(10-08-2025 07:49 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 02:25 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 01:34 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  Again I ask: could the ramifications effect any potential UNC moves in the future?

I am sure that there are those who would like to believe that it could impact a potential future move, but I have my doubts. A rogue trustee can be replaced but the trustees in general signed off on the hiring of Belichick. Then there are the issues within the administration which are where the factions are. Belichick is an easy target, but the portal alone does not a team make and to expect anyone to turn around the UNC football mess in one year without much of a headstart is unreasonable. Belichick is high profile so making a political football out of him is just an easy excuse for raising controversy. Remember any old coot seemingly being escorted by a lovely young ingenue gets to experience having his competency questioned and if it's working for him his ethics.

Their 'unc football mess' went to a bowl last fall. They must've lost a lot of talent.

They lost the much underrated Mack Brown.
Most wins by major college fb coach
1. Joe Paterno 409
2. Bobby Bowden 389
3. Bear Bryant 323
4. Pop Warner 319
5. Amos Alonzo Stagg 314
6. Nick Saban 297
7. Mack Brown 288
8. Frank Beamer 280
9. Lavell Edwards 257
10.Tom Osborne 255

He just couldn't find a good D coordinator at UNC.

Brian Kelly is in the 310s, but 118 of his wins were in Division II at Grand Valley St.

(10-08-2025 08:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:49 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 02:25 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 01:34 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  Again I ask: could the ramifications effect any potential UNC moves in the future?

I am sure that there are those who would like to believe that it could impact a potential future move, but I have my doubts. A rogue trustee can be replaced but the trustees in general signed off on the hiring of Belichick. Then there are the issues within the administration which are where the factions are. Belichick is an easy target, but the portal alone does not a team make and to expect anyone to turn around the UNC football mess in one year without much of a headstart is unreasonable. Belichick is high profile so making a political football out of him is just an easy excuse for raising controversy. Remember any old coot seemingly being escorted by a lovely young ingenue gets to experience having his competency questioned and if it's working for him his ethics.

Their 'unc football mess' went to a bowl last fall. They must've lost a lot of talent.

They lost the much underrated Mack Brown.
Most wins by major college fb coach
1. Joe Paterno 409
2. Bobby Bowden 389
3. Bear Bryant 323
4. Pop Warner 319
5. Amos Alonzo Stagg 314
6. Nick Saban 297
7. Mack Brown 288
8. Frank Beamer 280
9. Lavell Edwards 257
10.Tom Osborne 255

He just couldn't find a good D coordinator at UNC.

Brian Kelly is in the 310s, but 118 of his wins were in Division II at Grand Valley St.

Mack Brown was seriously underrated. He became the 2nd UNC coach to go to 6 consecutive bowl games. The 1st was Mack Brown.

The suits got brash, decision was rash
They fired ol’ Coach Mack Brown
The next hire splashed, quite the newsflash
Largest bandwagon ‘round

The start was slow, caused quite a row
Tabloids sold out in town
As anger grows, I’ll have you know
Bandwagon can’t be found

(10-08-2025 08:13 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 08:08 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 08:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  On a more serious note .... I think it would be a hysterical own goal for UNC to fire him. I'm feeling ... oddly poetic.

You're the bashful boys in baby blue,
who haven't been good since Charlie Choo Choo.

Dealing with blownout Bill can be a real b*tch.
But ask yourself, are you going to do better than Nebraska after Solich?

You may feel as though slandered,
but truth be told you were always sub-standard.

So go on, rip on Bill, phone the press,
but in Chapel Hill football just means less.
(As though jumpman on a football jersey wasn't enough to confess.)

If a slaughter you demand, grab the right lamb:
Octogenarians are only preferred by Bubba Cunningham.
(But for the rest of the ACC, we enjoy fresh ram.)

The next guy will talk again all about the Carolina Way.
Not the real one: Classes? Ney. Just pay, pay, pay.

Don't quit your day job.

There was a pro coach of great note,
who took a new gig with a goat
He showed up with a tart
Got off to a bad start
There was a pro coach of great note!

I had no idea you are a poet. That’s commendable.

(10-08-2025 08:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:49 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 02:25 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 01:34 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  Again I ask: could the ramifications effect any potential UNC moves in the future?

I am sure that there are those who would like to believe that it could impact a potential future move, but I have my doubts. A rogue trustee can be replaced but the trustees in general signed off on the hiring of Belichick. Then there are the issues within the administration which are where the factions are. Belichick is an easy target, but the portal alone does not a team make and to expect anyone to turn around the UNC football mess in one year without much of a headstart is unreasonable. Belichick is high profile so making a political football out of him is just an easy excuse for raising controversy. Remember any old coot seemingly being escorted by a lovely young ingenue gets to experience having his competency questioned and if it's working for him his ethics.

Their 'unc football mess' went to a bowl last fall. They must've lost a lot of talent.

They lost the much underrated Mack Brown.
Most wins by major college fb coach
1. Joe Paterno 409
2. Bobby Bowden 389
3. Bear Bryant 323
4. Pop Warner 319
5. Amos Alonzo Stagg 314
6. Nick Saban 297
7. Mack Brown 288
8. Frank Beamer 280
9. Lavell Edwards 257
10.Tom Osborne 255

He just couldn't find a good D coordinator at UNC.

Brian Kelly is in the 310s, but 118 of his wins were in Division II at Grand Valley St.

... but let's face it: Mack was well past his prime his last stint at UNC. Kind of like BB appears to be now. He wasn't the same guy who led UNC to having a lot of ranked teams in the mid-1990s, nor the guy who led Texas to the national title and other BCS bowl victories in the 2000s. Not even close.

So IMO, he was a poor hire. And they've replaced one old coach with another old coach.

Some frightening rhyme has appeared
Met with copious jeers, as feared
We’re clearly averse
To this amateur verse
Let’s get back to arguing here

(10-08-2025 07:28 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  There are seven games left, and it isn’t exactly murderers’ row. I want to see what they can do.

It would be foolish and even more embarrassing IMO to push him out now. But the chancellor or somebody should come out and give a blatant vote of confidence. How can they expect a team to function while the administration is not supporting them?

Personally, I think BB will never be successful at UNC. I am firmly in the camp that thinks he never did anything without Brady and never will.

But I have to admit the rush to judgement on social media is kind of breathtaking. He's playing this season without his first crop of recruits and the big boost in NIL behind it, and we're just 5 games into the season.

It arguably is the fastest stampede of this kind ever.

(10-08-2025 09:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 08:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:49 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 02:25 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 01:34 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  Again I ask: could the ramifications effect any potential UNC moves in the future?

I am sure that there are those who would like to believe that it could impact a potential future move, but I have my doubts. A rogue trustee can be replaced but the trustees in general signed off on the hiring of Belichick. Then there are the issues within the administration which are where the factions are. Belichick is an easy target, but the portal alone does not a team make and to expect anyone to turn around the UNC football mess in one year without much of a headstart is unreasonable. Belichick is high profile so making a political football out of him is just an easy excuse for raising controversy. Remember any old coot seemingly being escorted by a lovely young ingenue gets to experience having his competency questioned and if it's working for him his ethics.

Their 'unc football mess' went to a bowl last fall. They must've lost a lot of talent.

They lost the much underrated Mack Brown.
Most wins by major college fb coach
1. Joe Paterno 409
2. Bobby Bowden 389
3. Bear Bryant 323
4. Pop Warner 319
5. Amos Alonzo Stagg 314
6. Nick Saban 297
7. Mack Brown 288
8. Frank Beamer 280
9. Lavell Edwards 257
10.Tom Osborne 255

He just couldn't find a good D coordinator at UNC.

Brian Kelly is in the 310s, but 118 of his wins were in Division II at Grand Valley St.

... but let's face it: Mack was well past his prime his last stint at UNC. Kind of like BB appears to be now. He wasn't the same guy who led UNC to having a lot of ranked teams in the mid-1990s, nor the guy who led Texas to the national title and other BCS bowl victories in the 2000s. Not even close.

So IMO, he was a poor hire. And they've replaced one old coach with another old coach.

May not have been as good as he was, but his last 12 years at UNC, both first and last stint, resulted in 12 straight bowls. In between, it was 11 bowls in 21 years, and there were a lot more bowls out there than in his first stint. Had 3 ten win seasons his first stint (didn't get above 9 the second). UNC had 4 in the 100 years prior and only one since. And in the 2nd stint he took UNC to an ACC title game, only the second time they made it.

And.....UNC released an official statement supporting him.

Looking at Wiki, UNC lost 49 players to transfers and brought in 34 transfers.

(10-08-2025 03:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 03:39 PM)ken d Wrote:  https://www.wral.com/sports/belichick-co...-oct-2025/

Interesting read on the subject.

Professional coaches don't deal with individual personalities, especially not their parents, and aloofness is part of control at many franchises. But like the pros Belichick will answer to those over him.

I really don't think you can read too much into yet. Bear Bryant ran off a good portion of the team at Texas A&M when he took over using the Juction practices to thin the herd. Later at Alabama he would do something similar but less severe to get rid of the mindset that had existed under Whitworth.

Belichick likely considers this approach to be a winnowing of the kinds of players and attitudes he doesn't want on the team. It has the same impact as Bear's Junction practices only without the physical harshness. Saban did the same with the batch he inherited at Bama.

If the same things are going on next year that's a different matter. Professors and coaches don't need or want helicopter parents hoovering over their progeny like an agent. And entitlement is epidemic today and with it discipline.

UNC got in for many more pounds than pennies. Making the call after next year seems to be in order at that level of investment.


Edit: Finebaum just reported that Belichick is willing to discuss his buyout with UNC but wants a soft landing with another job or a media position. Finebaum added that Belichick took a week's vacation during UNC's bye week and was unavailable to discuss matters with the other coaches. He described the comments about his last couple of sessions with coaches and the team as weird.

If Belichick is in some state of mental deterioration that puts this whole topic in another light. And IMO, increases the likelihood he could be replaced this early. These matters are greater than disgruntled players and parents. We'll see.

Professional coaches do have to deal with individual personalities and their parents. In a recent job of mine (toxic work environment), one of the bosses was a former college NBA player who spent time playing professional in Europe. His son had recently transferred from school x to school y and he talked about how he reached out to the coach to try to get his son more playing time, because pro scouts just look at the stat lines and don't see the minutes per game or something like that. I pushed back a little that college age kids can fend for themselves, and quickly had to retreat in order to cover myself in my place of work. It's just a different culture out there. I'm not a "get off my lawn" old guy, but I'm starting to relate to that crowd more and more.

https://www.wral.com/video/locker-room-f.../22191354/

(10-08-2025 11:09 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  https://www.wral.com/video/locker-room-f.../22191354/

Please let this end in $15m a year UNC HC Brian Kelly.

(10-08-2025 09:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 09:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 08:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:49 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 02:25 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I am sure that there are those who would like to believe that it could impact a potential future move, but I have my doubts. A rogue trustee can be replaced but the trustees in general signed off on the hiring of Belichick. Then there are the issues within the administration which are where the factions are. Belichick is an easy target, but the portal alone does not a team make and to expect anyone to turn around the UNC football mess in one year without much of a headstart is unreasonable. Belichick is high profile so making a political football out of him is just an easy excuse for raising controversy. Remember any old coot seemingly being escorted by a lovely young ingenue gets to experience having his competency questioned and if it's working for him his ethics.

Their 'unc football mess' went to a bowl last fall. They must've lost a lot of talent.

They lost the much underrated Mack Brown.
Most wins by major college fb coach
1. Joe Paterno 409
2. Bobby Bowden 389
3. Bear Bryant 323
4. Pop Warner 319
5. Amos Alonzo Stagg 314
6. Nick Saban 297
7. Mack Brown 288
8. Frank Beamer 280
9. Lavell Edwards 257
10.Tom Osborne 255

He just couldn't find a good D coordinator at UNC.

Brian Kelly is in the 310s, but 118 of his wins were in Division II at Grand Valley St.

... but let's face it: Mack was well past his prime his last stint at UNC. Kind of like BB appears to be now. He wasn't the same guy who led UNC to having a lot of ranked teams in the mid-1990s, nor the guy who led Texas to the national title and other BCS bowl victories in the 2000s. Not even close.

So IMO, he was a poor hire. And they've replaced one old coach with another old coach.

May not have been as good as he was, but his last 12 years at UNC, both first and last stint, resulted in 12 straight bowls. In between, it was 11 bowls in 21 years, and there were a lot more bowls out there than in his first stint. Had 3 ten win seasons his first stint (didn't get above 9 the second). UNC had 4 in the 100 years prior and only one since. And in the 2nd stint he took UNC to an ACC title game, only the second time they made it.

I was surprised that they ended things with Brown the way they did. I always hated facing him, and I was glad when he finally left Texas.

Back to the original topic, I wasn't worried about Belichick until he got the dreaded public support from the Brass.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/4653...-2-3-start

(10-08-2025 09:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 09:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 08:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:49 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 02:25 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I am sure that there are those who would like to believe that it could impact a potential future move, but I have my doubts. A rogue trustee can be replaced but the trustees in general signed off on the hiring of Belichick. Then there are the issues within the administration which are where the factions are. Belichick is an easy target, but the portal alone does not a team make and to expect anyone to turn around the UNC football mess in one year without much of a headstart is unreasonable. Belichick is high profile so making a political football out of him is just an easy excuse for raising controversy. Remember any old coot seemingly being escorted by a lovely young ingenue gets to experience having his competency questioned and if it's working for him his ethics.

Their 'unc football mess' went to a bowl last fall. They must've lost a lot of talent.

They lost the much underrated Mack Brown.
Most wins by major college fb coach
1. Joe Paterno 409
2. Bobby Bowden 389
3. Bear Bryant 323
4. Pop Warner 319
5. Amos Alonzo Stagg 314
6. Nick Saban 297
7. Mack Brown 288
8. Frank Beamer 280
9. Lavell Edwards 257
10.Tom Osborne 255

He just couldn't find a good D coordinator at UNC.

Brian Kelly is in the 310s, but 118 of his wins were in Division II at Grand Valley St.

... but let's face it: Mack was well past his prime his last stint at UNC. Kind of like BB appears to be now. He wasn't the same guy who led UNC to having a lot of ranked teams in the mid-1990s, nor the guy who led Texas to the national title and other BCS bowl victories in the 2000s. Not even close.

So IMO, he was a poor hire. And they've replaced one old coach with another old coach.

May not have been as good as he was, but his last 12 years at UNC, both first and last stint, resulted in 12 straight bowls. In between, it was 11 bowls in 21 years, and there were a lot more bowls out there than in his first stint. Had 3 ten win seasons his first stint (didn't get above 9 the second). UNC had 4 in the 100 years prior and only one since. And in the 2nd stint he took UNC to an ACC title game, only the second time they made it.

Yeah, but you're lumping in his last six years of the 1990s, when UNC was ranked in the final AP poll four of those six years and when Mack was unquestionably one of the best coaches in CFB, with the 2019 - 2024 seasons, when he lost at least 5 games in five of those six seasons (and four in the other) and was ranked just once in the final AP poll, and that in the weird covid year. Those are IMO extremely different sets of results and with a 22-year gap between the end of the first and the beginning of the second. Twenty-two years.

If they were going to bring him back, they should have done so in 2014, and had him from say 2014 - 2020, when he would have been like 63-69 years old. They just hired him too late for the second go-round, IMO.

BB is looking like a bad hire right now, but IMO the jury has to be very much still out, he's only been there five games and hasn't had his first recruiting class on the field. He may turn out to be a bad hire, even disastrous, but that doesn't mean it wasn't time for Mack to go. I think it was. Mack was beloved, he created some awesome locker-room memes for the highlight reels and social media, but his record these last six years was mediocre and not getting any better.

(10-08-2025 11:25 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 09:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 09:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 08:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:49 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  Their 'unc football mess' went to a bowl last fall. They must've lost a lot of talent.

They lost the much underrated Mack Brown.
Most wins by major college fb coach
1. Joe Paterno 409
2. Bobby Bowden 389
3. Bear Bryant 323
4. Pop Warner 319
5. Amos Alonzo Stagg 314
6. Nick Saban 297
7. Mack Brown 288
8. Frank Beamer 280
9. Lavell Edwards 257
10.Tom Osborne 255

He just couldn't find a good D coordinator at UNC.

Brian Kelly is in the 310s, but 118 of his wins were in Division II at Grand Valley St.

... but let's face it: Mack was well past his prime his last stint at UNC. Kind of like BB appears to be now. He wasn't the same guy who led UNC to having a lot of ranked teams in the mid-1990s, nor the guy who led Texas to the national title and other BCS bowl victories in the 2000s. Not even close.

So IMO, he was a poor hire. And they've replaced one old coach with another old coach.

May not have been as good as he was, but his last 12 years at UNC, both first and last stint, resulted in 12 straight bowls. In between, it was 11 bowls in 21 years, and there were a lot more bowls out there than in his first stint. Had 3 ten win seasons his first stint (didn't get above 9 the second). UNC had 4 in the 100 years prior and only one since. And in the 2nd stint he took UNC to an ACC title game, only the second time they made it.

I was surprised that they ended things with Brown the way they did. I always hated facing him, and I was glad when he finally left Texas.

Back to the original topic, I wasn't worried about Belichick until he got the dreaded public support from the Brass.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/4653...-2-3-start

Yeah, the dread "vote of confidence", LOL.

Still, I will be surprised if BB isn't the coach next season. There is a massive rush to judgment going on right now, a social media stampede, and UNC would be IMO foolish to cave in to it so soon.

(10-08-2025 09:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:28 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  There are seven games left, and it isn’t exactly murderers’ row. I want to see what they can do.

It would be foolish and even more embarrassing IMO to push him out now. But the chancellor or somebody should come out and give a blatant vote of confidence. How can they expect a team to function while the administration is not supporting them?

Personally, I think BB will never be successful at UNC. I am firmly in the camp that thinks he never did anything without Brady and never will.

But I have to admit the rush to judgement on social media is kind of breathtaking. He's playing this season without his first crop of recruits and the big boost in NIL behind it, and we're just 5 games into the season.

It arguably is the fastest stampede of this kind ever.

Well, he built elite defenses in NY and Cleveland and helped the Giants win two Super Bowls. The Patriots had some of the best defenses in the league during his run. They went 11-5 with perennial backup Matt Cassel and made the playoffs I believe once post-Brady.

It’s a lot easier for an elite QB to pick their destination (Tampa) than a coach to cobble the amount of players required to be successful.

So I disagree. Brady also had some great OC’s and he’d be the first to admit Belichick is a great coach.

(10-08-2025 11:25 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 09:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 09:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 08:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:49 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  Their 'unc football mess' went to a bowl last fall. They must've lost a lot of talent.

They lost the much underrated Mack Brown.
Most wins by major college fb coach
1. Joe Paterno 409
2. Bobby Bowden 389
3. Bear Bryant 323
4. Pop Warner 319
5. Amos Alonzo Stagg 314
6. Nick Saban 297
7. Mack Brown 288
8. Frank Beamer 280
9. Lavell Edwards 257
10.Tom Osborne 255

He just couldn't find a good D coordinator at UNC.

Brian Kelly is in the 310s, but 118 of his wins were in Division II at Grand Valley St.

... but let's face it: Mack was well past his prime his last stint at UNC. Kind of like BB appears to be now. He wasn't the same guy who led UNC to having a lot of ranked teams in the mid-1990s, nor the guy who led Texas to the national title and other BCS bowl victories in the 2000s. Not even close.

So IMO, he was a poor hire. And they've replaced one old coach with another old coach.

May not have been as good as he was, but his last 12 years at UNC, both first and last stint, resulted in 12 straight bowls. In between, it was 11 bowls in 21 years, and there were a lot more bowls out there than in his first stint. Had 3 ten win seasons his first stint (didn't get above 9 the second). UNC had 4 in the 100 years prior and only one since. And in the 2nd stint he took UNC to an ACC title game, only the second time they made it.

I was surprised that they ended things with Brown the way they did. I always hated facing him, and I was glad when he finally left Texas.

Back to the original topic, I wasn't worried about Belichick until he got the dreaded public support from the Brass.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/4653...-2-3-start

They had to do this. The grenades being lobbed make Yormark’s smear campaign look like small potatoes.

(10-08-2025 11:25 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 09:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 09:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 08:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:49 PM)WhidbeyWolf Wrote:  Their 'unc football mess' went to a bowl last fall. They must've lost a lot of talent.

They lost the much underrated Mack Brown.
Most wins by major college fb coach
1. Joe Paterno 409
2. Bobby Bowden 389
3. Bear Bryant 323
4. Pop Warner 319
5. Amos Alonzo Stagg 314
6. Nick Saban 297
7. Mack Brown 288
8. Frank Beamer 280
9. Lavell Edwards 257
10.Tom Osborne 255

He just couldn't find a good D coordinator at UNC.

Brian Kelly is in the 310s, but 118 of his wins were in Division II at Grand Valley St.

... but let's face it: Mack was well past his prime his last stint at UNC. Kind of like BB appears to be now. He wasn't the same guy who led UNC to having a lot of ranked teams in the mid-1990s, nor the guy who led Texas to the national title and other BCS bowl victories in the 2000s. Not even close.

So IMO, he was a poor hire. And they've replaced one old coach with another old coach.

May not have been as good as he was, but his last 12 years at UNC, both first and last stint, resulted in 12 straight bowls. In between, it was 11 bowls in 21 years, and there were a lot more bowls out there than in his first stint. Had 3 ten win seasons his first stint (didn't get above 9 the second). UNC had 4 in the 100 years prior and only one since. And in the 2nd stint he took UNC to an ACC title game, only the second time they made it.

I was surprised that they ended things with Brown the way they did. I always hated facing him, and I was glad when he finally left Texas.

Back to the original topic, I wasn't worried about Belichick until he got the dreaded public support from the Brass.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/4653...-2-3-start

UNC Mack (round deux) wasn't the same as Texas Mack. He is completely vindicated though as even at his worst he wasn't losing to unranked P4 teams by 5 tuddies.

I personally hope that Bill digs in and makes UNC either cough up $20MM or continue to take drubbings on the football field. They'll still get into the SEC or Big 10, but it'll be fun for everyone not in baby blue in NC.

While I didn't think he was a good hire, I also think it is too early to drop him. Give him at least 2 seasons at the helm where he can have full recruiting cycle.

Same hold true for Frost at UCF, I don't know if he can/will work out but now he is on board give him enough time to build a team to his liking.