(10-08-2025 12:10 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  Andrew Jones at UNC's 247 site (Tarheel 247) is doing some great work. The writing is on the wall: Belichick will either be bought out or he will be fired for negligence, probably getting less buyout money in the process.
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This contingency was foreseen and built into the contract. If a decision has been made that the current arrangement isn’t working, expect Mr Belichick to say as much in public when moving on becomes ‘his idea.’

Quote:‪Ollie Connolly‬
‪@ollieconnolly.bsky.social‬
· 1h
Members of Belichick’s coaching staff have already spoken to other schools that are expected to be in CFB Playoff about taking on roles during the postseason. From one coach: “the rats are leaving the ship”.

Some staffers believe a change will come within two weeks


‪Ollie Connolly‬
‪@ollieconnolly.bsky.social‬
· 1h
Reports of serious recruiting violations remain under investigation at UNC. Recruiting and practice violations have already been proven by the school, according to multiple sources

You know the school is serious if they are substantiating NCAA violations.

(10-08-2025 03:39 PM)ken d Wrote:  https://www.wral.com/sports/belichick-co...-oct-2025/

Interesting read on the subject.

"Multiple sources with knowledge of the inner workings of Bill Belichick's program say that UNC football's losses are a product of a divided locker room, a disorganized coaching staff and a failure to communicate."

Well imagine that. Who knows if it's true, but Belichick's communication skills aren't exactly his strong suit. Either way, I can't imagine he lasts more than 2 years.

(10-08-2025 04:53 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 01:32 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 01:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  This is a lot of wild-eyed speculation without citing credible sources. And some dude at a 247 site doesn't cut to the chase on credible. No doubt Belichick or Beli's chick has created tremendous stir. Some would say that there is no such thing as bad publicity because all of it gets you noticed. I'd say getting noticed for football at UNC is not necessarily a bad thing even though they are woeful. There is however a backdrop which is serious. There has been struggle among factions who want to chart UNC's future. Belichick has become, unwittingly, a political "football" that is being kicked around for political positioning. There will be a lot of drama and pooh flinging before this one is over.

This is a classic example of "It's not about what it is about."

I don't think that this is wild-eyed speculation. I can't speak for Andrew Jones but can say with 100% certainty that Stephen Igoe at ECU's 247 site (Hoist The Colours) is reputable and if he reports something you can guarantee that it's accurate.

I've met former football staffers (admins) in the past year who are still working at the university. They were disgusted before the summer (the women in particular hated Jordan of course) and they are undoubtedly more disgusted now.

Let's hear the case for "negligence". I'm not saying that there isn't one, but an ECU guy, even one who is above reproach, probably isn't the best source for claims that UNC is trying to build a case to fire their coach.

FWIW, every coach with a significant buyout is constantly under scrutiny. Every coach with a significant buyout and a losing record is under a whole lot more. Boosters, enemies in-house, rivals, you name, they all want dirt on State U's coach. But, as many others have stated in this thread, it's one to say that "someone is pursuing a case of negligence to fire the coach after 5 whole games" and quite another to say "the actual decision makers at State U have proof that the coach has been negligent b/c of these specific things that he's done, we're firing him over these specific negligent things, and we're not paying his buyout". Even using the term "negligent" displays a remarkable lack of inside knowledge of the situation, or at least a lack of knowledge by the leakers/people trying to prove negligence. It's far easier to prove violations of character provisions than negligence. Think Bobby Petrino at Arkansas (the first time) or Mel Tucker at Michigan St. Coaches do boneheaded things like that all the time, but they only come up when/if the school wants to fire said coach. In fact, I don't recall the last time I heard a school successfully manage to weasel out of a coach's buyout due to "negligence".

Andrew Jones -the one doing the reporting that triggered the creation of this thread- is a UNC guy.

I referenced Stephen Igoe as an example of a 247 site owner who does great work and is someone I trust.

As to the "negligence" of certain coaches, I agree although it should be noted that Mel Tucker is currently suing MSU for the money owed on his buyout. Frankly, he might have a case; as such, I expect MSU to settle.

(10-08-2025 05:24 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  

Quote:‪Ollie Connolly‬
‪@ollieconnolly.bsky.social‬
· 1h
Members of Belichick’s coaching staff have already spoken to other schools that are expected to be in CFB Playoff about taking on roles during the postseason. From one coach: “the rats are leaving the ship”.

Some staffers believe a change will come within two weeks


‪Ollie Connolly‬
‪@ollieconnolly.bsky.social‬
· 1h
Reports of serious recruiting violations remain under investigation at UNC. Recruiting and practice violations have already been proven by the school, according to multiple sources

You know the school is serious if they are substantiating NCAA violations.

How does one even commit a recruiting violation this day in age?

(10-08-2025 04:36 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  The results have been farcical so far, and I am enjoying it, lol. Don't want it to end.

Entertaining as it would be to see some UNC fans get to live their ACC dream for the next 100 years, this misadventure probably won’t affect realignment.

(10-08-2025 05:43 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 05:24 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  You know the school is serious if they are substantiating NCAA violations.

How does one even commit a recruiting violation this day in age?

Forget to pay players.

(10-08-2025 05:41 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 04:53 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 01:32 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 01:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  This is a lot of wild-eyed speculation without citing credible sources. And some dude at a 247 site doesn't cut to the chase on credible. No doubt Belichick or Beli's chick has created tremendous stir. Some would say that there is no such thing as bad publicity because all of it gets you noticed. I'd say getting noticed for football at UNC is not necessarily a bad thing even though they are woeful. There is however a backdrop which is serious. There has been struggle among factions who want to chart UNC's future. Belichick has become, unwittingly, a political "football" that is being kicked around for political positioning. There will be a lot of drama and pooh flinging before this one is over.

This is a classic example of "It's not about what it is about."

I don't think that this is wild-eyed speculation. I can't speak for Andrew Jones but can say with 100% certainty that Stephen Igoe at ECU's 247 site (Hoist The Colours) is reputable and if he reports something you can guarantee that it's accurate.

I've met former football staffers (admins) in the past year who are still working at the university. They were disgusted before the summer (the women in particular hated Jordan of course) and they are undoubtedly more disgusted now.

Let's hear the case for "negligence". I'm not saying that there isn't one, but an ECU guy, even one who is above reproach, probably isn't the best source for claims that UNC is trying to build a case to fire their coach.

FWIW, every coach with a significant buyout is constantly under scrutiny. Every coach with a significant buyout and a losing record is under a whole lot more. Boosters, enemies in-house, rivals, you name, they all want dirt on State U's coach. But, as many others have stated in this thread, it's one to say that "someone is pursuing a case of negligence to fire the coach after 5 whole games" and quite another to say "the actual decision makers at State U have proof that the coach has been negligent b/c of these specific things that he's done, we're firing him over these specific negligent things, and we're not paying his buyout". Even using the term "negligent" displays a remarkable lack of inside knowledge of the situation, or at least a lack of knowledge by the leakers/people trying to prove negligence. It's far easier to prove violations of character provisions than negligence. Think Bobby Petrino at Arkansas (the first time) or Mel Tucker at Michigan St. Coaches do boneheaded things like that all the time, but they only come up when/if the school wants to fire said coach. In fact, I don't recall the last time I heard a school successfully manage to weasel out of a coach's buyout due to "negligence".

Andrew Jones -the one doing the reporting that triggered the creation of this thread- is a UNC guy.

I referenced Stephen Igoe as an example of a 247 site owner who does great work and is someone I trust.

As to the "negligence" of certain coaches, I agree although it should be noted that Mel Tucker is currently suing MSU for the money owed on his buyout. Frankly, he might have a case; as such, I expect MSU to settle.

I said that I expected a settlement when they originally fired him. I only included him bc he was fired “for cause” due to character rather than negligence. I see “negligence” and think “dereliction of duty”.

There are seven games left, and it isn’t exactly murderers’ row. I want to see what they can do.

It would be foolish and even more embarrassing IMO to push him out now. But the chancellor or somebody should come out and give a blatant vote of confidence. How can they expect a team to function while the administration is not supporting them?

There’s a Greenville guy claiming the buzz around the Triangle is that BB will be fired and replaced with Sumrall from Tulane. Sounds like the lunatic ravings of a crazed fan, but I figured I’d toss it out there and see if any of you locals think it sticks.

(10-08-2025 07:33 PM)msu35 Wrote:  There’s a Greenville guy claiming the buzz around the Triangle is that BB will be fired and replaced with Sumrall from Tulane. Sounds like the lunatic ravings of a crazed fan, but I figured I’d toss it out there and see if any of you locals think it sticks.

No way that happens. Sumrell doesn't strike me as that type of guy. I think he destined for the SEC, but this day and age I could eat those words. They should have hired Fritz. He's a heck of a ball coach.

(10-08-2025 02:25 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 01:34 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  Again I ask: could the ramifications effect any potential UNC moves in the future?

I am sure that there are those who would like to believe that it could impact a potential future move, but I have my doubts. A rogue trustee can be replaced but the trustees in general signed off on the hiring of Belichick. Then there are the issues within the administration which are where the factions are. Belichick is an easy target, but the portal alone does not a team make and to expect anyone to turn around the UNC football mess in one year without much of a headstart is unreasonable. Belichick is high profile so making a political football out of him is just an easy excuse for raising controversy. Remember any old coot seemingly being escorted by a lovely young ingenue gets to experience having his competency questioned and if it's working for him his ethics.

Their 'unc football mess' went to a bowl last fall. They must've lost a lot of talent.

Let's ask the important question here .... what does Jordon Hudson-Belicheck think?

(10-08-2025 07:50 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Let's ask the important question here .... what does Jordon Hudson-Belicheck think?

She thinks it's time for a nap.

(10-08-2025 07:39 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:33 PM)msu35 Wrote:  There’s a Greenville guy claiming the buzz around the Triangle is that BB will be fired and replaced with Sumrall from Tulane. Sounds like the lunatic ravings of a crazed fan, but I figured I’d toss it out there and see if any of you locals think it sticks.

No way that happens. Sumrell doesn't strike me as that type of guy. I think he destined for the SEC, but this day and age I could eat those words. They should have hired Fritz. He's a heck of a ball coach.

I like Fritz too. I wasn't giving him enough credit in the past, but he's changed my opinion.

(10-08-2025 07:50 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Let's ask the important question here .... what does Jordon Hudson-Belicheck think?

She had a classy, polite pregame conversation on the sidelines with Commissioner Phillips last game, and incels fans on social media imploded like she assassinated someone.

On a more serious note .... I think it would be a hysterical own goal for UNC to fire him. I'm feeling ... oddly poetic.

You're the bashful boys in baby blue,
who haven't been good since Charlie Choo Choo.

Dealing with blownout Bill can be a real b*tch.
But ask yourself, are you going to do better than Nebraska after Solich?

You may feel as though slandered,
but truth be told you were always sub-standard.

So go on, rip on Bill, phone the press,
but in Chapel Hill football just means less.
(As though jumpman on a football jersey wasn't enough to confess.)

If a slaughter you demand, grab the right lamb:
Octogenarians are only preferred by Bubba Cunningham.
(But for the rest of the ACC, we enjoy fresh ram.)

The next guy will talk again all about the Carolina Way.
Not the real one: Classes? Ney. Just pay, pay, pay.

(10-08-2025 08:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  On a more serious note .... I think it would be a hysterical own goal for UNC to fire him. I'm feeling ... oddly poetic.

You're the bashful boys in baby blue,
who haven't been good since Charlie Choo Choo.

Dealing with blownout Bill can be a real b*tch.
But ask yourself, are you going to do better than Nebraska after Solich?

You may feel as though slandered,
but truth be told you were always sub-standard.

So go on, rip on Bill, phone the press,
but in Chapel Hill football just means less.
(As though jumpman on a football jersey wasn't enough to confess.)

If a slaughter you demand, grab the right lamb:
Octogenarians are only preferred by Bubba Cunningham.
(But for the rest of the ACC, we enjoy fresh ram.)

The next guy will talk again all about the Carolina Way.
Not the real one: Classes? Ney. Just pay, pay, pay.

Don't quit your day job.

They really don't have a choice. He is a disaster. I thought this was a dumb move when they hired him. It's even is even worse than I thought it would be. Who ever hired him should be fired.

(10-08-2025 08:08 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 08:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  On a more serious note .... I think it would be a hysterical own goal for UNC to fire him. I'm feeling ... oddly poetic.

You're the bashful boys in baby blue,
who haven't been good since Charlie Choo Choo.

Dealing with blownout Bill can be a real b*tch.
But ask yourself, are you going to do better than Nebraska after Solich?

You may feel as though slandered,
but truth be told you were always sub-standard.

So go on, rip on Bill, phone the press,
but in Chapel Hill football just means less.
(As though jumpman on a football jersey wasn't enough to confess.)

If a slaughter you demand, grab the right lamb:
Octogenarians are only preferred by Bubba Cunningham.
(But for the rest of the ACC, we enjoy fresh ram.)

The next guy will talk again all about the Carolina Way.
Not the real one: Classes? Ney. Just pay, pay, pay.

Don't quit your day job.

There was a pro coach of great note,
who took a new gig with a goat
He showed up with a tart
Got off to a bad start
There was a pro coach of great note!