods and outright blatant lies than the rest here.

Get a new tag line.

Paul, you take things WAAAAAY to seriously on here. I'm just having fun with you. It relieves the stress of the work day!

And as far as the sig line. I have them all turned off so I didn't even realize I still had one.

"Where is your God now" sounds like a little joke that the Columbine killers said one day.

(01-15-2012 04:04 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  "Where is your God now" sounds like a little joke that the Columbine killers said one day.

I thought they determined that was an urban legend?