(09-11-2025 07:01 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:03 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:15 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:45 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Get back to us the next time some crazed right wing radical shoots and kills a prominent young democrat. GTFO with that crap. Typical fence sitting CYA "moderate".

Get ******. Someone lost their life today, 2 kids lost a dad, and a wife lost the love of her life. Both parties are guilty of this rhetoric. One is more successful. You can bury your head. I've enjoyed Charlie Kirk's views and I follow him on X, even when I don't agree with him.

Pick a side.

Why would I pick a side when there is no side that represents my views? I also don't think most of these issues are cut and dry, black and white, however you want to say it, many of them are shades of gray that you have to look at from multiple places.

But in this case, anyone who is celebrating the loss of life, or making excuses for anyone to kill another person, is an awful person themselves and needs to look in the mirror and have a long introspective and figure out why they've lost their humanity.

So you finally find a line to draw. Heroic of you.

(09-11-2025 07:08 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:01 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:03 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:15 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:45 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Get back to us the next time some crazed right wing radical shoots and kills a prominent young democrat. GTFO with that crap. Typical fence sitting CYA "moderate".

Get ******. Someone lost their life today, 2 kids lost a dad, and a wife lost the love of her life. Both parties are guilty of this rhetoric. One is more successful. You can bury your head. I've enjoyed Charlie Kirk's views and I follow him on X, even when I don't agree with him.

Pick a side.

Why would I pick a side when there is no side that represents my views? I also don't think most of these issues are cut and dry, black and white, however you want to say it, many of them are shades of gray that you have to look at from multiple places.

But in this case, anyone who is celebrating the loss of life, or making excuses for anyone to kill another person, is an awful person themselves and needs to look in the mirror and have a long introspective and figure out why they've lost their humanity.

There is a FAR, FAR bigger problem with mental heath and violence coming from the left in this country. From the assassination attempts on Trump, the the CEO's being murdered, the the cities they burn down and destroy at the drop of a hate to now this horrifying assassination of Charlie Kirk.

Things are NOT the same on both side here with the violence and the obvious mental health issues.

Its time for people to recognize that and start dealing with it.

Yep. Democrats are the party of maladjusted warped hateful freaks.

Weve known it a long time.

Prog filth

(09-10-2025 07:47 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  It's the gun's fault to the stupid among us. It's Communism. They don't tolerate opposition.

A couple of us here have harped on Marxism and the inroads its made into America for so long now that no one hears. Or no one cares. Or no one thinks its possible that the staunchest defender of liberty and freedom could ever be brought down.

Newsflash, it's happening right in front of us in plain sight.

(09-11-2025 07:06 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:03 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 06:52 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Ironic in that Charlie's approach was one of peace and love. He welcomed all who wanted to debate him, and did it with style and grace.

Did he say some things leftists didn't like? Sure. Did he propagate hate and discontent? Hell no.

That is what angers me so much with some of these MSM comment and a few posters ignorant comments.

There was NOTHING intentionally divisive or cutting about this man, he was the complete opposite of all that in every way. A gentle man who had nothing but patience, respect and love even for those who hated him the most.

If they are willing to label CHARLIE KIRK as a divisive, polarizing and hateful then people are simply not allowed to publicly hold Christian and conservative views under any circumstance no matter how peaceful and gentile they are.

Ever notice when they talk about a conservative they attach the label far-right? They never say politicians like AOC, Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosii, etc are far-left. Is there a far left in their mind?

The extremist labels clear only get applied to one side in most of the MSM. And its a blanket application for all on the right.

(09-10-2025 07:49 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:39 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:25 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:24 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  I’m curious what would Republicans think of launching a modern cointelpro? This was an operation by the FBI in the 1960s and early 70s aimed at breaking the back of radical leftist organizations and a few right ones. The FBI infiltrated, raided, and in some cases even potentially assassinated members of militant leftist groups large and small.

Wanna talk about it? Make a thread about it. Don't derail this one.

Only reason I brought it up was so many in this thread are saying the left is violent and needs to be stopped, I was asking to what lengths should the government go to stop it?

What is the job of our government? Protect the lives and property of the citizens, uphold its laws, and do it all within the Constitutional framework. Our job is to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Freedom of speech is a right and since this was a scheduled event that right had been approved. The gunning down of any public speaker regardless of whether what they have to say is popular or not, is a protected right and the one committing the murder to stop it is not only guilty of murder, but the attack is upon the Constitution itself in that the motive was to silence the ideas of the speaker.

People would know this if the responsibilities of citizens, the function of government, and the application of law were still taught the minions of braindead parrots of socialist tripe promulgated as education in the public school system. If they were actually educated by the schools tasked with teaching them their role as citizens or responsibilities of government to them and they to government, and obedience of the law for the common good things would be better. But hell, they don't even to teach them to read and writer well, to use their language properly, to add, subtract, multiply or divide in the heads, or the actual non politicized history of their nation.

99% of the social ills in this nation are traceable to the agenda of the NEA. Just teach and quit indoctrinating and we'll be fine regardless of our differences. The agenda of schools needs to return to being a local school board's responsibility so that parental rights return to the supervision of their children's education.

But the function of government and the citizens relationship to it is not the topic of this thread. The public murder of Mr. Kirk is.

99% of the agenda of the NEA is supported by marxists organizations across the world, including our own government funding curriculum like CRT and Common Core through NGO's who should have no connection to our public school systems.

I was in training yesterday afternoon when it came across my phone and friend of mine's at the same time.. We looked at each other and was like WTF.. My wife texted me, who's a nurse, and said they had the tv on and basically said it'll be a miracle.. After our session ended it came across he had passed.

Love or hate the guy, this is not something that should happen. There are a few on this board who I see as very frustrating but would never take their life over a political view.

(09-10-2025 07:51 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:48 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:47 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  It's the gun's fault to the stupid among us. It's Communism. They don't tolerate opposition.

Here's why the gun didn't do it. The gun would still be lying on the roof taking a nap, if the shooter had not picked it up.

I agree with you, Andy (3A since Andybible seems to be back now). That said, i think Eagleaidaholic's being sarcastic.

Of course he is. Only idiots blame the gun itself without providing the context of who operated the gun. And he's not wrong, it's ism. I prefer marxism (no, I will not capitalize the word) over communism or socialism as a descriptor but all three terms are almost 100% interchangeable.

(09-10-2025 07:52 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:49 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:44 PM)TripleA Wrote:  ABAB quote above:

Quote:Oh well. Maybe we'll learn to pass laws to stop these threads from happening so frequently.

This is the left's solution to everything. Shut you up so you can't talk when you disagree with me.

The exact freaking reason Charlie Kirk was assassinated today.

It’s also a retarded statement to make.

Just “pass laws”

Then when pressed, they don’t have any solutions. Liberals lack critical thinking skills

I blocked that paid troll

First ever on any message board. Eff that retard

Sent from my SM-S928U using Tapatalk

He bees banned now mayne.

Why isn't something being done about the MSM??

They're supposed to have standards, they have to be licensed by the FCC? How are they allowed to openly and blatantly lie to people? I think this is one of our biggest problems.

(09-11-2025 06:10 AM)otown Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:12 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

What can be done about this? It has gotten to the point that our press openly lies and feeds the public propaganda. Can the FCC get involved and pull their licenses since they are propaganda outlets? I know we dont want censorship, but we also dont want pure living propaganda either. One of the main reasons fox news is so successful with rating is that they have more balanced news. Sure, they have people on their opinion programs that are right of center, but their actual news segments and journalists are actually what their logo says, fair and balanced.

What we dont see is the fair and balanced from the other 99% of news outlets. They just lie and feed leftist propaganda, not just from their opinion shows, but from their actual journalists so called journalists in their news departments. Even when they try to be balanced, they create misleading headlines to subconsciously try to push a leftist narrative.

Fox kills all the other channels in ratings because of 3 reasons, the majority in this country actually are right of center and like their opinion shows, the majority in the country want unbiased news, and the majority of the country have no other choice as 99% of the rest of the channels are either left wing dirt bags blowing cesspool air or they have a propaganda news department.

So even if the country was majority of the country was leftist filth, which it is not, fox would still kill it in rating because they are in a room alone and the other 99% of traditional non streaming cable and OTA outlets are leftist propaganda trash.

Was this said on the air yesterday?

(09-10-2025 07:56 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:41 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Hey, I cried, too, man. Then I got angry. (Heck, I'm still a little angry.)

This...

(09-10-2025 07:05 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  We can call this political violence, and tangentially it is, but it usually takes more than mean words to get somebody so angry that they wanna kill you.

bull****. (and I'm going apologize here for not holding my tongue on any of this).

I've been in my office trying to work and hearing about the shooting (i basically leave my non-work screen on x.. Today was the first day I honestly couldn't do it. this was literally the first day I had to keep "x' down as much as possible.


Remember
"Take it to the streets"?
"You've unleashed the whirlwind"?
"There will be a fight.. a street fight"?

Goddammit.. look at the people on TIKTOK that are ******* celebrating the death of a father and husband, because he INVITED KIDS to speak to him on college campuses about -anything- THEY WANTED TO DISCUSS, and he would try to prove them -wrong- if they were mistaken in their beliefs.

This is a man who was WARNING COLLEGE KIDS you're going to be in debt before you know it for a *******' worthless "piece of paper".

Charlie wanted teens and young adults to open their eyes and _THINK_ on their own. Use the Lord's words and really think about what they were standing for.

And some left-supporting assassin just took away a voice of reason for those kids, someone that fought _for_ them (Whether or not you agreed with what), he fought for blacks, whites, asians, indians, to be able to prove their MERIT for society.

So to any of you who want to disparage Charlie and his cause... I suggest you go do it while standing in front of his wife and children (did you know one of his little girl was reportedly in the tent with him?) and say the crap you're spewing out of your mouths.

Go say your crap in front of the kids and young adults he DID relate with whether on his school tours at a TPUSA meeting and who have nothing but wonderful things to say. Talk to people who met with him and disagreed with him, but had communications and discussions with those people.

Whoa, you're barking up the wrong tree here dickum. What did I say that was disparaging? I have watched almost every video he's ever done and I admired the guy tremendously. I'm not sure what you read into my statement but I think you misinterpreted it and owe me an apology. I NEVER request apologies for anything said to me here because I really don't care what the left here - or anywhere - thinks of me but you've overstepped your reach here and are completely out of line with someone who shares your views.

My point, perhaps poorly worded -maybe that's what set you off? - is that no one should be killed for doing or saying the things Kirk did and said, or for expressing an opinion at all. He was a treasure. I loved it when he stacked his high school education up next to college professors and made them look like fools. I can identify with Kirk as someone who didn't even finish high school yet here I sit holding my own with most anyone who comes here.

So apologize or step the fuq off, son.

(09-11-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why isn't something being done about the MSM??

They're supposed to have standards, they have to be licensed by the FCC? How are they allowed to openly and blatantly lie to people? I think this is one of our biggest problems.

because any regulation would also apply to Fox News.

The Dem's have an assassination culture.

In an April 2025 NCRI national survey, an astounding 55% of self identified left of center responders (i.e., Dem's) say killing Trump is a least "somewhat justified".

https://networkcontagion.us/wp-content/u...-Brief.pdf

The figure is likely higher because people may be reluctant to admit they favor killing people over politics.

It is impossible to have rational discourse with people who want to kill you. So what is to be done to deal with this scary reality? I am pondering the best course, but I know it does not lie in matching hate with hate.

(09-10-2025 07:56 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:41 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Hey, I cried, too, man. Then I got angry. (Heck, I'm still a little angry.)

This...

(09-10-2025 07:05 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  We can call this political violence, and tangentially it is, but it usually takes more than mean words to get somebody so angry that they wanna kill you.

bull****. (and I'm going apologize here for not holding my tongue on any of this).

I've been in my office trying to work and hearing about the shooting (i basically leave my non-work screen on x.. Today was the first day I honestly couldn't do it. this was literally the first day I had to keep "x' down as much as possible.


Remember
"Take it to the streets"?
"You've unleashed the whirlwind"?
"There will be a fight.. a street fight"?

Goddammit.. look at the people on TIKTOK that are ******* celebrating the death of a father and husband, because he INVITED KIDS to speak to him on college campuses about -anything- THEY WANTED TO DISCUSS, and he would try to prove them -wrong- if they were mistaken in their beliefs.

This is a man who was WARNING COLLEGE KIDS you're going to be in debt before you know it for a *******' worthless "piece of paper".

Charlie wanted teens and young adults to open their eyes and _THINK_ on their own. Use the Lord's words and really think about what they were standing for.

And some left-supporting assassin just took away a voice of reason for those kids, someone that fought _for_ them (Whether or not you agreed with what), he fought for blacks, whites, asians, indians, to be able to prove their MERIT for society.

So to any of you who want to disparage Charlie and his cause... I suggest you go do it while standing in front of his wife and children (did you know one of his little girl was reportedly in the tent with him?) and say the crap you're spewing out of your mouths.

Go say your crap in front of the kids and young adults he DID relate with whether on his school tours at a TPUSA meeting and who have nothing but wonderful things to say. Talk to people who met with him and disagreed with him, but had communications and discussions with those people.

You know what, screw almost everything I said before.

Go fuq yourself, you've managed to do what few here have done in the 17 years I've been coming here - long enough for your dumb*** to have noticed that I bash the left and defend the right every.single.time. it's warranted; you've pissed me off.

I have a 21 year old grandson who grew up listening to Kirk, he says the man caused him to course correct and find God, he had that muchb of an influence on him. He is heartbroken that one of his truly deserving hero's has been taken from the world by what is surely some brain damaged leftist.

You either have a reading comprehension problem or your just another fuqn moron. I'm not some wuss beta male who is going to just sit back and allow someone to talk to me like I'm trash.

(09-10-2025 07:56 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:41 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Hey, I cried, too, man. Then I got angry. (Heck, I'm still a little angry.)

This...

(09-10-2025 07:05 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  We can call this political violence, and tangentially it is, but it usually takes more than mean words to get somebody so angry that they wanna kill you.

bull****. (and I'm going apologize here for not holding my tongue on any of this).

I've been in my office trying to work and hearing about the shooting (i basically leave my non-work screen on x.. Today was the first day I honestly couldn't do it. this was literally the first day I had to keep "x' down as much as possible.


Remember
"Take it to the streets"?
"You've unleashed the whirlwind"?
"There will be a fight.. a street fight"?

Goddammit.. look at the people on TIKTOK that are ******* celebrating the death of a father and husband, because he INVITED KIDS to speak to him on college campuses about -anything- THEY WANTED TO DISCUSS, and he would try to prove them -wrong- if they were mistaken in their beliefs.

This is a man who was WARNING COLLEGE KIDS you're going to be in debt before you know it for a *******' worthless "piece of paper".

Charlie wanted teens and young adults to open their eyes and _THINK_ on their own. Use the Lord's words and really think about what they were standing for.

And some left-supporting assassin just took away a voice of reason for those kids, someone that fought _for_ them (Whether or not you agreed with what), he fought for blacks, whites, asians, indians, to be able to prove their MERIT for society.

So to any of you who want to disparage Charlie and his cause... I suggest you go do it while standing in front of his wife and children (did you know one of his little girl was reportedly in the tent with him?) and say the crap you're spewing out of your mouths.

Go say your crap in front of the kids and young adults he DID relate with whether on his school tours at a TPUSA meeting and who have nothing but wonderful things to say. Talk to people who met with him and disagreed with him, but had communications and discussions with those people.

really, really weird post. I hope you quoted the wrong person.

(09-11-2025 07:32 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why isn't something being done about the MSM??

They're supposed to have standards, they have to be licensed by the FCC? How are they allowed to openly and blatantly lie to people? I think this is one of our biggest problems.

because any regulation would also apply to Fox News.

So be it. I know I, and am pretty such many many others, would have no issue with that at all.

(09-11-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why isn't something being done about the MSM??

They're supposed to have standards, they have to be licensed by the FCC? How are they allowed to openly and blatantly lie to people? I think this is one of our biggest problems.

It is ABSOLUTELY NUMBER ONE! We can’t survive without a free non biased media. Unfortunately our MSM has sold out to Soros and his agents of destruction. They can say whatever lies they want on these Marxist ‘news’ cast but the people should make them pay for it. Somehow.

(09-10-2025 08:03 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Good statement by Trump, but it's going to spin up the left even more, of course.

Anything he said would have...

These days they don't need an extra push anyway.

(09-10-2025 07:56 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:32 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why isn't something being done about the MSM??

They're supposed to have standards, they have to be licensed by the FCC? How are they allowed to openly and blatantly lie to people? I think this is one of our biggest problems.

because any regulation would also apply to Fox News.

Good grief

I once thought no one was this stupid.

Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012

Thanks Obama you marxist retard.