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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
(04-24-2025 09:31 AM)450bench Wrote: (04-24-2025 08:49 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (04-24-2025 08:27 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: (04-24-2025 08:17 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: (04-24-2025 07:31 AM)TripleA Wrote: How many times do you think he should get due process? Unlimited for the same situation? He had due process. He just had a hold placed on his deportation.
You do get points for using "intellectual deficiency" instead of "stupid." 
He had a court order preventing his removal to El Salvador. The government violated that court order.
He wasn’t deported, he was imprisoned in a concentration camp without due process.
There are procedures for deporting people. All we ask is that the government follow them. There are procedures for imprisoning people. All we ask is that the government follow them.
Pretty simple.
What a grotesquely stupid thing to say.
Might want to engage your brain before opening your mouth.
Go watch some footage and read about the Holocaust before you compare a prison to that horrible encampment.
You are embarrassing yourself
The El Salvador prison is absolutely a concentration camp.
So freaking what?
And what if it is?
And how in the hell do you know? You don’t know $hat.
Speculation and not admissible.
Concentration Camp : a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution.
The shoe fits.
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
Good grief. Nobody is mass executing anybody, you drama queens.
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
(04-24-2025 11:08 AM)TripleA Wrote: Good grief. Nobody is mass executing anybody, you drama queens.
You not understanding the modifier “or” is just further evidence of your intellectual deficiency.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/or
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
(04-24-2025 10:44 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (04-24-2025 09:08 AM)TripleA Wrote: (04-24-2025 08:59 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: These people followed no legal process to come here. Throw them out. All of them. The US should be running round the clock flights back to where these 3rd world subhumans came from. Pack them all full. Let them hang on the landing gear like when the last planes left Biden’s Afghanistan disaster. Whatever it takes. Get them out. We don’t want them here. We don’t need them here. Send them back where they came from and keep the military on the border to stop them from coming back
I'm not quite that militant about it, lol, but certainly this is not a run of the mill due process situation.
Our last president intentionally let in maybe 20M+ illegal aliens without any process or vetting whatsoever, so to think they now all deserve due process on the way out is way beyond the pale.
Where was OUR due process when they came streaming in?
Actually, I think we should deport Biden, all his Cabinet members, all the Dem Congress critters who silently endorsed this, and anyone else who perpetuated this travesty on the US.
The more and more you blather the more and more Im convinced that you have no idea what due process is or entails, aside from some rhetorical butthurt rant basis.
So, to be clear you defend the Biden administration's mass parole program as being both legal and acceptable?
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
hmmm...I wonder if there is any difference between INTERNMENT camps and CONCENTRATION camps?
I need a legal aide to GPT that for me
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
This dude was ordered to leave the USA in 2019. If someone comes to the USA, legally, from a visa waiver country (Britain, Germany, Japan etc.) and they stay longer than 90 days they can be detained and deported. They don't get a court date lol. This goes for anyone in the USA illegally. There are about 1.5 million in the USA that have pending asylum cases. All of the other millions of illegals can be legally deported immediately. There is also about 1.5 million illegals that have been ordered to leave that have not.
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
(04-24-2025 11:13 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (04-24-2025 10:44 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (04-24-2025 09:08 AM)TripleA Wrote: (04-24-2025 08:59 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: These people followed no legal process to come here. Throw them out. All of them. The US should be running round the clock flights back to where these 3rd world subhumans came from. Pack them all full. Let them hang on the landing gear like when the last planes left Biden’s Afghanistan disaster. Whatever it takes. Get them out. We don’t want them here. We don’t need them here. Send them back where they came from and keep the military on the border to stop them from coming back
I'm not quite that militant about it, lol, but certainly this is not a run of the mill due process situation.
Our last president intentionally let in maybe 20M+ illegal aliens without any process or vetting whatsoever, so to think they now all deserve due process on the way out is way beyond the pale.
Where was OUR due process when they came streaming in?
Actually, I think we should deport Biden, all his Cabinet members, all the Dem Congress critters who silently endorsed this, and anyone else who perpetuated this travesty on the US.
The more and more you blather the more and more Im convinced that you have no idea what due process is or entails, aside from some rhetorical butthurt rant basis.
So, to be clear you defend the Biden administration's mass parole program as being both legal and acceptable?
Could you be more specific on which program or programs you are referring to ?
There are numerous programs that are labeled 'illegal' from various sources -- some of those allegations hold more water than others.
And I applaud your question to include both 'legal' and 'acceptable'.
Since I dont know exactly what program or programs you are referring to, I really cannot answer the question.
I will say, and have said, that the Biden policies (whether legal, or illegal) resulted in horrendous outcome at the border, and a horrendous influx of illegal aliens.
Ill be happy to go into greater depth of legality of any such program (that is if I know of the particulars of that program sufficiently) if you can tell me the specific one or ones. Iirc, there were multiple Biden programs that loosened the amnesty and parole aspects -- and some having a better basis in being 'acceptable' than others, from what I know of them. I have only looked at a few in the legal aspect.
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
(04-24-2025 11:08 AM)TripleA Wrote: Good grief. Nobody is mass executing anybody, you drama queens.
"or". Not "and". Big difference.
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
(04-24-2025 11:11 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: (04-24-2025 11:08 AM)TripleA Wrote: Good grief. Nobody is mass executing anybody, you drama queens.
You not understanding the modifier “or” is just further evidence of your intellectual deficiency.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/or
You know damn well that the term infers the German camps. Otherwise, why use the term to stir things up?
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
(04-24-2025 11:43 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (04-24-2025 11:08 AM)TripleA Wrote: Good grief. Nobody is mass executing anybody, you drama queens.
"or". Not "and". Big difference.
The idea that you think I don't understand that word simply reflects your ignorance, not mine.
If you weren't trying to infer the more dramatic definition, you wouldn't use the term in the first place.
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
It’s all a moot point. El Salvador President said he’s not going to send him back and the Executive Branch is not going get into an international row, even if they wanted to, just to get him back so as the ship him off again. The Courts have no constitutional authority to compel foreign affairs between two countries. THE END.
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
(04-24-2025 11:54 AM)TripleA Wrote: (04-24-2025 11:43 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (04-24-2025 11:08 AM)TripleA Wrote: Good grief. Nobody is mass executing anybody, you drama queens.
"or". Not "and". Big difference.
The idea that you think I don't understand that word simply reflects your ignorance, not mine. 
If you weren't trying to infer the more dramatic definition, you wouldn't use the term in the first place.
Id use the term for a place of mass incarceration -- absolutely. Your the dude that is flying off the handle at *your* perception of it. And that fact that the El Salvador concentration camp historically houses groups that are simply rounded up and incarcerated with no due process simply adds to that.
Im not the ignorant fk that flies off the handle at the use of the word -- especially when it meets the definition.
Again -- "and" vs "or". Significant difference.
Again -- you are the guy flipping out at the use of the word and invoking the other aspects, not I, nor Elvis. Lolz.
And yes, it is a loaded term -- no matter which prong is used. And it is accurate in the first prong. Live with it, buttercup.
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
(04-24-2025 12:01 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: (04-24-2025 11:54 AM)TripleA Wrote: (04-24-2025 11:43 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (04-24-2025 11:08 AM)TripleA Wrote: Good grief. Nobody is mass executing anybody, you drama queens.
"or". Not "and". Big difference.
The idea that you think I don't understand that word simply reflects your ignorance, not mine. 
If you weren't trying to infer the more dramatic definition, you wouldn't use the term in the first place.
Id use the term for a place of mass incarceration -- absolutely. Your the dude that is flying off the handle at *your* perception of it. And that fact that the El Salvador concentration camp historically houses groups that are simply rounded up and incarcerated with no due process simply adds to that.
Im not the ignorant fk that flies off the handle at the use of the word -- especially when it meets the definition.
Again -- "and" vs "or". Significant difference.
Again -- you are the guy flipping out at the use of the word and invoking the other aspects, not I, nor Elvis. Lolz.
And yes, it is a loaded term -- no matter which prong is used. And it is accurate in the first prong. Live with it, buttercup.
"ignorant fk"
"flying off the handle"
"flipping out"
"buttercup"
Do you use that language in court with the judge or the other attorneys? I bet you think it.
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
* El Salvador's largest prison, CECOT (Center for the Confinement of Terrorism), is a maximum-security facility with a capacity for 40,000 inmates. It's known for its strict conditions, including a limited daily outside time, lack of privacy, and no allowance for books, cards, or letters from home. The prison was built as part of President Bukele's crackdown on gangs.
* A concentration camp is a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution. The term is most strongly associated with the several hundred camps established by the Nazis in Germany and occupied Europe in 1933–45, among the most infamous being Dachau, Belsen, and Auschwitz.
If you can’t see the difference in the two definitions, you’re clearly mentally challenged or you obviously have an agenda that clouds simple logic and reason.
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
(04-24-2025 12:01 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: (04-24-2025 11:54 AM)TripleA Wrote: (04-24-2025 11:43 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (04-24-2025 11:08 AM)TripleA Wrote: Good grief. Nobody is mass executing anybody, you drama queens.
"or". Not "and". Big difference.
The idea that you think I don't understand that word simply reflects your ignorance, not mine. 
If you weren't trying to infer the more dramatic definition, you wouldn't use the term in the first place.
Id use the term for a place of mass incarceration -- absolutely. Your the dude that is flying off the handle at *your* perception of it. And that fact that the El Salvador concentration camp historically houses groups that are simply rounded up and incarcerated with no due process simply adds to that.
Im not the ignorant fk that flies off the handle at the use of the word -- especially when it meets the definition.
Again -- "and" vs "or". Significant difference.
Again -- you are the guy flipping out at the use of the word and invoking the other aspects, not I, nor Elvis. Lolz.
And yes, it is a loaded term -- no matter which prong is used. And it is accurate in the first prong. Live with it, buttercup.
Why all the name calling? You’ve called others out for such hooliganism.
Your hypocrisy is clearly on display. As it typically is.
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
(04-24-2025 08:38 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote: (04-24-2025 08:37 AM)solohawks Wrote: (04-24-2025 08:35 AM)TripleA Wrote: 1078 posts about one low life illegal alien who is a documented MS-13 gang member and a two-time (at least) wife beater, who got shipped out to El Salvador, his home country, without MORE DUE PROCESS after two courts ruled him MS-13, which is now a designated FTO.
Let's say El Salvador ships him back to the US. Any of you righteous due process souls want to take a guess at what will happen next?
The hills you guys want to die on are pretty funny.
A federal judge will grant a TRO faster than you can say Welcoome Back
Sadly, I think you're right.
If they bring him back, he will get a stay. The media will flood the zone with pictures, videos and stories of him being father and husband of the year. Then when it comes time to deport him for breaking the law, Trump will be made out to look like a heartless monster bullying this innocent family and destroying their lives
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
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RE: Womp Womp - MS13 member shipped to El Salvador can remain there
(04-24-2025 11:42 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (04-24-2025 11:13 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (04-24-2025 10:44 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (04-24-2025 09:08 AM)TripleA Wrote: (04-24-2025 08:59 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: These people followed no legal process to come here. Throw them out. All of them. The US should be running round the clock flights back to where these 3rd world subhumans came from. Pack them all full. Let them hang on the landing gear like when the last planes left Biden’s Afghanistan disaster. Whatever it takes. Get them out. We don’t want them here. We don’t need them here. Send them back where they came from and keep the military on the border to stop them from coming back
I'm not quite that militant about it, lol, but certainly this is not a run of the mill due process situation.
Our last president intentionally let in maybe 20M+ illegal aliens without any process or vetting whatsoever, so to think they now all deserve due process on the way out is way beyond the pale.
Where was OUR due process when they came streaming in?
Actually, I think we should deport Biden, all his Cabinet members, all the Dem Congress critters who silently endorsed this, and anyone else who perpetuated this travesty on the US.
The more and more you blather the more and more Im convinced that you have no idea what due process is or entails, aside from some rhetorical butthurt rant basis.
So, to be clear you defend the Biden administration's mass parole program as being both legal and acceptable?
Could you be more specific on which program or programs you are referring to ?
There are numerous programs that are labeled 'illegal' from various sources -- some of those allegations hold more water than others.
And I applaud your question to include both 'legal' and 'acceptable'.
Since I dont know exactly what program or programs you are referring to, I really cannot answer the question.
I will say, and have said, that the Biden policies (whether legal, or illegal) resulted in horrendous outcome at the border, and a horrendous influx of illegal aliens.
Ill be happy to go into greater depth of legality of any such program (that is if I know of the particulars of that program sufficiently) if you can tell me the specific one or ones. Iirc, there were multiple Biden programs that loosened the amnesty and parole aspects -- and some having a better basis in being 'acceptable' than others, from what I know of them. I have only looked at a few in the legal aspect.
You answered my question already. It doesn't matter which specific program it was. Because we paroled in literally anyone captured at the border.
Going back to the question and part of your highlighted response above and let's assume for a moment there's a subset that entered illegally, the administration's response to that illegal entry itself was illegal (that you've acknowledged), then why now should we have to follow standard removal protocols when nothing was standard up and to that point?
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