(01-10-2011 04:57 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote:  \

Though, I'd tell Glenn Beck... This Republic is bigger than any one person, or their family.

Yeah, he's pretty much been saying that for over a year, so I don't know where you're going with that.

(01-10-2011 05:02 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(01-10-2011 04:57 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote:  \

Though, I'd tell Glenn Beck... This Republic is bigger than any one person, or their family.

Yeah, he's pretty much been saying that for over a year, so I don't know where you're going with that.

He's been telling Sarah Palin that if something happenned to her or her family, it would be the end of the Republic? I think that's total BS. I've yet to hear him say that one.... but I don't watch his show on a regular basis.

(01-10-2011 04:57 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote:  violence is never acceptable in political discourse.

So, you're a Tory? A Loyalist to King George?

(01-10-2011 05:22 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-10-2011 04:57 PM)CountryRedHawk Wrote:  violence is never acceptable in political discourse.

So, you're a Tory? A Loyalist to King George?

They started it! Tar the vilain! TAR HIM! *goes back to watching John Adams*

(01-10-2011 04:45 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(01-10-2011 04:05 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(01-10-2011 03:21 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(01-10-2011 02:52 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(01-10-2011 02:49 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  I think Loughner planned to save the last bullet for himself. But we got lucky and finally took a mass murderer alive for once.

You say that as if that's a good thing.

He doesn't get the coward's way out. He has to answer to the charges in Court, and gets to spend the rest of his life in a living Hell of his own making.

This trial will be a HOLE. LEE. CIRCUS, as all sides hang onto every utterance, every piece of discovery, every piece of minutiae as evidence that some side of the political spectrum is 100% directly responsible for this ******.

Maybe he was smart enough to know a trial and national attention would make him infamous, fame he could never have in real life.

Smart? This twirp? Grinning on a Federal Mugshot.

Breezed through the Guardian a little while ago (a left-leaning UK outlet) that is popular with both US and UK posters. Here's a sampling from the Comments Section of what is currently spinning in the minds of the Left. This was only on Page 1:

- Demagoguery hardly leads to positive outcomes. That's a lesson American right-wingers should urgently learn...

- Sue Palin for indicing political and racial hatred among fellow American citizens!

- The right wing nutty rhetoric is partly responsible for this tragedy. It empowers unstable nutcases to believe that they have justice on their side.

- But this should be the moment where america wakes up and makes fox news etc accountable.....

- I hope the person who Palin put in the crosshairs sues the *** off her.
And I hope those who were collateral damage in the offensive action do the same.

- Gleen Beck can give it but he can't take responsibility for the consequences.

- Sad to say, but all these Tea Party members are absolute nut cases, and to let them own guns is just unbelieveable.

- Well, at least the gunman was a 'real American' as the likes of Palin might label him.


There ya go.

You'd think by today they would be saying "oops, made a mistake, again. Better shut up."

(01-10-2011 08:01 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Breezed through the Guardian a little while ago (a left-leaning UK outlet) that is popular with both US and UK posters. Here's a sampling from the Comments Section of what is currently spinning in the minds of the Left. This was only on Page 1:

- Demagoguery hardly leads to positive outcomes. That's a lesson American right-wingers should urgently learn...

- Sue Palin for indicing political and racial hatred among fellow American citizens!

- The right wing nutty rhetoric is partly responsible for this tragedy. It empowers unstable nutcases to believe that they have justice on their side.

- But this should be the moment where america wakes up and makes fox news etc accountable.....

- I hope the person who Palin put in the crosshairs sues the *** off her.
And I hope those who were collateral damage in the offensive action do the same.

- Gleen Beck can give it but he can't take responsibility for the consequences.

- Sad to say, but all these Tea Party members are absolute nut cases, and to let them own guns is just unbelieveable.

- Well, at least the gunman was a 'real American' as the likes of Palin might label him.


There ya go.

I wish news outlets all over would just realize that this was a crazy dude. Everyone that knew him said the same. While a real problem, rhetoric probably didn't cause this incident.

It really sucks that America has become such a blame game supported by the 24/7 conditioning that we get from a completely biased media, including ALL of the major outlets.

Probably the best op-ed I've seen of the left's 'reaction' to the tragedy. Great column. From the Washington Post, no less:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...03002.html

I mentioned this leading up to the Congressional election last year. The liberals spent far little time explaining their ideas the past 2 years, and far too much time railing on and on about "teabaggers", Fox News and Sarah Palin, who's little more than a reality TV show knob at this point.

I may have disagreed with the majority of what the Democrats, and their lapdogs in the media, were selling, particularly on the economic front. But at least I'd have maintained a level of respect. But instead it's just a steady stream of opportunistic blame games and double standards (when it's an Islamist shooter or Discovery Channel gunman, we're supposed to "calm down, not make assumptions and wait for the details to come out" ... when it's a crazed nut who shows absolutely no ties to the Tea Party, blame anyway).

Apparently, their lesson from last November hasn't been learned. And this latest round will backfire for the Left, as the moderates and Independents will see right through it all.

(01-11-2011 07:35 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Probably the best op-ed I've seen of the left's 'reaction' to the tragedy. Great column. From the Washington Post, no less:

Although the op-ed was published in the WaPo, it is written by a conservative author, Marc Thiessen

(01-10-2011 07:37 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

Smart? This twirp? Grinning on a Federal Mugshot.

Amazing. That's how I pictured Mach. For real.

Good One.......................

Who is this guy?

A. Mr. Clean.

B. Uncle Fester from the Addams Family.

C. Some lunatic that will be spending 10 years in the Supermax before he gets executed.

It's a haunting image. The eyes of a madman. The smirk.............


I'd love just to beat the piss out of this guy though.................

(01-11-2011 01:39 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It's a haunting image. The eyes of a madman. The smirk.............


I'd love just to beat the piss out of this guy though.................

What if the target was Palin? Would you still feel that way?

(01-11-2011 01:39 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It's a haunting image. The eyes of a madman. The smirk.............

Out of context there is nothing "haunting" about this image. There is nothing sinister about his eyes or his smirk.

But, phrenology ranks right up there w/ AGW and Darwinism.

(01-11-2011 01:24 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

Who is this guy?

A. Mr. Clean.

B. Uncle Fester from the Addams Family.

C. Some lunatic that will be spending 10 years in the Supermax before he gets executed.

D. Long lost son of our (WMU) men's basketball head coach.

but in the context it is................... the dipshit killed 6 people including a 9 yr. old. That smirk makes my blood boil.

In the mugshot, he looks older than 22

When I first saw that mugshot, I, too thought that I would love to wipe that smirk off his face with a right cross.

But that is the difference between a sane person who is stable and this dreck of a human with obvious mental problems. We stable humans don't act on those impulses. We know it is wrong and we know that there are consequences for our actions. By assaulting him or killing him outright, we would be no better than him.

There is a major difference between "wishing" we could get retribution ourselves and actually acting on those impulses. I'm betting there are millions of us that would personally wish to have a 10 minute unsupervised "visit" with this guy in his cell. This fantasy in our minds is OK because nobody really gets hurt.

Smirking boy may not be so gleeful, though, when he gets to the big house. That's a whole new level of craziness for which he won't be equipped.

Man, I'm scaring myself. It seems that I am agreeing with Mach.