(09-03-2025 07:49 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: (09-03-2025 07:29 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (09-03-2025 09:02 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (09-03-2025 08:38 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: (09-03-2025 08:31 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: They aren't Americans, and in fact are killing Americans, and thus have no due process.
You’d think this simple fact wouldnt need to be explained, but then again, the Dems arent the brightest bulbs. When will a radical leftist judge declare this strike unconstitutional and say we are no longer allowed to do them?
So just blow up anyone there. Without regard. Cool cool.
Nice inclusion of the 'radical leftist judge' fallback de jure. Lol.
Do you think that we just randomly picked that boat with those people aboard and blew them up for no reason? That's the only explanation for defending them. If a boat full of armed men from anywhere was known to be headed to America with a lethal cargo would you be concerned for their welfare also or would it be OK to blow them up, eliminating the threat once and for all?
Last I saw, when a force can track a boat, it can sure as hell can interdict it.
Last I saw the policy was to interdict, board, gather evidence and hand them over.
Now I guess it is to simply spot someone and blow it up. Seems pretty inane to me given the above. Something best reserved to a tinpot authoritarian and geared to those who dont really understand anything but 'show of force' as the only solution to anything and everything.
But Trump seemingly has to play 'splodey macho man to his minions who think that every issue is best solved with a missile, or best solved with sending military force in to quell stuff in the streets.
The DC mayor has asked that the program Trump launched to help clean up DC be continued indefinitely, that's how badly that's going.
Now, if I have intel that tells me there's a boat heading to America full of deadly drugs, I'd blow them right out of the water too. There's no risk of flight, no expense to American taxpayers to take them to trial and then house and feed them and no chance for recidivism. They are not Americans, they are hostile actors who may as well be an invading force, they are heading to your homeland with drugs enough to probably kill 100k or more and you're worried about their due process??
What if there was actionable intel that stated they had a dirty bomb on board? Would you be OK with advocating for their rights to due process then? Or would you be OK with taking them out in the middle of the ocean?
Answer me that without equivocating or erecting strawmen to support your asinine support of not just your garden variety criminals, but also insane killers who would cut your throat without a second thought.
Yours must be a pretty neatly packaged world where everything is in black and white, where there is no room for autonomous thought and everything is strictly by the book. If you can tell me that you have never in your life sidestepped to get something or compromised your principles for anything then you're an effing saint and I'll submit your name for canonization.
If it was up to me we'd still be hanging dangerous criminals in the middle of Anytown, USA's town square.
If you were a criminal defense attorney are there any cases you would turn down because the act your potential client is accused of is so horrifying that your conscience wouldn't allow you to be engaged by them? Delivering drugs that will contribute to our death toll of kids and adults dying from poisoned drugs should carry the death sentence. And yeah, I know, they are just as entitled to a legal defense as you or I but could you be that kind of lawyer or would your conscience prevent it?
Please note that I have not attacked you and have tried to be as respectful as I possibly can toward someone with whom I usually find myself in disagreement. I will always defer to your experience in matters of the law but I won't usually agree with your opinions on the issues you seem to favor talking about.