Ah so much idiocy to debunk, so little time.
Schaden I've already concluded you're not worth the effort to try and have a resonable discussion with, so I'll just keep reading your stuff for the chuckles it gives me.
Socko, you clearly are as out to lunch as the rest of these kids.
Quote:O little ray of Niner sunshine, thanks ever so much for coming into our lives and brightening the outlook. With your absolute certainty, you once again show us the wisdom of this administration and those who support it when they say, "How dare you question us?"
Once again you show why reason and logic play no role in the left of today. I don't have a problem with questions, I encourage them as everyone should. But questions driven by hate and personal detest for a person aren't worthy of being taken seriously. No "questions" brought up here by the Bush bashes is based on anything except personal detest for the man. Had it been Clinton sitting there they'd be arguing he was a picture of poise.
Quote:Fire chiefs didn't sit in their station houses for seven minutes after the planes started hitting, telling their boys, "Advise me if this thing looks bad enough, and I'll be down to lead you." Rudy Guiliani didn't just sit in his office. Neither did Pataki. Most Americans who heard what was going on did what we do instinctively -- headed straight to our TVs, radios or computers to find out what was going on.
Let's see here....Fire chiefs were IN NEW YORK and WASHINGTON and could directly help. Guiliani was IN NEW YORK and it was his job to take charge of the disaster in his city. Pataki was IN NEW YORK and it was his responsibility to deal with what was going on in New York. Bush was IN FLORIDA and his responsibility was to determine the scope of the attack and to gather as much information as possible. He couldn't do that alone, nor could he have gotten any more information in that 7 minutes than his advisors were gathering. The Secret Service could also have been telling him to stay put until it was determined it was safe to leave. Who knows, but the fact is those 7 minutes he spent there would not have been ANY DIFFERENT if he had left that moment.
Quote:So no one should question why our commander-in-chief sat there ignorant of what was going as his country was being attacked for seven minutes? Why he was potentially a sitting duck himself and endangering the school full of kids around him?
He was not ignorant of what was going on. He was being given info by his Chief of Staff. And you bring up an interesting question of him potentially being a sitting duck. Would it not have been prudent for the situation there to be absolutely secured for his sake and the kids? Had he rushed out immediately it could have been right into an ambush. Earlier that morning a potential assisnation attempt may have been foiled while he was on his jog at a golf course.
Quote:That's the real problem -- that you and they don't even think their leadership should be subject to this kind of questioning. It's sheer arrogance, un-American, and, to borrow your favorite word, pathetic.
Had I ever said that I would agree. But read my posts again slappy, I never said questions aren't appropriate or necessary. Questions motivated by hate are neither constructive nor helpful.
Try again.
Huskie,
Quote:You appear to be suggesting that a President can do his best work on the toilet if he chooses to, and I don't buy that.
You once again are dodging what he could have been doing in that 7 minutes had he left that wasn't already being done. The most he could do was get info, and people were doing that. It's a simple concept, it doesn't shock me it escapes you.
Quote:Should he have spent those 7 minutes gathering as much information as possible as quickly as possible? I'm amazed that you suggest not.
Show me where I suggested that. You clearly have no concept of how leadership at that level works. The president doesn't gather information himself. His advisors and the experts he has on his staff do that. They funnel him what they find and then he makes a decision. In those seven minutes ample people were trying to gather information. Only you and the rest of these bozos seem to think it would have come more quickly had he been the one making the calls to the FAA, FBI etc. :rolleyes:
Quote:You're basically suggesting that if he got information about incoming nuclear missles, he should grab a burger and some fries and get to work later. That's incomprehensibly idiotic.
Yes it is, which is why I'm not shocked you came up with it. An incoming nuclear missle is vastly different than a hijacked plane. It's alot easier to detect an incoming missle than it is to determine how many planes my have been hijacked, where they are etc. Lame analogy, but at least you're consistent.
Quote:Would you feel the same if Clinton got the news about the second plane while his knob was being polished by an intern? After all, there's still information gathering to be done by the appropriate parties, and he couldn't yet make any decisions.
So you're equating Bush reading to kids to Clinton getting a hummer? I guess it depends, was he in a school full of kids while getting it? :rolleyes:
Pathetic.