That study has a serious flaw in that it did not take into account people who took the drug when it wasnt prescribed.
"I gave this woman a single tablet in month 8, and we saw no link to autism" is not the flex you think it is. THe study admits they didnt include women who may have popped a couple of dozen during pregnancy.
One limitation of this study is that it relies on data from prescribed acetaminophen and from self-reporting from pregnant people during prenatal care. It may not capture all use or dosage in all people, particularly over-the-counter medicines.
Now I am being more and more convinced there is a direct correlation.
there's going to be holes in any population based study.
Most people, maybe not you, think theres an ethical problem with doing clinical trials on pregnant women involving medication.
Then dont do it.
And also warn that tylenol is not approved for women in pregnancy, instead of just allowing them to think its safe and effective.
Also, any studies like John Hopkins which point out a high liklihood of correlation needs to be adhered to instead of brushing it off.
There's a warning on every single bottle of Tylenol that advises pregnant and breastfeeding moms to consult a physician before use.
And they should and that should be the messaging of the administration if they cared about actual health.
So you should be thrilled they are promoting public health awareness then.
Muh Trump don't want pregnant women to ignore muh warning labels on Tylenol! Reeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!
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I just checked my wife's bottle of acetaminophen. Warning label a mile long. One of the things it says is that if you're pregnant, don't use this product.
Probably been there for years. So you KNOW they KNOW there is some legal liability there for some reason.
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(09-24-2025 12:53 PM)TripleA Wrote: I just checked my wife's bottle of acetaminophen. Warning label a mile long. One of the things it says is that if you're pregnant, don't use this product.
Probably been there for years. So you KNOW they KNOW there is some legal liability there for some reason.
Many people let Doctors and Big Pharma make all their health decisions for them.
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(09-24-2025 12:59 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:
(09-24-2025 12:53 PM)TripleA Wrote: I just checked my wife's bottle of acetaminophen. Warning label a mile long. One of the things it says is that if you're pregnant, don't use this product.
Probably been there for years. So you KNOW they KNOW there is some legal liability there for some reason.
Many people let Doctors and Big Pharma make all their health decisions for them.
If they don't research things themselves then they are idiots. On a side note, I wouldn't take the statin either.
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(09-24-2025 11:35 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:22 AM)hburg Wrote: Some people are just dumb. Common sense tells you, if it is an synthetic substance like medicine, there will be risk that can cause harm. Put chemicals in food, altar the genetics of food, put medals into vaccines, etc.., all have potential to cause irreversible harm. Yet when an association or causation is shown, it is met with, not true.. That is my drug...
Yes...but...
Quote:Acetaminophen exposure during pregnancy is not linked to the risk of developing autism, ADHD, or intellectual disability, according to a new study of data from more than 2 million children in Sweden. The collaborative research effort by Swedish and American investigators, which appears in JAMA, is the largest of its kind and was funded by the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS), part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH).
That study has a serious flaw in that it did not take into account people who took the drug when it wasnt prescribed.
"I gave this woman a single tablet in month 8, and we saw no link to autism" is not the flex you think it is. THe study admits they didnt include women who may have popped a couple of dozen during pregnancy.
One limitation of this study is that it relies on data from prescribed acetaminophen and from self-reporting from pregnant people during prenatal care. It may not capture all use or dosage in all people, particularly over-the-counter medicines.
Now I am being more and more convinced there is a direct correlation.
Your logic has a serious flaw.
Quote:However, the number of patients included in the study sample and the ability to control for many other confounding factors support the conclusion that acetaminophen is not directly linked to an increase link of autism, ADHD, or intellectual disability.
They found no link.
And it stands to reason with the massive size of the study that some people in the study were taking more Tylenol then prescribed and didn't admit it. And it still found no causation.
(This post was last modified: 09-24-2025 01:21 PM by Redwingtom.)
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(09-24-2025 11:39 AM)mlb Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:16 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:14 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote: This is why its so important that people talk to their physicians, who can make a proper risk assessment.
There is not one physician in this world who I would trust to make a proper risk assessment for me.
You are simply a brainwashed sheep.
I listen to my doctor about my high blood pressure and the risks associated with it. I don't buy that most doctors are prescribing medicines just to get themselves rich. They believe that those medications work. I pay $4 for my lisinopril for a 60 day supply, and that is without using insurance. There is no way my doctor or the pharmaceutical company is getting rich off of me.
Don't know if it's just my local CVS, but my latest round of meds tripled in price over what it was for the last year.
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(09-24-2025 01:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:39 AM)mlb Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:16 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:14 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote: This is why its so important that people talk to their physicians, who can make a proper risk assessment.
There is not one physician in this world who I would trust to make a proper risk assessment for me.
You are simply a brainwashed sheep.
I listen to my doctor about my high blood pressure and the risks associated with it. I don't buy that most doctors are prescribing medicines just to get themselves rich. They believe that those medications work. I pay $4 for my lisinopril for a 60 day supply, and that is without using insurance. There is no way my doctor or the pharmaceutical company is getting rich off of me.
Don't know if it's just my local CVS, but my latest round of meds tripled in price over what it was for the last year.
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(09-24-2025 12:20 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote: how would you know? You don't go to a doctor and don't have a doctor. And even if you did you boasted you wouldn't listen to a doctor.
In case you haven't noticed. The poster you quoted is not a serious poster. Best to just ignore.
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(09-24-2025 01:25 PM)shere khan Wrote:
(09-24-2025 01:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:39 AM)mlb Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:16 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:14 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote: This is why its so important that people talk to their physicians, who can make a proper risk assessment.
There is not one physician in this world who I would trust to make a proper risk assessment for me.
You are simply a brainwashed sheep.
I listen to my doctor about my high blood pressure and the risks associated with it. I don't buy that most doctors are prescribing medicines just to get themselves rich. They believe that those medications work. I pay $4 for my lisinopril for a 60 day supply, and that is without using insurance. There is no way my doctor or the pharmaceutical company is getting rich off of me.
Don't know if it's just my local CVS, but my latest round of meds tripled in price over what it was for the last year.
Sucks to be you
Mine went down
Mine had been going down steadily the last several years...and now they're going up. So I can clearly blame trump, right?
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(09-24-2025 01:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:39 AM)mlb Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:16 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:14 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote: This is why its so important that people talk to their physicians, who can make a proper risk assessment.
There is not one physician in this world who I would trust to make a proper risk assessment for me.
You are simply a brainwashed sheep.
I listen to my doctor about my high blood pressure and the risks associated with it. I don't buy that most doctors are prescribing medicines just to get themselves rich. They believe that those medications work. I pay $4 for my lisinopril for a 60 day supply, and that is without using insurance. There is no way my doctor or the pharmaceutical company is getting rich off of me.
Don't know if it's just my local CVS, but my latest round of meds tripled in price over what it was for the last year.
DJT has isolated ewes in his pharma reform package ... ewes don't fit the 'attack' categories ... pharma has to make it up somehow...
of course, ewe wouldn't shop around once it began to increase in price ... that would only make sense to any of the sane...
like muh insurance deductibles and such, eh?!!!
g'dammit, boi ... keep enjoying that level of stoooopid ewe continue to demonstrate...
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(09-24-2025 01:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:39 AM)mlb Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:16 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:14 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote: This is why its so important that people talk to their physicians, who can make a proper risk assessment.
There is not one physician in this world who I would trust to make a proper risk assessment for me.
You are simply a brainwashed sheep.
I listen to my doctor about my high blood pressure and the risks associated with it. I don't buy that most doctors are prescribing medicines just to get themselves rich. They believe that those medications work. I pay $4 for my lisinopril for a 60 day supply, and that is without using insurance. There is no way my doctor or the pharmaceutical company is getting rich off of me.
Don't know if it's just my local CVS, but my latest round of meds tripled in price over what it was for the last year.
well, in their defense, they really have no reason to mass produce mangina cream in order to get the price down....
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Taking Tylenol once or twice for a headache or fever are not the reason for autism or adhd. The link most likely happens because of consistent use of Tylenol, those people who are constantly taking Tylenol off and on during pregnancy or giving it to their newborn or infant constantly. Which would build up the chemical levels in the body to alter the brain in the baby, especially in the first trimester. This is my theory.
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(09-24-2025 01:37 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(09-24-2025 01:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:39 AM)mlb Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:16 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:
(09-24-2025 11:14 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote: This is why its so important that people talk to their physicians, who can make a proper risk assessment.
There is not one physician in this world who I would trust to make a proper risk assessment for me.
You are simply a brainwashed sheep.
I listen to my doctor about my high blood pressure and the risks associated with it. I don't buy that most doctors are prescribing medicines just to get themselves rich. They believe that those medications work. I pay $4 for my lisinopril for a 60 day supply, and that is without using insurance. There is no way my doctor or the pharmaceutical company is getting rich off of me.
Don't know if it's just my local CVS, but my latest round of meds tripled in price over what it was for the last year.
well, in their defense, they really have no reason to mass produce mangina cream in order to get the price down....
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Curious, has Bobby posted a scientific study or the results of his months long investigation yet for how they arrived at their decision to have trump tell the country not to take Tylenol?
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(09-24-2025 11:32 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: You would think sensible people would all agree lets study it a little deeper and be sure. Can't hurt.
Instead the libs..."Trump said WHAT????
Yep. But Big Pharma is a huge lobby in this country, and because of the COVID pandemic, the left has decided that anybody who speaks out against Big Pharma should be ostracized from society at all costs, especially if the criticism levied against Big Pharma is legitimate. In other words, gaslighters gonna gaslight.
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(09-24-2025 01:41 PM)hburg Wrote: Taking Tylenol once or twice for a headache or fever are not the reason for autism or adhd. The link most likely happens because of consistent use of Tylenol, those people who are constantly taking Tylenol off and on during pregnancy or giving it to their newborn or infant constantly. Which would build up the chemical levels in the body to alter the brain in the baby, especially in the first trimester. This is my theory.
toss in the 78? vaccines being administered in the 'way too early' machina, and who the hell knows what that witches brew will yield...
when troubleshooting anything, it should always begin with "what changed and when" ... and a former employee of mine with an autistic child 'swore' it was in the vaccinations (and the due he performed on his son's behalf was peer reviewable worthy)...
while there may be validity to your posit and acetaminophen in general, it's statistically impossible in isolation based on the rate of increase with this disease ... what has increased are the number of vaccines/other drugs administered during the rate of increase in autism...
I'm with DJT and DeSantis on this one ... give the parents the choice ... personally, I'd go back in time and reduce to the point before the rise increase began...
if my daughter has a child, I'm gonna pound that one in her head ... right now, she's still in the indoctrination phase of preparation...