(11-07-2025 03:43 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If his policies are going to be such destructive failures then you guys should be thrilled. You should hope he implements them in a high profile city that none of you live in, that they fail spectacularly, and then you get to say I told you so forever and it's a massive short and long term setback to anything like this happening elsewhere. Instead, I think the real fear is he might actually do some of these things and they turn out to be popular.

You don't really understand socialism or communism, do you?

Trust me, we don't fear him implementing things that turn out to be popular, but please enlighten us with a list of what these good deeds could possibly be.

Thanks in advance.

P.S. I don't mean popular in NYC. You could put Repubs in a coliseum with hungry lions, and that would make many on your side happy.

I mean popular in the majority of the country.

(11-07-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 03:43 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If his policies are going to be such destructive failures then you guys should be thrilled. You should hope he implements them in a high profile city that none of you live in, that they fail spectacularly, and then you get to say I told you so forever and it's a massive short and long term setback to anything like this happening elsewhere. Instead, I think the real fear is he might actually do some of these things and they turn out to be popular.

Most are familiar enough with history to know these type policies do not work. Low IQ folks though love to hear that they are getting free stuff but then are surprised when the ones being taxed thru the nose to pay for the free stuff flee to more sane locations.

Yep, history shows there are no countries that provide their citizens taxpayer funded services that manage to have capitalistic economies and survive. They just don't exist anywhere...

(11-07-2025 04:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 03:43 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If his policies are going to be such destructive failures then you guys should be thrilled. You should hope he implements them in a high profile city that none of you live in, that they fail spectacularly, and then you get to say I told you so forever and it's a massive short and long term setback to anything like this happening elsewhere. Instead, I think the real fear is he might actually do some of these things and they turn out to be popular.

You don't really understand socialism or communism, do you?

Trust me, we don't fear him implementing things that turn out to be popular, but please enlighten us with a list of what these good deeds could possibly be.

Thanks in advance.

P.S. I don't mean popular in NYC. You could put Repubs in a coliseum with hungry lions, and that would make many on your side happy.

I mean popular in the majority of the country.

I understand them just fine, fine enough to know his mild arse social democrat policy proposals aren't anywhere near what actual socialism or communism are. Do you have an understanding that there's a difference between a social democrat, a socialist and a communist?

(11-07-2025 04:30 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 03:43 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If his policies are going to be such destructive failures then you guys should be thrilled. You should hope he implements them in a high profile city that none of you live in, that they fail spectacularly, and then you get to say I told you so forever and it's a massive short and long term setback to anything like this happening elsewhere. Instead, I think the real fear is he might actually do some of these things and they turn out to be popular.

Most are familiar enough with history to know these type policies do not work. Low IQ folks though love to hear that they are getting free stuff but then are surprised when the ones being taxed thru the nose to pay for the free stuff flee to more sane locations.

Yep, history shows there are no countries that provide their citizens taxpayer funded services that manage to have capitalistic economies and survive. They just don't exist anywhere...

Go ahead and list some examples but make sure you include what their tax rates, energy rates, and defense spending are. Can't wait to see the list of successful government ran food stores that are out there.

(11-07-2025 04:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 04:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 03:43 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If his policies are going to be such destructive failures then you guys should be thrilled. You should hope he implements them in a high profile city that none of you live in, that they fail spectacularly, and then you get to say I told you so forever and it's a massive short and long term setback to anything like this happening elsewhere. Instead, I think the real fear is he might actually do some of these things and they turn out to be popular.

You don't really understand socialism or communism, do you?

Trust me, we don't fear him implementing things that turn out to be popular, but please enlighten us with a list of what these good deeds could possibly be.

Thanks in advance.

P.S. I don't mean popular in NYC. You could put Repubs in a coliseum with hungry lions, and that would make many on your side happy.

I mean popular in the majority of the country.

I understand them just fine, fine enough to know his mild arse social democrat policy proposals aren't anywhere near what actual socialism or communism are. Do you have an understanding that there's a difference between a social democrat, a socialist and a communist?

No, I dropped out of school in the third grade to run a whore house. Quite successfully, too. I have now been retired for 27 years. :)

(11-07-2025 03:56 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 03:54 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 01:24 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 10:23 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 07:10 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  I understand the point that 450 (and others) are making in this thread. If whole sections of our country (Virginia very much included) are going to be this stupid and this selfish, they ought be be left to the consequences. The problem with this, as andy and others have argued, is that the damage is never so neatly confined to those who deserve it. It inevitably hurts the innocent as well.

Another observation: I disagree that this is just a Democrat problem. Conservatives ought to be, but are not, taking some serious lessons from Tuesday’s electoral wipeout. Yes, these were all blue states and cities. But the fact that the margins got worse, not better, from those in 2024 ought to register somewhere as a concern.

One explanation, and it is a fair one, is that Trump himself was not on the ballot. But if that’s what made the difference, bear in mind that he will not be on the ballot during the 2026 midterms either. And what does that say about the depth of the conservative movement? That we cannot effectively function without the active involvement of our orange daddy?

If I were Donald Trump, I would be appalled. He has done virtually everything right this past year. Yet none of it appears to make a difference to the voting public. Perhaps that is just a blue-state problem. But I think you guys are being more than a bit naive here.

So things are more affordable today than they were when he took over? He ran very explicitly on "look at how amazing and cheap things were when I was president, elect me and we'll get back to that." That was stupid, anyone who actually believed he was going to do that was stupid, but a whole lot of voters are stupid and did believe he'd make things cheaper and make their material conditions better. That ain't happened, and ain't going to happen under Trump.

I stand by my post. Donald Trump has DONE virtually everything right. (My hesitation is with the tariff policies, but that has yet to fully play out.)

Your rejoinder is only that he SPOKE incorrectly. I agree. Donald Trump is incapable of keeping his arrogant and reckless mouth shut, especially when it is in his own best interest to do so. He somehow manages to find a way to turn every stunning victory into an unnecessary distraction.

That’s who he is. He is an unfunny clown. But it does not change the fact that this clown has successfully reversed the disgraceful damage done to our nation by the Biden administration on just about every front. Or at the very least has stopped the bleeding - - as in the case of inflation.

That you cannot see this (or at least insist on denying it) does not speak well for you - - indicating a problem with either your intelligence or your love of this country.

Things that Trump didn’t do right this year :


Targeted legal immigrants, universities, and law firms with retaliatory executive orders for saying things he doesn’t like.

Attacked independent regulatory agencies independence.

Attempted to strip the power of the purse from Congress.

Attempted to take the power to regulate voting away from the states via executive orders.

Attempted to unconstitutionally end birthright citizenship via executive order.

Threatened the sovereignty of states and violated the constitution by deploying national guard troops without governor approval.

Illegally imprisoned immigrants in foreign concentration camps without due process or a trial.

Ignored court orders and attempted to undermine the authority of the judicial branch to deliver checks and balances to the executive branch.

Engaged in retaliatory firings in the DOJ of anyone who helped investigate or prosecute him for his many felonies. Engaged in general lawfare against his “enemies”.

Executed a crypto rug pull profiting $1B+ from his crypto scam.


Pardoned people who attacked police officers and attempted to stop the peaceful transition of power.

The only people who think Trump has done everything right are the cult. Congress doesn’t think he has done everything right. The judiciary doesn’t think he has done everything right.

We get it, Elvis. You hate Trump and his supporters and want them both dead. Can you just come out and say it already?

I’m guessing the bus you rode to school on wasn’t very long, and you might have been wearing a helmet.

(11-07-2025 05:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 03:56 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 03:54 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 01:24 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 10:23 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  So things are more affordable today than they were when he took over? He ran very explicitly on "look at how amazing and cheap things were when I was president, elect me and we'll get back to that." That was stupid, anyone who actually believed he was going to do that was stupid, but a whole lot of voters are stupid and did believe he'd make things cheaper and make their material conditions better. That ain't happened, and ain't going to happen under Trump.

I stand by my post. Donald Trump has DONE virtually everything right. (My hesitation is with the tariff policies, but that has yet to fully play out.)

Your rejoinder is only that he SPOKE incorrectly. I agree. Donald Trump is incapable of keeping his arrogant and reckless mouth shut, especially when it is in his own best interest to do so. He somehow manages to find a way to turn every stunning victory into an unnecessary distraction.

That’s who he is. He is an unfunny clown. But it does not change the fact that this clown has successfully reversed the disgraceful damage done to our nation by the Biden administration on just about every front. Or at the very least has stopped the bleeding - - as in the case of inflation.

That you cannot see this (or at least insist on denying it) does not speak well for you - - indicating a problem with either your intelligence or your love of this country.

Things that Trump didn’t do right this year :


Targeted legal immigrants, universities, and law firms with retaliatory executive orders for saying things he doesn’t like.

Attacked independent regulatory agencies independence.

Attempted to strip the power of the purse from Congress.

Attempted to take the power to regulate voting away from the states via executive orders.

Attempted to unconstitutionally end birthright citizenship via executive order.

Threatened the sovereignty of states and violated the constitution by deploying national guard troops without governor approval.

Illegally imprisoned immigrants in foreign concentration camps without due process or a trial.

Ignored court orders and attempted to undermine the authority of the judicial branch to deliver checks and balances to the executive branch.

Engaged in retaliatory firings in the DOJ of anyone who helped investigate or prosecute him for his many felonies. Engaged in general lawfare against his “enemies”.

Executed a crypto rug pull profiting $1B+ from his crypto scam.


Pardoned people who attacked police officers and attempted to stop the peaceful transition of power.

The only people who think Trump has done everything right are the cult. Congress doesn’t think he has done everything right. The judiciary doesn’t think he has done everything right.

We get it, Elvis. You hate Trump and his supporters and want them both dead. Can you just come out and say it already?

I’m guessing the bus you rode to school on wasn’t very long, and you might have been wearing a helmet.

I rode on a normal-sized bus in middle school, Elvis. The only time I wore a helmet was when I was riding my bike.

What else you got for me?

(11-07-2025 04:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 04:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-07-2025 03:43 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If his policies are going to be such destructive failures then you guys should be thrilled. You should hope he implements them in a high profile city that none of you live in, that they fail spectacularly, and then you get to say I told you so forever and it's a massive short and long term setback to anything like this happening elsewhere. Instead, I think the real fear is he might actually do some of these things and they turn out to be popular.

You don't really understand socialism or communism, do you?

Trust me, we don't fear him implementing things that turn out to be popular, but please enlighten us with a list of what these good deeds could possibly be.

Thanks in advance.

P.S. I don't mean popular in NYC. You could put Repubs in a coliseum with hungry lions, and that would make many on your side happy.

I mean popular in the majority of the country.

I understand them just fine, fine enough to know his mild arse social democrat policy proposals aren't anywhere near what actual socialism or communism are. Do you have an understanding that there's a difference between a social democrat, a socialist and a communist?

Marxism is Marxism you can slap whatever name on it that you want but its all rooted in Marxism and the end goal is the same.

There is no debate here.

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Every day, it becomes more apparent why certain people support the Dem party.

It’s getting really tiresome listening to so many grown men and women saying such stupid chit.