(05-05-2011 04:10 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(05-05-2011 04:05 PM)Stumpbuster Wrote:  

(05-05-2011 04:04 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(05-05-2011 04:02 PM)Stumpbuster Wrote:  

(05-05-2011 03:57 PM)mairving Wrote:  I'm with you. It will be interesting to see how this search goes. Wolken just said that he would go with Donovan, Jay Wright and Sean Miller and go from there. The other from Evan Daniel was only responding to someone else's rumor.

I have asked Wolken what connections Miller has with Maryland b/c I do not know of any. Would he really want to follow a legend and/or compete w/ K and Roy every year?

It will be interesting what Parrish says

I don't think that there are any. The big plus is that it's an ACC job and in a recruiting hotbed.

Top notch facilities as well. The Miller-thing surprised me as well. But one writier tweeted that he knows of several high profile coaches that would "crawl" to Maryland.

Look at how many recruits, Durant, Gay, Anthony, Barton, Selby, etc. come from the area. Just snag a guy or two from there and you are good to go.

Bingo. One reason that Maryland is a great job is the same reason that we all say that Memphis is a great job. The Baltimore-DC area might even be a bigger hoops hotbed than Memphis.

Kevin Durant
Rudy Gay
Carmelo Anthony
Will Barton
Antonio Barton
Josh Selby
Joey Dorsey
Michael Beasley
Roy Hibbert
Jeff Green
Austin Freeman
Ty Lawson
Nolan Smith

All are local player who Williams either didn't recrtuit or didn't get. You recruit at home in Maryland/DC and you have top 10 recruiting classes year in and year out. Williams refused to play the AAU game. He got his championship and rested on his laurels. You get a great recruiter in there and you've got a gold mine.

(05-05-2011 06:44 PM)halo27legend Wrote:  Miller isn't leaving Zona for Maryland. Maryland is not a top 5 job. That is complete garbage. Parrish is good, but this opinion is total crap...

First, if Parrish said that Maryland is a top 5 job he just lost all credibility. Man my grandmother can rattle off more than five schools better than Maryland. Second, I doubt Miller leaves 'Zona for Maryland, but if he does, I have no doubt that Josh would want the 'Zona job.

IMO, Maryland isn't even in the top 20 coaching job list.

If it's NTR, why post it here?

(05-06-2011 12:04 AM)68Tiger Wrote:  If it's NTR, why post it here?

^^this^^

I don't know where Maryland stands on the list, but Top 5 is ridiculous. That would be Duke, UNC, UK, Kansas and UCLA. But that's not all that relevant, anyway. It's a really good job, but you do have to fight the Carolina schools to have any success.

I saw an ESPN story yesterday that listed 8 mainstream coaching possibilities. Don't have the link, but it wouldn't be hard to find. Included Brad Stevens, Shaka Smart, Mark Few, etc. Miller was not on that list.

And even if Miller was on it, there is no guarantee that he would be offered. And even if offered, there is no guarantee he would accept.

And even if he accepted, there is no guarantee, by a long shot, imo, that Josh would accept at this time.

That's a lot of ifs in my book.

Okay, back to the storm coming, lol. That's more fun than this.

(05-05-2011 05:43 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(05-05-2011 05:12 PM)IceColdBrewski Wrote:  I remember hearing a Josh Pastner interview that he gave to an Arizona radio station just after Cal accepted the UK job. Arizona was looking for a coach at the time, so the question naturally came up whether Josh would ever take the job if offered. He said he would crawl back home to Tucson to accept the job if it was ever offered. He didn't even try to hide his enthusiasm.

Make no mistake about it. Arizona is Josh's dream job. If offered the job, he'll seriously consider it at the very least.

Sounds like he was campaigning for a head job. Don't think he doesn't have some loyalty to Memphis now. We gave him a chance, y'all didn't.

FWIW---Campaigning for a head job very rarely works. It just has to happen. I know.

Well the one thing I know for sure is that if Arizona were to come calling for Josh he would definitely listen. A lot of dominoes have to fall for that to ACTUALLY happen but I do believe there will come a time when Josh will have to make a decision about Arizona. If he ever decides to leave I just hope he doesn't try and decimate our program in the process the way Cal did. In the meantime, I am not going to worry too much about it, because there isn't one damn thing I can do to change whatever is going to happen in the coaching world of college basketball!

Even if Josh leaves at some point, it takes a certain type of person to trash the program on the way out the door. Ole Roy didn't do it going from KU to UNC. Huggy Bear didn't do it going from KSU to WV.

Going back some time, Bob Vanatta didn't do it going from Memphis to Vanderbilt. Bartow didn't do it going from Memphis to Illinois.

Cal did it to us. But that doesn't mean Josh will do it. Doesn't seem to be Josh's style. Cal and Josh are definitely not the same person. Doesn't take much to figure that out.

All this talk is a little premature, but all of you are severely delusional if you don't think Josh would SERIOUSLY consider taking an Arizona HC offer. Screw the "he just signed an extension" and "Memphis has embraced him" excuses.

I'm not so worried about Josh leaving. I'm more worried about another coaching search headed up by RC.

I agree with one someone posted earlier. At this moment in time, Gus Johnson leaving CBS is the biggest news. My favorite play by play guy is leaving March Madness, NFL CBS Sunday, and Strikeforce on CBS. It sounds like it's a dispute of money, which I can easily understand.

Off the top of my head, jobs that are DEFINITELY better than Maryland:

Duke
North Carolina
Kentucky
Kansas
UCLA
Texas
Ohio State
Michigan State

To me, jobs that are comparable:

Louisville
Pitt
Villanova
Florida

Not that big of a drop between them:

Memphis
Missouri
Oklahoma State (because of the money)
UConn

(05-06-2011 08:55 AM)Brooks H Wrote:  Off the top of my head, jobs that are DEFINITELY better than Maryland:

Duke
North Carolina
Kentucky
Kansas
UCLA
Texas
Ohio State
Michigan State

To me, jobs that are comparable:

Louisville
Pitt
Villanova
Florida

Not that big of a drop between them:

Memphis
Missouri
Oklahoma State (because of the money)
UConn

Missouri? even though they don't have a final 4? and just had to hire Frank Haith?

not that i don't believe you boss just shocked to see it next to UCONN and Memphis.

(05-06-2011 08:55 AM)Brooks H Wrote:  Off the top of my head, jobs that are DEFINITELY better than Maryland:

Duke
North Carolina
Kentucky
Kansas
UCLA
Texas
Ohio State
Michigan State

To me, jobs that are comparable:

Louisville
Pitt
Villanova
Florida

Not that big of a drop between them:

Memphis
Missouri
Oklahoma State (because of the money)
UConn

I dont think Florida is comparable. Even after two straight titles, basketball isnt as big as you would think. The O'Connell Center is comparable to the MSC as far as modern technology too. Florida is a football first school and will always be. I just dont see it as a "great job" unlike Maryland.

Im also not sure how you dont put Arizona on that list. Im not saying it because of Pastners affiliation but I am saying that having one of the best Pac 10 teams and a large alumni population in So. Cal at a basketball first school is a good job. Id have to put it in the "comparable" category at least.

So, now, when any good job pops open, posters will do everything to belittle the job in comparison to the Memphis job?

Low self-esteem much?

Brey
Dixon
Miller
Wright
Smart

that's the list per Parrish

(05-06-2011 09:21 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  So, now, when any good job pops open, posters will do everything to belittle the job in comparison to the Memphis job?

Low self-esteem much?

I don't get that impression. I think people are just saying Maryland is not a Top 5 job, as was stated by Parrish or whoever. It isn't. But it's definitely a really good job, in arguably the best BB conference in the country, along with the BE.

As for Brooks' list, I would throw Arizona and Syracuse in there somewhere, and maybe Michigan and Indiana and West Virginia.

I think the Top 5 are pretty much hard to argue. After that, there are maybe 15-20 more programs that you could rank almost anywhere. Memphis is one. Maryland is another.

ESPN did a ranking of programs 3 years ago, based on tourney results and other factors starting from 1985. Memphis ranked 14th, and that was BEFORE our run to the championship game that season. We're definitely still that high, if not slightly higher now. Can't recall where Maryland fell.

However, I'm not sure how this discussion is all that relevant. I think Josh would seriously consider leaving for one of the Top 5 schools, plus Arizona, or the NBA. That's about it.

But we are a LONG way from that even being a possibility in this case. Miller is not in the top ten on most sportswriters' speculative lists of replacements at Maryland. Beyond that, there is no guarantee that Miller would leave Arizona, and there is no guarantee that Arizona would hire Josh.

Nothing more than a mildly interesting off season topic.

Seems like a solid and approachable list. Why didnt they put Coach K, Dean Smith, and Phiil Jackson on there? Oh wait, theyre not that stupid.

(05-06-2011 09:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-06-2011 09:21 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  So, now, when any good job pops open, posters will do everything to belittle the job in comparison to the Memphis job?

Low self-esteem much?

I don't get that impression. I think people are just saying Maryland is not a Top 5 job, as was stated by Parrish or whoever. It isn't. But it's definitely a really good job, in arguably the best BB conference in the country, along with the BE.

As for Brooks' list, I would throw Arizona and Syracuse in there somewhere, and maybe Michigan and Indiana and West Virginia.

I think the Top 5 are pretty much hard to argue. After that, there are maybe 15-20 more programs that you could rank almost anywhere. Memphis is one. Maryland is another.

ESPN did a ranking of programs 3 years ago, based on tourney results and other factors starting from 1985. Memphis ranked 14th, and that was BEFORE our run to the championship game that season. We're definitely still that high, if not slightly higher now. Can't recall where Maryland fell.

However, I'm not sure how this discussion is all that relevant. I think Josh would seriously consider leaving for one of the Top 5 schools, plus Arizona, or the NBA. That's about it.

But we are a LONG way from that even being a possibility in this case. Miller is not in the top ten on most sportswriters' speculative lists of replacements at Maryland. Beyond that, there is no guarantee that Miller would leave Arizona, and there is no guarantee that Arizona would hire Josh.

Nothing more than a mildly interesting off season topic.

Josh's daughter is a Memphian. He can't leave.

(05-06-2011 09:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-06-2011 09:21 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  So, now, when any good job pops open, posters will do everything to belittle the job in comparison to the Memphis job?

Low self-esteem much?

I don't get that impression. I think people are just saying Maryland is not a Top 5 job, as was stated by Parrish or whoever. It isn't. But it's definitely a really good job, in arguably the best BB conference in the country, along with the BE.

As for Brooks' list, I would throw Arizona and Syracuse in there somewhere, and maybe Michigan and Indiana and West Virginia.

I think the Top 5 are pretty much hard to argue. After that, there are maybe 15-20 more programs that you could rank almost anywhere. Memphis is one. Maryland is another.

ESPN did a ranking of programs 3 years ago, based on tourney results and other factors starting from 1985. Memphis ranked 14th, and that was BEFORE our run to the championship game that season. We're definitely still that high, if not slightly higher now. Can't recall where Maryland fell.

However, I'm not sure how this discussion is all that relevant. I think Josh would seriously consider leaving for one of the Top 5 schools, plus Arizona, or the NBA. That's about it.

But we are a LONG way from that even being a possibility in this case. Miller is not in the top ten on most sportswriters' speculative lists of replacements at Maryland. Beyond that, there is no guarantee that Miller would leave Arizona, and there is no guarantee that Arizona would hire Josh.

Nothing more than a mildly interesting off season topic.

Andy I agree with most of your post. I am going to say that I hope the one school that Josh wouldn't leave us for is kentucky. I just don't think I could get past that, even with Josh. That would be awful. Just sayin!!

I'd be excited if I were a Terp fan. Williams just hasn't been getting it done lately.