Bryanw1995, just shut up. Your take is ridiculous.

(09-10-2025 05:33 PM)No Bull Wrote:  FBI has confirmed the suspect has been apprehended.

A pro wouldn't have been caught.

(09-10-2025 06:28 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:24 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  Guns very much do kill people. That's actually the whole point of them.

If I were to say "Atomic bombs don't kill people. People kill people. Everyone should have access to atomic bombs since it's not the bombs it's the people." Would you say "yeah that makes sense."? No? Why not?

This thread is to pay homage to a family man trying to do his best in this miserable world, not somewhere for you to preach your miserable leftist gospel.

He's not going to because we're giving him attention. (I know; I'm guilty of that, too.)

I wonder if he recognized JR's warning.

(09-10-2025 06:28 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:24 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  Guns very much do kill people. That's actually the whole point of them.

If I were to say "Atomic bombs don't kill people. People kill people. Everyone should have access to atomic bombs since it's not the bombs it's the people." Would you say "yeah that makes sense."? No? Why not?

This thread is to pay homage to a family man trying to do his best in this miserable world, not somewhere for you to preach your miserable leftist gospel.

I didn't realize I was in a safe space where only specific speech as allowed. Also the post is titled "Game on." Whatever that means.

(09-10-2025 06:30 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:33 PM)No Bull Wrote:  FBI has confirmed the suspect has been apprehended.

A pro wouldn't have been caught.

Even if they got the right guy, it isn't like they'll do anything to him.

(09-10-2025 06:28 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:28 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:24 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:23 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:17 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  Half of what I have said is quoting or referencing what Kirk said himself. Yet by quoting him and acting nowhere near as disrespectful as he did in life I'm being divisive? Does that say anything about his rhetoric?

It is very odd to be okay with everything Kirk said when other people were attacked or killed, but upset by what I am saying. I'm just pointing out that he was killed by laws he fought for. Other people will continue to also die in random shooting if nothing is changed.

You people are just stuck on stupid.

Laws do not kill people, guns do not kill people. People kill people.

The simple presence of guns are not what trigger people to murder others. And as we have seen time and time and time again, if they want to kill and don't have a gin they will just make a bomb or drive into a crowd of people or do countless other things to satisfy their blood lust.

Guns very much do kill people. That's actually the whole point of them.

Oh, yes. Guns are totally sentient but can't move on their own so they brainwash people into firing them at each other.

It's not the tool; it's the heart of the person wielding it. But you don't care because "muh gun control".

If I were to say "Atomic bombs don't kill people. People kill people. Everyone should have access to atomic bombs since it's not the bombs it's the people." Would you say "yeah that makes sense."? No you wouldn't say that? Why not?

Last time I tell you. Start a gun control thread. This thread is about the murder of an activist whether you agree with him or not. Stay on topic. If you want another topic start a thread about it! Dissembling, and hijacking a thread topic are moderation issues.

(09-10-2025 06:30 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:17 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:09 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:39 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:35 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  Are you actually justifying him being killed?

Again, I disagreed with Kirk on most things, but I’m not gonna justify his death. You make change by convincing people why you think they’re wrong, not violence.

Justifying? No.

Pointing out that he spent his life working to make sure murders like this kept happening? Yes.



And I don't care for any moral outrage because again remember that as long as someone is not accusing Kirk of actually being gay lovers with his murderer then they are are higher moral grounds than the grounds of which he lived his life.

What happened to Kirk is horrific. Just like what happened in Minnesota a couple months ago was horrific. Trump nearly getting assassinated is horrific. Or Pelosi’s husband getting assaulted. Political violence just shows how intellectually weak someone is.

You aren’t bringing anyone to your side of the argument when you say, “he did this to himself”. You’re just causing more division and hatred. If you can just ignore a father/husband/son dying with no sympathy, seek help.

Half of what I have said is quoting or referencing what Kirk said himself. Yet by quoting him and acting nowhere near as disrespectful as he did in life I'm being divisive? Does that say anything about his rhetoric?

It is very odd to be okay with everything Kirk said when other people were attacked or killed, but upset by what I am saying. I'm just pointing out that he was killed by laws he fought for. Other people have been killed by the same laws and other people will continue to be killed by them. It's easy to view those deaths as "necessary" like this person did when they are faceless statics. Yet when they are personal or parasocial people feel differently.

If someone like AOC was murdered by a black thug in NYC, would that invalidate her views or make them less compelling?

Sometimes the things and people we fight for blow back in our faces. It doesn’t mean that what they believed was fraudulent to begin with. I fail to see why the left cannot grasp this easy concept.

Because people like ABAB don't really care.

(09-10-2025 06:25 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 04:49 PM)maximus Wrote:  I started the week taking my family to dinner on Monday evening. A very nice waitress took care of us and was super sweet. Before we wrapped up she asked if we went to church and we talked about that for a minute. She then asked all of our names and asked to pray for us. She prayed over the table and called us each out by name, it was a nice gesture.

She was 22 years old and gave her life to the Lord 2 years ago, she shared her story.

The world needs more of that.

Not this mess. Not the rot that is the abnormal woke mob.

God help us all

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There are more and more like her. My youngest grandson moved to Tampa for a job and is living with 7 other young men in a 4 bedroom house. One of the conditions for his friends getting him the job and a place to live was that he attends church every Sunday, no exceptions. He's really gotten into it. There's hope.

Thats terrific.

Its going to take that to spread nationwide

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(09-10-2025 06:30 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I wonder if he recognized JR's warning.

Well, he just got warned one last time by JR. If he keeps on, I'm sure the hammer's gonna come down.

(09-10-2025 06:32 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:30 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I wonder if he recognized JR's warning.

Well, he just got warned one last time by JR. If he keeps on, I'm sure the hammer's gonna come down.

I've been there and I guarantee you're right.

(09-10-2025 06:20 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 02:20 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 02:17 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Things are getting pretty wild in this country

As if a former president getting shot while running wasn’t enough?

I'm not super politically active. I couldn't have told you what Charlie Kirk was famous for, though if I had to guess I'd have said something to do with Conservatives. This situation is FAR different from an assassination or even attempted assassination of a past or current President, or even of a Presidential Candidate. From what little I've read on him today, it appears likely that Kirk created many enemies for himself. Things like a "professor watch list" whose members receive death threats and threats to their families? That's a very large number of potential suspects right there, assuming that with all the confusion out there they actually have not caught the real suspect ofc. Any of those profs at Utah St? How many trans kids are there at Utah St?

We can call this political violence, and tangentially it is, but it usually takes more than mean words to get somebody so angry that they wanna kill you. You don't see people gunning for Rubio or Vance, and with Trump I'm sure it had more to do with "he's the President from the wrong team" as we've seen throughout our history with nutjobs from both the right and left going after Presidents they disagreed with on policy. But you saw someone kill Kirk, a Republican who was, rightly or wrongly, demonized by the left, just as you saw someone attempt to kill Pelosi (or her husband in that case) b/c she was demonized by the right.

It's contemptible but predictable that so many here have used this tragic event to publicly proclaim and attempt to reinforce their preconceived notions about which "team" is right and which is wrong. I didn't follow any of the threads after the attempt on Trump's or Pelosi's lives, but I assume that those threads were similarly toxic. Go look in the mirror guys, if you use events like this to attempt to reinforce your political beliefs then YOU are part of the problem.

For a non politically active person, you seem to have a lot of opinions.

You say you don’t know much about Kirk, yet say he had it coming.

You are part of the problem.

(09-10-2025 06:28 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:28 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:24 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:23 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:17 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  Half of what I have said is quoting or referencing what Kirk said himself. Yet by quoting him and acting nowhere near as disrespectful as he did in life I'm being divisive? Does that say anything about his rhetoric?

It is very odd to be okay with everything Kirk said when other people were attacked or killed, but upset by what I am saying. I'm just pointing out that he was killed by laws he fought for. Other people will continue to also die in random shooting if nothing is changed.

You people are just stuck on stupid.

Laws do not kill people, guns do not kill people. People kill people.

The simple presence of guns are not what trigger people to murder others. And as we have seen time and time and time again, if they want to kill and don't have a gin they will just make a bomb or drive into a crowd of people or do countless other things to satisfy their blood lust.

Guns very much do kill people. That's actually the whole point of them.

Oh, yes. Guns are totally sentient but can't move on their own so they brainwash people into firing them at each other.

It's not the tool; it's the heart of the person wielding it. But you don't care because "muh gun control".

If I were to say "Atomic bombs don't kill people. People kill people. Everyone should have access to atomic bombs since it's not the bombs it's the people." Would you say "yeah that makes sense."? No you wouldn't say that? Why not?

I have a feeling your days are numbered here. You seem to have a reading problem on all accounts.

(09-10-2025 06:30 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:33 PM)No Bull Wrote:  FBI has confirmed the suspect has been apprehended.

A pro wouldn't have been caught.

Not the purpose of this thread but if it was a pro it would not have happened in a public setting with cameras and witnesses.

(09-10-2025 06:24 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:23 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:17 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  Half of what I have said is quoting or referencing what Kirk said himself. Yet by quoting him and acting nowhere near as disrespectful as he did in life I'm being divisive? Does that say anything about his rhetoric?

It is very odd to be okay with everything Kirk said when other people were attacked or killed, but upset by what I am saying. I'm just pointing out that he was killed by laws he fought for. Other people will continue to also die in random shooting if nothing is changed.

You people are just stuck on stupid.

Laws do not kill people, guns do not kill people. People kill people.

The simple presence of guns are not what trigger people to murder others. And as we have seen time and time and time again, if they want to kill and don't have a gin they will just make a bomb or drive into a crowd of people or do countless other things to satisfy their blood lust.

Guns very much do kill people. Killing things is actually the whole point of guns.

If I were to say "Atomic bombs don't kill people. People kill people. Everyone should have access to atomic bombs since it's not the bombs it's the people." Would you say "yeah that makes sense."? No you wouldn't say that? Why not?

No, guns do not kill people. A gun is a tool, just as a knife is a tool. Just as a car is a tool or a hammer is a tool.

A person has to pick up a gun or a knife and want to murder other human beings before the gun can ever enter the equation. The gun itself cannot murder anyone until a human being wants to murder someone.

If you have to drag ATOMIC BOMBS into a 2nd amendment argument you obvious don't have an argument and need to sit down and shut up.

(09-10-2025 06:37 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

Did they fire him!?

(09-10-2025 06:38 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:37 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

Did they fire him!?

Of course not.

Quote:BREAKING: Benny Johnson just told a story never disclosed before - after a major fire broke out on his Washington DC home's block threatening his family, Charlie Kirk "allowed me and my wife, family, to stay in his condo in Florida," granting his family shelter while Benny searched for a new home.

"Charlie was there for us, and never asked for anything in return. This is why, in fact, I live in Florida."

"Now extrapolate that to millions of young lives Charlie has affected...the single most effective spokesperson for the American dream we've ever seen or witnessed."

Quote:My condolences to the family of Charlie Kirk and to all the young people in the world who admired him and listened to him. A formidable disseminator of the ideas of freedom and staunch defender of the West.

He was the victim of an atrocious murder in the midst of a wave of left-wing political violence across the entire region. The left is always, at all times and places, a violent phenomenon full of hatred. The entire world lost an incredible human being.

Goodbye.