(10-22-2025 01:00 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:58 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:28 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I respond to Tom because he's easy to make fun of. He reminds me of my leftist ex girlfriend, an angry loser who blames conservatives and Republicans for her problems. He's a loser just like her who doesn't deserve anything good in life.

Written like someone who truly is angry at the world... if you were truly happy you'd be wishing them well and to find happiness in their life, even if you disagree politically.

I hate leftists because they hate me, mlb, and I'm starting to hate you because you take their side.

WHY THE **** SHOULD I BE NICE TO SOMEONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM WHEN THEY HATE ME AND WANT ME DEAD SIMPLY FOR EXISTING AND HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION?!?!?!?!?!?

Andy, I don't know the first thing about you. So how could I possibly "hate" you? I don't. Not wired that way.

(10-22-2025 01:57 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 11:43 AM)gdunn Wrote:  There's 53 Republicans. A majority of 60 votes needed to pass.

Dems won't vote on it cause they want fluff in there being directed to other countries and to retract the BBB...

But hey it's the Republicans fault cause they won't bend to the will of the Dems who would rather line their own pockets or send our tax dollars overseas.

Yup, when every Republican is voting to keep the government open at current spending levels (even a couple of democrats are voting with them making it bipartisan)----and almost every Democrat---including the Democrat leadership---is voting to keep the government closed-----its hard to see how anyone with common sense can blame the Republicans.

FIFY!

(10-22-2025 12:22 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:12 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 11:47 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Since this is about the left wanting to extend health care programs to illegal aliens,

Yeah, no it's not. And that statement is ignorant and devoid of ANY fact. Not surprising.

Says the most rational person on here, and who will always admit when he's wrong.

Yeah.... Right....

Well, never said I was the most rational person on here.

And feel free, show me where I'm wrong. What policy, specifically, are the democrats arguing for that will extend health care programs to illegal aliens?

With very limited exception, neither the ACA, Medicare, nor Medicaid are available to illegal aliens.

His post is nothing but a right-wing talking point. Read lie.

Again, anyone with common sense can clearly see how this isn't a Republican shutdown. Of course, Bullwinkle's a troll so he has to act like he doesn't have common sense.

Carry on.

(10-22-2025 02:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:22 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:12 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 11:47 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Since this is about the left wanting to extend health care programs to illegal aliens,

Yeah, no it's not. And that statement is ignorant and devoid of ANY fact. Not surprising.

Says the most rational person on here, and who will always admit when he's wrong.

Yeah.... Right....

Well, never said I was the most rational person on here.

And feel free, show me where I'm wrong. What policy, specifically, are the democrats arguing for that will extend health care programs to illegal aliens?

With very limited exception, neither the ACA, Medicare, nor Medicaid are available to illegal aliens.

His post is nothing but a right-wing talking point. Read lie.

I will believe right wing talking points over left wing talking points any day, Tom.

https://www.newsweek.com/states-offering...ts-2077861

"Immigrants without legal status typically do not qualify for federal benefits, however, more than a dozen states offer various forms of health coverage to undocumented migrants."

While they don't qualify for federal benefits these states can move federal dollars around to allow illegals to get free healthcare.

(10-22-2025 02:17 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 01:00 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:58 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:28 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I respond to Tom because he's easy to make fun of. He reminds me of my leftist ex girlfriend, an angry loser who blames conservatives and Republicans for her problems. He's a loser just like her who doesn't deserve anything good in life.

Written like someone who truly is angry at the world... if you were truly happy you'd be wishing them well and to find happiness in their life, even if you disagree politically.

I hate leftists because they hate me, mlb, and I'm starting to hate you because you take their side.

WHY THE **** SHOULD I BE NICE TO SOMEONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM WHEN THEY HATE ME AND WANT ME DEAD SIMPLY FOR EXISTING AND HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION?!?!?!?!?!?

Andy, I don't know the first thing about you. So how could I possibly "hate" you? I don't. Not wired that way.

Tom, you don't know me, but you constantly tell me to get mental help. I don't need mental help. My mental health is fine, and I certainly don't need to be told what to do by leftist busybodies like you on the internet.

(10-22-2025 02:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:22 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:12 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 11:47 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Since this is about the left wanting to extend health care programs to illegal aliens,

Yeah, no it's not. And that statement is ignorant and devoid of ANY fact. Not surprising.

Says the most rational person on here, and who will always admit when he's wrong.

Yeah.... Right....

Well, never said I was the most rational person on here.

And feel free, show me where I'm wrong. What policy, specifically, are the democrats arguing for that will extend health care programs to illegal aliens?

With very limited exception, neither the ACA, Medicare, nor Medicaid are available to illegal aliens.

His post is nothing but a right-wing talking point. Read lie.

There is no way anyone can take you seriously. This has been going on since I don't know when.

Once again you are a proven liar. I have watched this play out with my own eyes. Illegals get FREE MEDICAL CARE and FREE GROCERIES .

These are FACTS not my opinion whether or not anyone accepts this or not is not a concern of mine. It is what it is until someone finally says no.

(10-22-2025 02:47 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 02:17 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 01:00 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:58 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:28 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I respond to Tom because he's easy to make fun of. He reminds me of my leftist ex girlfriend, an angry loser who blames conservatives and Republicans for her problems. He's a loser just like her who doesn't deserve anything good in life.

Written like someone who truly is angry at the world... if you were truly happy you'd be wishing them well and to find happiness in their life, even if you disagree politically.

I hate leftists because they hate me, mlb, and I'm starting to hate you because you take their side.

WHY THE **** SHOULD I BE NICE TO SOMEONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM WHEN THEY HATE ME AND WANT ME DEAD SIMPLY FOR EXISTING AND HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION?!?!?!?!?!?

Andy, I don't know the first thing about you. So how could I possibly "hate" you? I don't. Not wired that way.

Tom, you don't know me, but you constantly tell me to get mental help. I don't need mental help. My mental health is fine, and I certainly don't need to be told what to do by leftist busybodies like you on the internet.

You might not need mental help Andy but you definitely need anger management. I speak from experience and I almost killed someone in a fight when I was a young man.

(10-22-2025 02:47 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 02:17 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 01:00 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:58 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:28 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I respond to Tom because he's easy to make fun of. He reminds me of my leftist ex girlfriend, an angry loser who blames conservatives and Republicans for her problems. He's a loser just like her who doesn't deserve anything good in life.

Written like someone who truly is angry at the world... if you were truly happy you'd be wishing them well and to find happiness in their life, even if you disagree politically.

I hate leftists because they hate me, mlb, and I'm starting to hate you because you take their side.

WHY THE **** SHOULD I BE NICE TO SOMEONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM WHEN THEY HATE ME AND WANT ME DEAD SIMPLY FOR EXISTING AND HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION?!?!?!?!?!?

Andy, I don't know the first thing about you. So how could I possibly "hate" you? I don't. Not wired that way.

Tom, you don't know me, but you constantly tell me to get mental help. I don't need mental help. My mental health is fine, and I certainly don't need to be told what to do by leftist busybodies like you on the internet.

I hope so. That being said, is this you?

(09-19-2025 01:34 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Also, please don't talk to me about my mental health. I hear that enough from my wife and parents. The last place I need my mental health discussed is with strangers on the internet.

I assume your wife and parents know you.

But I agree, our words posted on here can be seen as rooted in anger, etc. and make us look somewhat unhinged from time to time. Please take care!

(10-22-2025 02:57 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 02:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:22 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 12:12 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-22-2025 11:47 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Since this is about the left wanting to extend health care programs to illegal aliens,

Yeah, no it's not. And that statement is ignorant and devoid of ANY fact. Not surprising.

Says the most rational person on here, and who will always admit when he's wrong.

Yeah.... Right....

Well, never said I was the most rational person on here.

And feel free, show me where I'm wrong. What policy, specifically, are the democrats arguing for that will extend health care programs to illegal aliens?

With very limited exception, neither the ACA, Medicare, nor Medicaid are available to illegal aliens.

His post is nothing but a right-wing talking point. Read lie.

There is no way anyone can take you seriously. This has been going on since I don't know when.

Once again you are a proven liar. I have watched this play out with my own eyes. Illegals get FREE MEDICAL CARE and FREE GROCERIES .

These are FACTS not my opinion whether or not anyone accepts this or not is not a concern of mine. It is what it is until someone finally says no.

Yeah, no, I don't purposely lie on here, ever. And sure, I've posted things that were wrong in the past and I'll do it again. We all will. And I agree, of course there are some illegals getting free medical care and free groceries. But that's a far cry from the democrats holding up the government for some unknown plan to provide something free to illegals on some grand scale, that's simply a right-wing talking point,

(10-22-2025 02:45 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  https://www.newsweek.com/states-offering...ts-2077861

"Immigrants without legal status typically do not qualify for federal benefits, however, more than a dozen states offer various forms of health coverage to undocumented migrants."

While they don't qualify for federal benefits these states can move federal dollars around to allow illegals to get free healthcare.

Bingo! The Demonics say that they won't be able to but they know how to change the rules to suit them. So like satan, they only give you 20% of the truth and that's still more than they actually do, sometimes only 10%.

Then why are the democrats voting to shut down the government? Why won't they vote for the clean CR that keeps the spending at the current levels which they supported when Biden was in office? Why do they insist on Covid subsidies even as Covid is no longer an issue? Why are they insisting on keeping the government shut down over the expiration of subsidies that they could have made permanent under the Inflation Reduction Act?

Nearly ALL government accounting is done via Fund Accounting. You don't "move" dollars around. Not how it works.

(10-23-2025 09:17 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Then why are the democrats voting to shut down the government? Why won't they vote for the clean CR that keeps the spending at the current levels which they supported when Biden was in office? Why do they insist on Covid subsidies even as Covid is no longer an issue? Why are they insisting on keeping the government shut down over the expiration of subsidies that they could have made permanent under the Inflation Reduction Act?

I believe the majority of the "subsidies" are the ACA credits that are set to expire. If those expire, many many Americans will be hit with huge health care increases that most will not be able to afford.

Story from years ago that explains how Illegals get "Health Care" in the US. Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? Thanks to Obamacare which was put in place to destroy the Insurance industry in America.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapotheca...mmigrants/
"All told, Americans cross-subsidize health care for unauthorized immigrants to the tune of $18.5 billion a year . Of this total, federal taxpayers provided $11.2 billion in subsidized care to unauthorized immigrants in 2016 ."

(10-23-2025 09:21 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-23-2025 09:17 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Then why are the democrats voting to shut down the government? Why won't they vote for the clean CR that keeps the spending at the current levels which they supported when Biden was in office? Why do they insist on Covid subsidies even as Covid is no longer an issue? Why are they insisting on keeping the government shut down over the expiration of subsidies that they could have made permanent under the Inflation Reduction Act?

I believe the majority of the "subsidies" are the ACA credits that are set to expire. If those expire, many many Americans will be hit with huge health care increases that most will not be able to afford.

Which party wrote the legislation that didn't make those permanent? Given no republicans voted for the ACA (for reasons that should be obvious now) the answer should be pretty easy. The democrats are punishing Americans for their own stupidity.

(10-23-2025 09:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nearly ALL government accounting is done via Fund Accounting. You don't "move" dollars around. Not how it works.

Governments move money around all the time. See the Social Security Trust fund.