(09-24-2025 01:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 01:41 PM)hburg Wrote:  Taking Tylenol once or twice for a headache or fever are not the reason for autism or adhd. The link most likely happens because of consistent use of Tylenol, those people who are constantly taking Tylenol off and on during pregnancy or giving it to their newborn or infant constantly. Which would build up the chemical levels in the body to alter the brain in the baby, especially in the first trimester. This is my theory.

toss in the 78? vaccines being administered in the 'way too early' machina, and who the hell knows what that witches brew will yield...

when troubleshooting anything, it should always begin with "what changed and when" ... and a former employee of mine with an autistic child 'swore' it was in the vaccinations (and the due he performed on his son's behalf was peer reviewable worthy)...

while there may be validity to your posit and acetaminophen in general, it's statistically impossible in isolation based on the rate of increase with this disease ... what has increased are the number of vaccines/other drugs administered during the rate of increase in autism...

I'm with DJT and DeSantis on this one ... give the parents the choice ... personally, I'd go back in time and reduce to the point before the rise increase began...

if my daughter has a child, I'm gonna pound that one in her head ... right now, she's still in the indoctrination phase of preparation...

Stink where have you been? The ONLY reason autism is on the rise is because of improvements in diagnosis. Autism has always been there - we just didn't know it Ja!

(09-25-2025 08:24 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 01:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 01:41 PM)hburg Wrote:  Taking Tylenol once or twice for a headache or fever are not the reason for autism or adhd. The link most likely happens because of consistent use of Tylenol, those people who are constantly taking Tylenol off and on during pregnancy or giving it to their newborn or infant constantly. Which would build up the chemical levels in the body to alter the brain in the baby, especially in the first trimester. This is my theory.

toss in the 78? vaccines being administered in the 'way too early' machina, and who the hell knows what that witches brew will yield...

when troubleshooting anything, it should always begin with "what changed and when" ... and a former employee of mine with an autistic child 'swore' it was in the vaccinations (and the due he performed on his son's behalf was peer reviewable worthy)...

while there may be validity to your posit and acetaminophen in general, it's statistically impossible in isolation based on the rate of increase with this disease ... what has increased are the number of vaccines/other drugs administered during the rate of increase in autism...

I'm with DJT and DeSantis on this one ... give the parents the choice ... personally, I'd go back in time and reduce to the point before the rise increase began...

if my daughter has a child, I'm gonna pound that one in her head ... right now, she's still in the indoctrination phase of preparation...

Stink where have you been? The ONLY reason autism is on the rise is because of improvements in diagnosis. Autism has always been there - we just didn't know it Ja!

Occam's razor.

(09-25-2025 08:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 08:24 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 01:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 01:41 PM)hburg Wrote:  Taking Tylenol once or twice for a headache or fever are not the reason for autism or adhd. The link most likely happens because of consistent use of Tylenol, those people who are constantly taking Tylenol off and on during pregnancy or giving it to their newborn or infant constantly. Which would build up the chemical levels in the body to alter the brain in the baby, especially in the first trimester. This is my theory.

toss in the 78? vaccines being administered in the 'way too early' machina, and who the hell knows what that witches brew will yield...

when troubleshooting anything, it should always begin with "what changed and when" ... and a former employee of mine with an autistic child 'swore' it was in the vaccinations (and the due he performed on his son's behalf was peer reviewable worthy)...

while there may be validity to your posit and acetaminophen in general, it's statistically impossible in isolation based on the rate of increase with this disease ... what has increased are the number of vaccines/other drugs administered during the rate of increase in autism...

I'm with DJT and DeSantis on this one ... give the parents the choice ... personally, I'd go back in time and reduce to the point before the rise increase began...

if my daughter has a child, I'm gonna pound that one in her head ... right now, she's still in the indoctrination phase of preparation...

Stink where have you been? The ONLY reason autism is on the rise is because of improvements in diagnosis. Autism has always been there - we just didn't know it Ja!

Occam's razor.

So you think the number of "quirky" or "spectrummy" people is the same today (by percentage) than 10, 20, 30 years ago and we just didn't have the word for them yet?


When I was in school long ago, we had SPED and you knew who should be in there and who should not be - there were not in-betweeners who you though - well they are a little off but they are ok enough to not be SPED. There may have been 6-10 kids from any graduation class that had to go via SPED

I look at my same school system now and my son's grad class had 51 SPED kids in a class of 114. Almost half of his class. Same town, same system, same general culture.... And those kdis in his SPED were all SPED worthy, none were well sort of, you can't tell, but they needed the extra help.

That is not an anecdotal story.



I am not arguing that it's all Tylenol's fault. But there is a reason and you would be hard pressed to argue that was from anything other than chemical. Anything you ingest does something to your body. Do enough of it and it may cause damage.... CYA messages on bottles are there because there is more than a random chance that the warning may come to fruition - period.

I looked on a bottle of Acetaminophen, and I didn't see any "attorney speak" anywhere on it warning overweight people shouldn't take it.

(09-25-2025 09:08 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  I looked on a bottle of Acetaminophen, and I didn't see any "attorney speak" anywhere on it warning overweight people shouldn't take it.

Mine says pudgy yankee fascists should insert them in their rectum.

Seems kinda specific. Idk

I haven’t looked thru the 16 pages of posts in this thread.

I will say though my grandmother and mother, neither very educated, had a very old world mentality when it came to medicine and they steered me from ever using Tylenol. They just said it had so many harmful side effects. They did use the heck out of Vic’s Vapor Rub for cough, congestion, inflammation/swelling, headaches, aches and pains, etc. If we had a fever they just told me and my siblings to sweat it out.

I’m sure it’s been discussed elsewhere in this thread how the Austin’s tent has grown to incomes a lot of other things that was not in the spectrum a dozen years ago. I do have a child who has been diagnosed with Austism Spectrum Disorder although when back in the 1980s when I was a kid people would just say he was “nerdy”. He has a photographic memory, is socially awkward and has high anxiety. He had poor muscle tone and coordination. He’s a good a kid though- National Honor Society, in the band, soon to be an Eagle Scout. When he was younger he “flapped” when he got excited, does it much less now and never in mixed company. There are a lot of kids who fall into this category who are swept under this rug, they were sound when I was a kid they are just labeled.

(09-25-2025 09:37 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I haven’t looked thru the 16 pages of posts in this thread.

I will say though my grandmother and mother, neither very educated, had a very old world mentality when it came to medicine and they steered me from ever using Tylenol. They just said it had so many harmful side effects. They did use the heck out of Vic’s Vapor Rub for cough, congestion, inflammation/swelling, headaches, aches and pains, etc. If we had a fever they just told me and my siblings to sweat it out.

I’m sure it’s been discussed elsewhere in this thread how the Austin’s tent has grown to incomes a lot of other things that was not in the spectrum a dozen years ago. I do have a child who has been diagnosed with Austism Spectrum Disorder although when back in the 1980s when I was a kid people would just say he was “nerdy”. He has a photographic memory, is socially awkward and has high anxiety. He had poor muscle tone and coordination. He’s a good a kid though- National Honor Society, in the band, soon to be an Eagle Scout. When he was younger he “flapped” when he got excited, does it much less now and never in mixed company. There are a lot of kids who fall into this category who are swept under this rug, they were sound when I was a kid they are just labeled.

Weirdos have weirdo children

Its not always an illness

I started using Tylenol migraine for headaches in my 30's. Its the only thing that really works.

Its a relatively small amount though, 2 of those are only about 325mg of Acetaminophen as where 2 Xtra strength Tylenol (what most commonly take) is 1000 mg.

It works well for sinus or migraine headaches because its a cocktail of a lesser dose of Tylenol, Aspirin and caffeine. The caffeine seems to be a key ingredient when mixed with the other 2.

(09-25-2025 09:01 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 08:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 08:24 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 01:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 01:41 PM)hburg Wrote:  Taking Tylenol once or twice for a headache or fever are not the reason for autism or adhd. The link most likely happens because of consistent use of Tylenol, those people who are constantly taking Tylenol off and on during pregnancy or giving it to their newborn or infant constantly. Which would build up the chemical levels in the body to alter the brain in the baby, especially in the first trimester. This is my theory.

toss in the 78? vaccines being administered in the 'way too early' machina, and who the hell knows what that witches brew will yield...

when troubleshooting anything, it should always begin with "what changed and when" ... and a former employee of mine with an autistic child 'swore' it was in the vaccinations (and the due he performed on his son's behalf was peer reviewable worthy)...

while there may be validity to your posit and acetaminophen in general, it's statistically impossible in isolation based on the rate of increase with this disease ... what has increased are the number of vaccines/other drugs administered during the rate of increase in autism...

I'm with DJT and DeSantis on this one ... give the parents the choice ... personally, I'd go back in time and reduce to the point before the rise increase began...

if my daughter has a child, I'm gonna pound that one in her head ... right now, she's still in the indoctrination phase of preparation...

Stink where have you been? The ONLY reason autism is on the rise is because of improvements in diagnosis. Autism has always been there - we just didn't know it Ja!

Occam's razor.

So you think the number of "quirky" or "spectrummy" people is the same today (by percentage) than 10, 20, 30 years ago and we just didn't have the word for them yet?


When I was in school long ago, we had SPED and you knew who should be in there and who should not be - there were not in-betweeners who you though - well they are a little off but they are ok enough to not be SPED. There may have been 6-10 kids from any graduation class that had to go via SPED

I look at my same school system now and my son's grad class had 51 SPED kids in a class of 114. Almost half of his class. Same town, same system, same general culture.... And those kdis in his SPED were all SPED worthy, none were well sort of, you can't tell, but they needed the extra help.

That is not an anecdotal story.



I am not arguing that it's all Tylenol's fault. But there is a reason and you would be hard pressed to argue that was from anything other than chemical. Anything you ingest does something to your body. Do enough of it and it may cause damage.... CYA messages on bottles are there because there is more than a random chance that the warning may come to fruition - period.

Certainly not saying it explains all of it, but most who have studied it says it is a big factor. We have better tools to diagnose things today, and I think the spectrum increased, right?

We just need to be really cautious in implying that correlation equals causation. It just doesn't.

And there are other countries with higher rates than us too. So it's not just something we're doing here.

(09-25-2025 09:42 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I stated using Tylenol migraine for headache in my 30's. Its the only thing that really works.

Its a relatively small amount though, 2 of those are only about 325mg of Acetaminophen as where 2 Xtra strength Tylenol (what most commonly take) is 1000 mg.

It works well for sinus or migraine headaches because its a cocktail of a lesser dose of Tylenol, Aspirin and caffeine. The caffeine seems to be a key ingredient when mixed with the other 2.

I've found that my headaches...when I was drinking soda...were mostly due to caffeine withdrawal. Once I stopped drinking soda, I hardly have headaches any more.

I guess I'm saying that just maybe taking a caffeine pill and drinking a lot of water might cure your headache.

Also, for anything sinus related, I purchase Sudafed (generic) from behind the pharmacy counter. Works wonders. For me.

(09-25-2025 09:39 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 09:37 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I haven’t looked thru the 16 pages of posts in this thread.

I will say though my grandmother and mother, neither very educated, had a very old world mentality when it came to medicine and they steered me from ever using Tylenol. They just said it had so many harmful side effects. They did use the heck out of Vic’s Vapor Rub for cough, congestion, inflammation/swelling, headaches, aches and pains, etc. If we had a fever they just told me and my siblings to sweat it out.

I’m sure it’s been discussed elsewhere in this thread how the Austin’s tent has grown to incomes a lot of other things that was not in the spectrum a dozen years ago. I do have a child who has been diagnosed with Austism Spectrum Disorder although when back in the 1980s when I was a kid people would just say he was “nerdy”. He has a photographic memory, is socially awkward and has high anxiety. He had poor muscle tone and coordination. He’s a good a kid though- National Honor Society, in the band, soon to be an Eagle Scout. When he was younger he “flapped” when he got excited, does it much less now and never in mixed company. There are a lot of kids who fall into this category who are swept under this rug, they were sound when I was a kid they are just labeled.

Weirdos have weirdo children

Its not always an illness

Hey wait, a minute….. lol ?

(09-25-2025 09:36 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 09:08 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  I looked on a bottle of Acetaminophen, and I didn't see any "attorney speak" anywhere on it warning overweight people shouldn't take it.

Mine says pudgy yankee fascists should insert them in their rectum.

Seems kinda specific. Idk

cause
Trump: "Do not shove bottles of tylenol up your ass"

effect
TikTok sees an enormous increase of leftist uploading videos dealing with tylenol bottles

(09-25-2025 09:36 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Mine says pudgy yankee fascists should insert them in their rectum.

Seems kinda specific. Idk

I see what you did there. Well done! that's a +3

(09-25-2025 09:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 09:01 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 08:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 08:24 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(09-24-2025 01:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  toss in the 78? vaccines being administered in the 'way too early' machina, and who the hell knows what that witches brew will yield...

when troubleshooting anything, it should always begin with "what changed and when" ... and a former employee of mine with an autistic child 'swore' it was in the vaccinations (and the due he performed on his son's behalf was peer reviewable worthy)...

while there may be validity to your posit and acetaminophen in general, it's statistically impossible in isolation based on the rate of increase with this disease ... what has increased are the number of vaccines/other drugs administered during the rate of increase in autism...

I'm with DJT and DeSantis on this one ... give the parents the choice ... personally, I'd go back in time and reduce to the point before the rise increase began...

if my daughter has a child, I'm gonna pound that one in her head ... right now, she's still in the indoctrination phase of preparation...

Stink where have you been? The ONLY reason autism is on the rise is because of improvements in diagnosis. Autism has always been there - we just didn't know it Ja!

Occam's razor.

So you think the number of "quirky" or "spectrummy" people is the same today (by percentage) than 10, 20, 30 years ago and we just didn't have the word for them yet?


When I was in school long ago, we had SPED and you knew who should be in there and who should not be - there were not in-betweeners who you though - well they are a little off but they are ok enough to not be SPED. There may have been 6-10 kids from any graduation class that had to go via SPED

I look at my same school system now and my son's grad class had 51 SPED kids in a class of 114. Almost half of his class. Same town, same system, same general culture.... And those kdis in his SPED were all SPED worthy, none were well sort of, you can't tell, but they needed the extra help.

That is not an anecdotal story.



I am not arguing that it's all Tylenol's fault. But there is a reason and you would be hard pressed to argue that was from anything other than chemical. Anything you ingest does something to your body. Do enough of it and it may cause damage.... CYA messages on bottles are there because there is more than a random chance that the warning may come to fruition - period.

Certainly not saying it explains all of it, but most who have studied it says it is a big factor. We have better tools to diagnose things today, and I think the spectrum increased, right?

We just need to be really cautious in implying that correlation equals causation. It just doesn't.

And there are other countries with higher rates than us too. So it's not just something we're doing here.

"It just doesn't" is very black and white, Yes / No.

Correlation should equal look into it more. Coincidences are not usually just coincidences.

(09-25-2025 09:42 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I stated using Tylenol migraine for headache in my 30's. Its the only thing that really works.

Its a relatively small amount though, 2 of those are only about 325mg of Acetaminophen as where 2 Xtra strength Tylenol (what most commonly take) is 1000 mg.

It works well for sinus or migraine headaches because its a cocktail of a lesser dose of Tylenol, Aspirin and caffeine. The caffeine seems to be a key ingredient when mixed with the other 2.

BC (Goodies) Powders....

make sure you have a lot of water to wash it down. Since its already in a powder form it works more quickly.

(09-25-2025 09:37 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I haven’t looked thru the 16 pages of posts in this thread.

I will say though my grandmother and mother, neither very educated, had a very old world mentality when it came to medicine and they steered me from ever using Tylenol. They just said it had so many harmful side effects. They did use the heck out of Vic’s Vapor Rub for cough, congestion, inflammation/swelling, headaches, aches and pains, etc. If we had a fever they just told me and my siblings to sweat it out.

I’m sure it’s been discussed elsewhere in this thread how the Austin’s tent has grown to incomes a lot of other things that was not in the spectrum a dozen years ago. I do have a child who has been diagnosed with Austism Spectrum Disorder although when back in the 1980s when I was a kid people would just say he was “nerdy”. He has a photographic memory, is socially awkward and has high anxiety. He had poor muscle tone and coordination. He’s a good a kid though- National Honor Society, in the band, soon to be an Eagle Scout. When he was younger he “flapped” when he got excited, does it much less now and never in mixed company. There are a lot of kids who fall into this category who are swept under this rug, they were sound when I was a kid they are just labeled.

Same thing with me and my brother Vics on the chest cure every type of cold. Had a fever or cold, 2 quilts, with the vicks rub.

One caught something didn't run from it put the other in same bed so both would be over with it at same time. We never went to a doctor unless that cold was over 7 days

Give yout preggar wife an ice water enema. No weirde kids

Everybody happy

Im here to help

I look at it his way.. you (average American) jumped all over the mRNA vaccine when it was proposed by the White House. even when it wasn't "mandatory".

But now that President Trump suggests a non-mandatory stay on the use of Tylenol for pregnant women.. GOVT OVERREACH! GOVT OVERREACH!!!

when their own medicine chart (Inlcuded with the bottle), says "Pregnant or Breast Feeding Please see your health care specialist before taking... " (I was going to add *This crap*..before backing of my statement)

(09-25-2025 10:28 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 09:42 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I stated using Tylenol migraine for headache in my 30's. Its the only thing that really works.

Its a relatively small amount though, 2 of those are only about 325mg of Acetaminophen as where 2 Xtra strength Tylenol (what most commonly take) is 1000 mg.

It works well for sinus or migraine headaches because its a cocktail of a lesser dose of Tylenol, Aspirin and caffeine. The caffeine seems to be a key ingredient when mixed with the other 2.

BC (Goodies) Powders....

make sure you have a lot of water to wash it down. Since its already in a powder form it works more quickly.

I think they are almost the same thing, but goodies has a little less acetaminophen and a little more aspirin.

The powder does work twice as fast.