SumOfAllFears Wrote:RobertN, Put down the koolaid and step away from the keyboard. Your drivel is mind numbing.

What is the matter? Can't handle the TRUTH?

firmbizzle Wrote:I understand you conservatives are standing on your principles. However, people can cook principles on the stove and they haven't invented the car that runs on principles.

Conservative principles are what builds business and economies so people have the things you talk about.

Surely the 20th C is rife with examples of failed nations built on socialism. Is it really that much to expect people to know a little something?

tigertom Wrote:

RockyMtnRamfan Wrote:The idiots from the South shouldn't have a say in this, because they elected Bush.

You know, I lived in the beautiful state of Colorado for twenty years. I NEVER met an a--hole like you in my entire time. You are beyond help. I hope you graduate/leave your school of philosophy/polysci and disappear somewhere beyond Burlington and are NEVER heard from again.

YOU ACT LIKE A

I think the issue is that it's finals week and we know that RockyMtnRamfan isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the box. So he's stressed, and venting toward everyone else.

If only he could have socialism in the classroom, then he could share the grades of folks who do the work...or at least get a bailout after not studying for the entire term!

Paul M Wrote:

RobertN Wrote:So when they lose their job and their houses-no unemployment, no shelter for them(who the heck cares if oit is 12 degrees). no !short term welfare, no food stamps. You are definately the perfect portrait of a "compassionate conservative". It is only about "me" and "screw everyone else".

You have an amazing ability to not comprehind what you read.

Machiavelli Wrote:Thanks guys. It would be nice if we could find a map on how they voted. I was driving literally around Ohio today running errands for my wife. I had to go to 7 different Kohl's stores throughout Northern Ohio. I had alot of time to think and I started a debate with myself. On one hand I ran across exactly 2 K-Marts from Findlay Oh, to Lorain, to Avon, to Medina, To Parma, to Highland Hieghts. At every Kohl's there were Home Depots, Panerra Breads. It was almost a cookie cutter approach to just about every shopping place. Now hear me out. What happened to all the K-Marts????? 20 years ago you had K-Marts and the malls. I remember going X-mas shopping and you hit the malls and K-Mart. We didn't have a Kohl's. We didn't have the plethora of choices. Nobody is bailing out K-Mart workers. So I guess for the first time today I came to that realization. The strongest survive.............................. These choices are alot better than we had before..............



Now on the other HAND............. These non-union states have no idea what it is to create wealth.

Are you kidding me?

You have never had a job in the commercial sector, and you know what it takes to build wealth?

Again w/ spouting ignorance with such abandon! Sorry Mach, we're not ignorant 13 year olds who scribble notes and believe your every fairy tale.

You're such a poser, a coward who can't compete in the free market, so he criticizes it at every turn. And the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Make a pie from that.

DrTorch Wrote:

firmbizzle Wrote:I understand you conservatives are standing on your principles. However, people can cook principles on the stove and they haven't invented the car that runs on principles.

Conservative principles are what builds business and economies so people have the things you talk about.

Surely the 20th C is rife with examples of failed nations built on socialism. Is it really that much to expect people to know a little something?

Conservative priciples also destroys economies, and put us in the current situations. History repeating itself.

Do you ever have anything constructive to say??? Your a broken record with the worn out 13 yr. old line Dungeon Master. At first I found it funny but after using it every other post it's become stale. Your a **** roach.

You have never had a job in the commercial sector, and you know what it takes to build wealth?

Retard I worked my way through college and have had summer jobs to supplement my income. You don't know me, for that I am thankful. It's too bad they don't have internet restraining orders.

cb4029 Wrote:

DrTorch Wrote:

firmbizzle Wrote:I understand you conservatives are standing on your principles. However, people can cook principles on the stove and they haven't invented the car that runs on principles.

Conservative principles are what builds business and economies so people have the things you talk about.

Surely the 20th C is rife with examples of failed nations built on socialism. Is it really that much to expect people to know a little something?

Conservative priciples also destroys economies, and put us in the current situations. History repeating itself.

Once again, using an emoticon doesn't negate the silliness of your post. What got us into this mess were not conservative principles. QED.

Machiavelli Wrote:Do you ever have anything constructive to say??? Your a broken record with the worn out 13 yr. old line but after using it every other post it's become stale.

Yeah, so are your absurd, juvenile posts. Why can't you get the hint? If you want to converse with adults, then act like one.

How in the hell did Shelby and Sessions "wreck" GM, Ford, and Chrysler? Seems to me that award goes to the people RUNNING those companies. ....and if they can't make it without forcing the taxpayers to hold their hands, they should be out of business. Packard, AMC, Eagle, Willys, how many others like these were pushed out of business by the "Big 3"?

Hell with'em. If they can't survive on their own, without my forced tax dollars, they shouldn't survive.

Rebel Wrote:Packard, AMC, Eagle, Willys, how many others like these were pushed out of business by the "Big 3"?

Hell with'em. If they can't survive on their own, without my forced tax dollars, they shouldn't survive.

AMEN!

All of these folks on the political left HATE trusts and monopolies...they hate GM for destroying public transport...they hate these companies for low fleet MPGs and selling SUVs

But suddenly, these evil institutions have to be retained using tax dollars! What kind of Bizarro world is this!?

Geez people, Reagain wasn't advocating this when he quipped this joke, "“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And If it stops moving,. subsidize it.”

OK.... take a turn....TURN LEFT...GO NORTH...ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTHWEST.

Did you get there??? OK, now tell me WHAT exactly is the matter with the International Association of Machinists? They are attempting to destroy the Boeing Company. That region almost lost the 787 Dreamliner airplane. The corporate offices have already moved. The company is sourcing segments of the 787 from around the world, including THE SOUTH !

Now, what exactly does this tell you? Remember, there are industry experts and financial experts that have already voiced their opinion on this serious matter. Tell me how good the union is doing to keep this last remaining single biggest dollar export product that this great nation manufactures (assembles now) on our home turf???

Do some research ... then wade in. Come on RockyMountainFan ... let us see some of your intelligent comment(s).

tigertom Wrote:Do some research ... then wade in.

Nah, that takes work. So much easier just talking. Edie Brickell hadn't even seen the worst of it.

Nissan is doing worse than the big three. I guess after we bail out the big three, Nissan will be entitled next.

Paul M Wrote:Nissan is doing worse than the big three. I guess after we bail out the big three, Nissan will be entitled next.

Nissan will be fine.

Rebel Wrote:

Paul M Wrote:Nissan is doing worse than the big three. I guess after we bail out the big three, Nissan will be entitled next.

Nissan will be fine.

Of course they will. Just wanted to hear from the clown section who want to bail out the big three explain why Nissan wouldn't be entitled to the same.

Paul M Wrote:Nissan is doing worse than the big three.

Links?

Carlos Ghosn runs Nissan as a cult of personality, not on good principles. Ghosn has managed Nissan by sheer will, going against all sorts of good business practices. To his credit, he's managed to make something work for years.
But, I believe they've been in trouble for some time... it's just been easier to cover a multitude of sins when the economy is strong.

Paul M Wrote:Nissan is doing worse than the big three. I guess after we bail out the big three, Nissan will be entitled next.

So was Mitsubishi. THey were very close to stopping selling cars in the US. It was up to how th sales of their recent models did here if the would stay. Apparetly they have done ok.

tigertom Wrote:OK.... take a turn....TURN LEFT...GO NORTH...ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTHWEST.

Did you get there??? OK, now tell me WHAT exactly is the matter with the International Association of Machinists? They are attempting to destroy the Boeing Company. That region almost lost the 787 Dreamliner airplane. The corporate offices have already moved. The company is sourcing segments of the 787 from around the world, including THE SOUTH !

What kills me is that we are in a recession, foreclosures are waaay up, jobs are disappearing and these bozos go on strike. Then Boeing offers each member about $36,000 in raises, bonuses and benefit increases and still these people say no. The unions want everyone to care for them but they don't care for anyone but themselves.