(10-15-2025 07:59 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 02:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Are we eventually going to see the, heck any, evidence of the people they're killing?

What sort of evidence would be persuasive to you?

Evidence of drugs.
Evidence of any direct threat to the US. These seem to usually be smaller boats with little chance to easily reach the US.
Evidence of "bad guys" on board.
Justification for killing without any due process. Or who we're actually at "war" with.

Things like that. And again, I don't have to necessarily see it personally, but Congress needs to be getting it.

(10-15-2025 09:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 07:59 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 02:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Are we eventually going to see the, heck any, evidence of the people they're killing?

What sort of evidence would be persuasive to you?

Evidence of drugs.
Evidence of any direct threat to the US. These seem to usually be smaller boats with little chance to easily reach the US.
Evidence of "bad guys" on board.
Justification for killing without any due process. Or who we're actually at "war" with.

Things like that. And again, I don't have to necessarily see it personally, but Congress needs to be getting it.

they're on permanent vacation ... ewer King is driving the bus, son ... he never picked ewes up...

(10-15-2025 09:21 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 07:54 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Had a relative get upset over the last one. Honestly, of all the things wrong in the world seeing Tony Montana get blown up trying bring poison into the country is the least of them.

So, now Italians are bringing in drugs?

Was he related to Joe Montana?

You never saw Scarface (1981). “ Hey, I'm no f-word criminal, man. I'm no puta or thief. I'm Tony Montana, a political prisoner from Cuba. And I want my f-word human rights.”

(10-15-2025 09:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 07:59 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 02:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Are we eventually going to see the, heck any, evidence of the people they're killing?

What sort of evidence would be persuasive to you?

Evidence of drugs.
Evidence of any direct threat to the US. These seem to usually be smaller boats with little chance to easily reach the US.
Evidence of "bad guys" on board.
Justification for killing without any due process. Or who we're actually at "war" with.

Things like that. And again, I don't have to necessarily see it personally, but Congress needs to be getting it.

Do you even read what anybody else posts, or read links?

The boats are not being driven directly to the US from Venezuela. They run from station to station in the Caribbean, through a number of connected outposts designed to eventually bring the drugs to the US, as well as other destinations.

In addition, Hegseth and others have said more than once that some of the closeup photos show obvious drugs, thus making those on board "bad guys."

And if you're on a boat that is obviously filled with drugs, and our military is 100% positive (again a thing Hegseth mentioned), then that's your due process. (BTW, nobody has "due process" rights at sea in international waters).

Finally, Hegseth has passed this info along to both the Senate and House majority leaders, as well as Trump.

I think that just answered all of your questions. Like I said earlier, what it boils down to is you have to take Hegseth, Johnson, Thune and Trump at their word.

I realize that is difficult for you, but they are not going to give details to the public, and I'm sure they would share details with Schumer and Jeffries, if they were interested. Whether that happened yet, IDK. My guess is Schumer and Jeffries aren't interested.

(10-15-2025 06:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Why is there "required Congressional oversight" when we have had only 5 declared wars in history, yet over 100 other occasions, sometimes prolonged, where actions such as this were taken by the feds for the safety of all citizens?

You said "no obligation" to show evidence of criminal activity, then in the next sentence said "required Congressional oversight." That sounds like you want someone other than the Executive branch to authorize or oversee it. Sorry, drug boats don't wait on Congressional approval to run drugs into the country.

Then you followed that up with "...there's also that pesky thing about there being a legal justification to execute them..."

Are you implying that our military is just hanging out in the Caribbean near Venezuela, willy nilly dropping heavy artillery onto unsuspecting boats, and therefore requires authorization from elsewhere before acting, and/or having to prove they were right afterwards?

Like I said, you're starting to sound like that other guy who hangs out here occasionally...

We bomb and drone people all over the world for 80 damn years and now the filth give a shite

Do
Not
Care

Frick em

(10-15-2025 10:08 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 06:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Why is there "required Congressional oversight" when we have had only 5 declared wars in history, yet over 100 other occasions, sometimes prolonged, where actions such as this were taken by the feds for the safety of all citizens?

You said "no obligation" to show evidence of criminal activity, then in the next sentence said "required Congressional oversight." That sounds like you want someone other than the Executive branch to authorize or oversee it. Sorry, drug boats don't wait on Congressional approval to run drugs into the country.

Then you followed that up with "...there's also that pesky thing about there being a legal justification to execute them..."

Are you implying that our military is just hanging out in the Caribbean near Venezuela, willy nilly dropping heavy artillery onto unsuspecting boats, and therefore requires authorization from elsewhere before acting, and/or having to prove they were right afterwards?

Like I said, you're starting to sound like that other guy who hangs out here occasionally...

We bomb and drone people all over the world for 80 damn years and now the filth give a shite

Do
Not
Care

Frick em

I wonder when Chicago Jesus bombed the wedding killing innocent women and children if he had Congressional oversight.

No Tom and these other libs would rather us "arrest" them. Bring them here, give them due process, and then release them on the street.

(10-15-2025 11:35 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 10:08 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 06:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Why is there "required Congressional oversight" when we have had only 5 declared wars in history, yet over 100 other occasions, sometimes prolonged, where actions such as this were taken by the feds for the safety of all citizens?

You said "no obligation" to show evidence of criminal activity, then in the next sentence said "required Congressional oversight." That sounds like you want someone other than the Executive branch to authorize or oversee it. Sorry, drug boats don't wait on Congressional approval to run drugs into the country.

Then you followed that up with "...there's also that pesky thing about there being a legal justification to execute them..."

Are you implying that our military is just hanging out in the Caribbean near Venezuela, willy nilly dropping heavy artillery onto unsuspecting boats, and therefore requires authorization from elsewhere before acting, and/or having to prove they were right afterwards?

Like I said, you're starting to sound like that other guy who hangs out here occasionally...

We bomb and drone people all over the world for 80 damn years and now the filth give a shite

Do
Not
Care

Frick em

I wonder when Chicago Jesus bombed the wedding killing innocent women and children if he had Congressional oversight.

No Tom and these other libs would rather us "arrest" them. Bring them here, give them due process, and then release them on the street.

I'd rather you pull your head out of your ass and actually discuss a topic instead of opting for an ignorant and lazy logical fallacy.

(10-15-2025 11:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 11:35 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 10:08 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 06:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Why is there "required Congressional oversight" when we have had only 5 declared wars in history, yet over 100 other occasions, sometimes prolonged, where actions such as this were taken by the feds for the safety of all citizens?

You said "no obligation" to show evidence of criminal activity, then in the next sentence said "required Congressional oversight." That sounds like you want someone other than the Executive branch to authorize or oversee it. Sorry, drug boats don't wait on Congressional approval to run drugs into the country.

Then you followed that up with "...there's also that pesky thing about there being a legal justification to execute them..."

Are you implying that our military is just hanging out in the Caribbean near Venezuela, willy nilly dropping heavy artillery onto unsuspecting boats, and therefore requires authorization from elsewhere before acting, and/or having to prove they were right afterwards?

Like I said, you're starting to sound like that other guy who hangs out here occasionally...

We bomb and drone people all over the world for 80 damn years and now the filth give a shite

Do
Not
Care

Frick em

I wonder when Chicago Jesus bombed the wedding killing innocent women and children if he had Congressional oversight.

No Tom and these other libs would rather us "arrest" them. Bring them here, give them due process, and then release them on the street.

I'd rather you pull your head out of your ass and actually discuss a topic instead of opting for an ignorant and lazy logical fallacy.

I am discussing it. You called for oversight and I'm just reminding you of others that haven't. Now pull your head out of your local Dem's lap.

Notice he didn't refute the rest of what I said, he only took offense at the Democrat I took a shot at.

You seem surprised?

(10-15-2025 11:43 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  You seem surprised?

Nope. SOS with Tom. Lather rinse repeat.

Don't compare two subjects, it's whataboutism.
Don't talk bad about Chicago Jesus or I'll say it's illogical.
Don't dare talk about what I support or I'll crawfish quicker than my cat runs away when it hears my keys in the door.

Did I miss the video.

Would make a good show

Gdunn and his fellow cons would rather parade around in a white pointy hat than address racial issues.

See, two can do this. Solves...well...nothing.

(10-15-2025 11:45 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 11:43 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  You seem surprised?

Nope. SOS with Tom. Lather rinse repeat.

Don't compare two subjects, it's whataboutism.
Don't talk bad about Chicago Jesus or I'll say it's illogical.
Don't dare talk about what I support or I'll crawfish quicker than my cat runs away when it hears my keys in the door.

Prolly should pin this post

(10-15-2025 11:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 11:35 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 10:08 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 06:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Why is there "required Congressional oversight" when we have had only 5 declared wars in history, yet over 100 other occasions, sometimes prolonged, where actions such as this were taken by the feds for the safety of all citizens?

You said "no obligation" to show evidence of criminal activity, then in the next sentence said "required Congressional oversight." That sounds like you want someone other than the Executive branch to authorize or oversee it. Sorry, drug boats don't wait on Congressional approval to run drugs into the country.

Then you followed that up with "...there's also that pesky thing about there being a legal justification to execute them..."

Are you implying that our military is just hanging out in the Caribbean near Venezuela, willy nilly dropping heavy artillery onto unsuspecting boats, and therefore requires authorization from elsewhere before acting, and/or having to prove they were right afterwards?

Like I said, you're starting to sound like that other guy who hangs out here occasionally...

We bomb and drone people all over the world for 80 damn years and now the filth give a shite

Do
Not
Care

Frick em

I wonder when Chicago Jesus bombed the wedding killing innocent women and children if he had Congressional oversight.

No Tom and these other libs would rather us "arrest" them. Bring them here, give them due process, and then release them on the street.

I'd rather you pull your head out of your ass and actually discuss a topic instead of opting for an ignorant and lazy logical fallacy.

Oh good, then please answer my reply in Post #64 above to your previous comments. Thanks.

(10-15-2025 12:14 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 11:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 11:35 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 10:08 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 06:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Why is there "required Congressional oversight" when we have had only 5 declared wars in history, yet over 100 other occasions, sometimes prolonged, where actions such as this were taken by the feds for the safety of all citizens?

You said "no obligation" to show evidence of criminal activity, then in the next sentence said "required Congressional oversight." That sounds like you want someone other than the Executive branch to authorize or oversee it. Sorry, drug boats don't wait on Congressional approval to run drugs into the country.

Then you followed that up with "...there's also that pesky thing about there being a legal justification to execute them..."

Are you implying that our military is just hanging out in the Caribbean near Venezuela, willy nilly dropping heavy artillery onto unsuspecting boats, and therefore requires authorization from elsewhere before acting, and/or having to prove they were right afterwards?

Like I said, you're starting to sound like that other guy who hangs out here occasionally...

We bomb and drone people all over the world for 80 damn years and now the filth give a shite

Do
Not
Care

Frick em

I wonder when Chicago Jesus bombed the wedding killing innocent women and children if he had Congressional oversight.

No Tom and these other libs would rather us "arrest" them. Bring them here, give them due process, and then release them on the street.

I'd rather you pull your head out of your ass and actually discuss a topic instead of opting for an ignorant and lazy logical fallacy.

Oh good, then please answer my reply in Post #64 above to your previous comments. Thanks.

Oh snap

(10-15-2025 10:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 09:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 07:59 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 02:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Are we eventually going to see the, heck any, evidence of the people they're killing?

What sort of evidence would be persuasive to you?

Evidence of drugs.
Evidence of any direct threat to the US. These seem to usually be smaller boats with little chance to easily reach the US.
Evidence of "bad guys" on board.
Justification for killing without any due process. Or who we're actually at "war" with.

Things like that. And again, I don't have to necessarily see it personally, but Congress needs to be getting it.

Do you even read what anybody else posts, or read links?

The boats are not being driven directly to the US from Venezuela. They run from station to station in the Caribbean, through a number of connected outposts designed to eventually bring the drugs to the US, as well as other destinations.

In addition, Hegseth and others have said more than once that some of the closeup photos show obvious drugs, thus making those on board "bad guys."

And if you're on a boat that is obviously filled with drugs, and our military is 100% positive (again a thing Hegseth mentioned), then that's your due process. (BTW, nobody has "due process" rights at sea in international waters).

Finally, Hegseth has passed this info along to both the Senate and House majority leaders, as well as Trump.

I think that just answered all of your questions. Like I said earlier, what it boils down to is you have to take Hegseth, Johnson, Thune and Trump at their word.

I realize that is difficult for you, but they are not going to give details to the public, and I'm sure they would share details with Schumer and Jeffries, if they were interested. Whether that happened yet, IDK. My guess is Schumer and Jeffries aren't interested.

The REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE will never allow this to happen.

(10-15-2025 06:44 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 07:12 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 02:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 02:44 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Like when we saw Osama Bin Laden killed?

You think we didn't killed OBL, or that he wasn't a criminal?

I was in Special Ops...trust me they know which boats are criminal

You gotta figure a teamI c is there watching and tagging the boats.

I can neither confirm nor deny

What a change...during the late 90s we just let the 3am Cigar Boats transit

Although we let them know we could F them up

(10-15-2025 12:14 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 11:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 11:35 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 10:08 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 06:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Why is there "required Congressional oversight" when we have had only 5 declared wars in history, yet over 100 other occasions, sometimes prolonged, where actions such as this were taken by the feds for the safety of all citizens?

You said "no obligation" to show evidence of criminal activity, then in the next sentence said "required Congressional oversight." That sounds like you want someone other than the Executive branch to authorize or oversee it. Sorry, drug boats don't wait on Congressional approval to run drugs into the country.

Then you followed that up with "...there's also that pesky thing about there being a legal justification to execute them..."

Are you implying that our military is just hanging out in the Caribbean near Venezuela, willy nilly dropping heavy artillery onto unsuspecting boats, and therefore requires authorization from elsewhere before acting, and/or having to prove they were right afterwards?

Like I said, you're starting to sound like that other guy who hangs out here occasionally...

We bomb and drone people all over the world for 80 damn years and now the filth give a shite

Do
Not
Care

Frick em

I wonder when Chicago Jesus bombed the wedding killing innocent women and children if he had Congressional oversight.

No Tom and these other libs would rather us "arrest" them. Bring them here, give them due process, and then release them on the street.

I'd rather you pull your head out of your ass and actually discuss a topic instead of opting for an ignorant and lazy logical fallacy.

Oh good, then please answer my reply in Post #64 above to your previous comments. Thanks.

The answer to your question is yes.

(10-15-2025 12:46 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 12:14 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 11:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 11:35 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 10:08 AM)shere khan Wrote:  We bomb and drone people all over the world for 80 damn years and now the filth give a shite

Do
Not
Care

Frick em

I wonder when Chicago Jesus bombed the wedding killing innocent women and children if he had Congressional oversight.

No Tom and these other libs would rather us "arrest" them. Bring them here, give them due process, and then release them on the street.

I'd rather you pull your head out of your ass and actually discuss a topic instead of opting for an ignorant and lazy logical fallacy.

Oh good, then please answer my reply in Post #64 above to your previous comments. Thanks.

Oh snap

Oh, clueless.

(10-15-2025 01:34 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 10:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 09:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 07:59 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 02:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Are we eventually going to see the, heck any, evidence of the people they're killing?

What sort of evidence would be persuasive to you?

Evidence of drugs.
Evidence of any direct threat to the US. These seem to usually be smaller boats with little chance to easily reach the US.
Evidence of "bad guys" on board.
Justification for killing without any due process. Or who we're actually at "war" with.

Things like that. And again, I don't have to necessarily see it personally, but Congress needs to be getting it.

Do you even read what anybody else posts, or read links?

The boats are not being driven directly to the US from Venezuela. They run from station to station in the Caribbean, through a number of connected outposts designed to eventually bring the drugs to the US, as well as other destinations.

In addition, Hegseth and others have said more than once that some of the closeup photos show obvious drugs, thus making those on board "bad guys."

And if you're on a boat that is obviously filled with drugs, and our military is 100% positive (again a thing Hegseth mentioned), then that's your due process. (BTW, nobody has "due process" rights at sea in international waters).

Finally, Hegseth has passed this info along to both the Senate and House majority leaders, as well as Trump.

I think that just answered all of your questions. Like I said earlier, what it boils down to is you have to take Hegseth, Johnson, Thune and Trump at their word.

I realize that is difficult for you, but they are not going to give details to the public, and I'm sure they would share details with Schumer and Jeffries, if they were interested. Whether that happened yet, IDK. My guess is Schumer and Jeffries aren't interested.

The REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE will never allow this to happen.

So, you took the word of everyone in the Biden administration?