(10-16-2026 12:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 11:20 AM)b2b Wrote:  Everything is Trump's fault except when it's not then it's because a Democrat did something good.

Well, ****, most of you guys think the 9% inflation, $5 gas under Biden was basically all his fault...so now you don't want anyone on the left to apply that same standard to trump?

Seems a bit hypocritical, no?

But let's be honest. Anyone with a modicum of common sense can see the gas go from $3 to $4.50 in just a few weeks after trump started his idiotic war in Iran. So other than blaming Bibi for that, who else but trump caused that? You can't really say Ukraine as they were attacking Russian energy infrastructure for long before we started with Iran.

I'll continue to call Trump out on this stupidity. I've even started threads on it. When will you start a thread calling out Democrat stupidity? I've literally never seen it.

(10-16-2026 12:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 11:28 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 07:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-15-2026 01:08 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(10-15-2026 07:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  That would really suck if we actually bought barrels of oil to directly fuel our cars!

And who buys those barrels of oil?

THE point was that we don't buy oil for our cars gas tanks, we buy gas.

Maybe this will make more sense to you?

Quote:The national average gas price has topped $4 a gallon for a total of 158 days in 2026, setting a record for the largest number of days ever recorded above $4 in a calendar year, GasBuddy petroleum analyst Patrick De Haan said in a post on X on Wednesday.

The Iran war caused gasoline prices to surge after fighting in the Strait of Hormuz prompted a historic oil supply shock.

Gas prices set record for highest number of days above $4 a gallon in a calendar year

Heckuva job, Orangey. Oops!

Narrator: The year is not over yet.

Was my question too complicated for an answer? You being the oil & gas expert around here.

No, but it was rhetorical. It didn't need answered. Everyone knows that the whole of the globe buys the barrels of oil. But yes, you do have to understand some things about the O&G industry to know why the price that oil is being traded at on the global market doesn't always correlate 1:1 to the price at the pump. Historically, it pretty much has. But what that graphic shows is that trump has managed to manipulate the market to keep the price of oil low "ish" while gas prices remain elevated.

Protip: You'd be wise to not listen to politicians and internet memes to get your information.

Protip, you should take your own advice.

Another protip, have you ever heard of oil speculators and how they make their money?

(10-16-2026 12:59 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 11:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 11:03 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 11:01 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Weren't we told the President doesn't affect gas prices? I distinctly remember being told that.

They don't ..... except when they do.

Why are you playing along with this lunacy. You also know what I've ******* said on this time and time again.

The point was and still is, when a President of the US starts his term and comes out and states he will do everything he can to reduce our reliance on oil - that WILL have an effect on oil prices.

You chose to opine that it would not.... When one of THE LARGEST consumers oil oil and oil products on the planet says we are going to cut back, that IS going to affect prices. Adding to that statement was the timing of it which all but doubled down on already escalating upward pricing pressure (which he did not start). Biden DID affect prices just by opening his mumbling mouth and doubling down on an already volatile situation.

Waaay back then, had you just acknowledged that simple and f-ing obvious thing, half of this gas thread and veiled shots at you would never have been posted. But you know... Trumps fault, not Joe.

But. It. Did. Nothing. Of. The. Sort.

The numbers are there. Go look. It had no lasting effect on, anything! Just like nothing happened when Keystone was finally killed.

Again, stop listening to politicians. Big Oil knew full well that Biden's comments were nothing but bluster and that we are nowhere near moving towards ridding ourselves of fossil fuels.

And yes, I have admitted that his comments did have an effect. But that effect was very minimal. Again, because Big Oil is infinitely smarter than any politician...especially Biden and trump!

Finally, I've explained time and time again, trumps deal with OPEC that lasted into the middle of 2022...which slashed production bigly...was one of the biggest drivers of the $5 gas we saw under Biden. That and Russia-Ukraine, Stimulus, and Covid.

(10-16-2026 01:06 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 12:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 11:20 AM)b2b Wrote:  Everything is Trump's fault except when it's not then it's because a Democrat did something good.

Well, ****, most of you guys think the 9% inflation, $5 gas under Biden was basically all his fault...so now you don't want anyone on the left to apply that same standard to trump?

Seems a bit hypocritical, no?

But let's be honest. Anyone with a modicum of common sense can see the gas go from $3 to $4.50 in just a few weeks after trump started his idiotic war in Iran. So other than blaming Bibi for that, who else but trump caused that? You can't really say Ukraine as they were attacking Russian energy infrastructure for long before we started with Iran.

I'll continue to call Trump out on this stupidity. I've even started threads on it. When will you start a thread calling out Democrat stupidity? I've literally never seen it.

Yes, and thanks for that. And why do I need to start more threads. That's all CP and the majority of you do already. What more needs covered? The DNC is a joke. They're not worth my time.

(10-16-2026 01:08 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 12:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 11:28 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 07:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-15-2026 01:08 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  And who buys those barrels of oil?

THE point was that we don't buy oil for our cars gas tanks, we buy gas.

Maybe this will make more sense to you?

Quote:The national average gas price has topped $4 a gallon for a total of 158 days in 2026, setting a record for the largest number of days ever recorded above $4 in a calendar year, GasBuddy petroleum analyst Patrick De Haan said in a post on X on Wednesday.

The Iran war caused gasoline prices to surge after fighting in the Strait of Hormuz prompted a historic oil supply shock.

Gas prices set record for highest number of days above $4 a gallon in a calendar year

Heckuva job, Orangey. Oops!

Narrator: The year is not over yet.

Was my question too complicated for an answer? You being the oil & gas expert around here.

No, but it was rhetorical. It didn't need answered. Everyone knows that the whole of the globe buys the barrels of oil. But yes, you do have to understand some things about the O&G industry to know why the price that oil is being traded at on the global market doesn't always correlate 1:1 to the price at the pump. Historically, it pretty much has. But what that graphic shows is that trump has managed to manipulate the market to keep the price of oil low "ish" while gas prices remain elevated.

Protip: You'd be wise to not listen to politicians and internet memes to get your information.

Protip, you should take your own advice.

Another protip, have you ever heard of oil speculators and how they make their money?

Did that years ago, where you been? I listen to oil experts, not politicians.

And yes, well aware of speculators. But again, this thread is about gas prices...not oil prices.

(10-16-2026 02:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 01:08 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 12:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 11:28 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 07:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  THE point was that we don't buy oil for our cars gas tanks, we buy gas.

Maybe this will make more sense to you?

Gas prices set record for highest number of days above $4 a gallon in a calendar year

Heckuva job, Orangey. Oops!

Narrator: The year is not over yet.

Was my question too complicated for an answer? You being the oil & gas expert around here.

No, but it was rhetorical. It didn't need answered. Everyone knows that the whole of the globe buys the barrels of oil. But yes, you do have to understand some things about the O&G industry to know why the price that oil is being traded at on the global market doesn't always correlate 1:1 to the price at the pump. Historically, it pretty much has. But what that graphic shows is that trump has managed to manipulate the market to keep the price of oil low "ish" while gas prices remain elevated.

Protip: You'd be wise to not listen to politicians and internet memes to get your information.

Protip, you should take your own advice.

Another protip, have you ever heard of oil speculators and how they make their money?

Did that years ago, where you been? I listen to oil experts, not politicians.

And yes, well aware of speculators. But again, this thread is about gas prices...not oil prices.

Oil prices and gas prices have a lot in common. Try and keep up,

https://www.gasbuddy.com/home?search=395...l&maxAge=0
And oil is down %6.5 today, so look for further decreases.

(11-02-2026 09:50 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  https://www.gasbuddy.com/home?search=395...l&maxAge=0
And oil is down %6.5 today, so look for further decreases.

Maybe some hope this could be coming to an end.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/...lated.html

Though Darren Woods (Exxon CEO) is saying he expects refining to remain tight through 2027.

Of course I also remember several oil company CEOs and industry “experts” coming out of the COVID oil price crash that industry would have to learn to operate in a sub 50/bbl market for the next couple years, only to find ourselves at $80 WTI in October 2021.

FTR - Oil and gas prices ALWAYS come down this time of year.

(11-02-2026 10:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  FTR - Oil and gas prices ALWAYS come down this time of year.

True, I guess it's this time of year that they stop with the summer blend? That and maybe less summer travel?

(11-02-2026 10:46 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(11-02-2026 10:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  FTR - Oil and gas prices ALWAYS come down this time of year.

True, I guess it's this time of year that they stop with the summer blend? That and maybe less summer travel?

They actually suspended it early this year on September 1st, to try and get prices lower. That really didn't do much at the time.

It's just the basic law of demand at this point...fall/winter means less driving, less vacations, kids back in school, etc.

Let's see... Should I listen to someone who gets his "petroleum insights" from a guy who's been known to have a leftist slant in everything he does, even when it doesn't require one, or someone who actually works in the oil industry like PetroCajun? Gee whiz, Wally! The choice is hard! /sarcasm

Tom just love polishing the left's chrome it's become pathetic. (And yes, I said it. Deal with it.)

(11-02-2026 11:04 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Let's see... Should I listen to someone who gets his "petroleum insights" from a guy who's been known to have a leftist slant in everything he does, even when it doesn't require one, or someone who actually works in the oil industry like PetroCajun? Gee whiz, Wally! The choice is hard! /sarcasm

Tom just love polishing the left's chrome it's become pathetic. (And yes, I said it. Deal with it.)

No clue what you're babbling about, but nowhere did I contradict a word Petro said.

That being said, I don't know him nor his credentials. And while he seems to know what he's talking about, I've seen dozens of folks on social media who claim they work on rigs and in the fields and such who don't know what they're talking about most of the time.

I get my information from a globally recognized expert with 30 years experience in many facets of the industry. Someone who is publicly known and whose credentials are verifiable. And if you're talking about my expert, no, he's does not in any way have a "leftist" slant. He's an independent...and he takes both D's and R's to task all the time. If you have even listened to a fraction of his content, you'd know that. But yes, he does and will continue to take trump and Wright to task because they're the ones currently in charge and they are completely full of **** most of the time...not because they are Republicans.

Then tell us who it is, Tom.

Other wise, you're a liar and hypocrite on top of being a hyperpartisan left wing hack.

(11-02-2026 11:04 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Let's see... Should I listen to someone who gets his "petroleum insights" from a guy who's been known to have a leftist slant in everything he does, even when it doesn't require one, or someone who actually works in the oil industry like PetroCajun? Gee whiz, Wally! The choice is hard! /sarcasm

Tom just love polishing the left's chrome it's become pathetic. (And yes, I said it. Deal with it.)

As I said before, I like this version of you better.

(11-02-2026 02:44 PM)BirdHawkEagle Wrote:  

(11-02-2026 11:04 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Let's see... Should I listen to someone who gets his "petroleum insights" from a guy who's been known to have a leftist slant in everything he does, even when it doesn't require one, or someone who actually works in the oil industry like PetroCajun? Gee whiz, Wally! The choice is hard! /sarcasm

Tom just love polishing the left's chrome it's become pathetic. (And yes, I said it. Deal with it.)

As I said before, I like this version of you better.

I woke up in a mood this morning. lol

(11-02-2026 02:55 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(11-02-2026 02:44 PM)BirdHawkEagle Wrote:  

(11-02-2026 11:04 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Let's see... Should I listen to someone who gets his "petroleum insights" from a guy who's been known to have a leftist slant in everything he does, even when it doesn't require one, or someone who actually works in the oil industry like PetroCajun? Gee whiz, Wally! The choice is hard! /sarcasm

Tom just love polishing the left's chrome it's become pathetic. (And yes, I said it. Deal with it.)

As I said before, I like this version of you better.

I woke up in a mood this morning. lol

I'm always in a mood.

Ask my wife.

(10-16-2026 01:06 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 12:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-16-2026 11:20 AM)b2b Wrote:  Everything is Trump's fault except when it's not then it's because a Democrat did something good.

Well, ****, most of you guys think the 9% inflation, $5 gas under Biden was basically all his fault...so now you don't want anyone on the left to apply that same standard to trump?

Seems a bit hypocritical, no?

But let's be honest. Anyone with a modicum of common sense can see the gas go from $3 to $4.50 in just a few weeks after trump started his idiotic war in Iran. So other than blaming Bibi for that, who else but trump caused that? You can't really say Ukraine as they were attacking Russian energy infrastructure for long before we started with Iran.

I'll continue to call Trump out on this stupidity. I've even started threads on it. When will you start a thread calling out Democrat stupidity? I've literally never seen it.

That's because he's a hyperpartisan left wing hack who always paints Democrats in a positive light while going out of his way to slander and engage in blatant character assassination of Republicans.

(11-02-2026 02:43 PM)BirdHawkEagle Wrote:  Then tell us who it is, Tom.

Other wise, you're a liar and hypocrite on top of being a hyperpartisan left wing hack.

I've already done that about a dozen times.

Quote:Matt Randolph is a globally recognized expert in the oil and gas industry with over 33 years of experience spanning exploration, production, and strategic operations. Matt has played a key role in shaping energy standards, optimizing field development, and leading multi-billion-dollar projects across North America. His career is marked by a commitment to innovation, operational excellence, and sustainable energy solutions. A trusted voice in the industry, Matt is frequently sought after for keynote speaking engagements, advisory roles, and media commentary. He has mentored countless professionals and remains a driving force behind industry best practices and emerging energy trends. Matt is currently a principal partner in a fully integrated upstream oil and gas company.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattrandolph/

I also get a lot of information from Robert Rapier.

Quote:Robert Rapier is a chemical engineer and editor-in-chief of Shale Magazine. Mr. Rapier has 30 years of international engineering experience in the chemicals, oil and gas, and renewable energy industries, and holds several patents related to his work. He has worked in oil refining, oil production, synthetic fuels, biomass energy, and alcohol production. He is the author of multiple newsletters for Investing Daily and of the book Power Plays. Mr. Rapier has appeared on 60 Minutes, The History Channel, CNBC, Business News Network, CBC, and PBS. He is a Senior Contributor at Forbes, and his energy-themed articles have also appeared in numerous media outlets, including the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Christian Science Monitor, and The Economist.

https://www.moneyshow.com/expert/4c212b2...rt-rapier/

I still trust PetroCajun over your sources, Tom.