(04-24-2025 08:30 AM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  "Due Process" for 25,000,000+ who ain't supposed to be here in the first place.

Imagine the burden on the court system.

I'm sure our resident LegalAI Copy/Paste'r will opine on it

Hell, he's been opining all along. Pretty entertaining, actually.

I can catch you up pretty quick though. Here's the gist of it:

Tanq: "Due process! You're stupid! I know everything! Cool cool."

Okay, now you're caught up.

(04-24-2025 08:06 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

If you are so worried about illegals being here uninvited please tell me how you want to pay for this?

Lat time I checked judges attorneys and court dockets are way overpriced

Plane ticket or bus ride seems most economical.

Last I saw, the numbers being zapped out without due process number in the 300 range.

Most of them wont require that scary thing of 'attorneys, full blown trials, and federal district judges' that you use for your excuse.

Most of them can probably be deported via expedited hearings. Literally undertaken in less than 40 min. Oooohhh.... scary......

The remainder who dont fall into that bucket can probably be put into the line of normal removal proceedings, either because of being 'straight illegal', or even in the 'removal because bad guys' line, or now even in the 'removal because of terrorist affiliation'.

These arent Federal district judges. They are Art 2 administrative judges. And attorney representation isnt a requirement. If they can get one - they can use one. But the state doesnt have to provide, or pay.

Nothing prevents the President from collecting the proverbial bad apples in one detention center. Nothing prevents the President from directing that *all* the Immigration judges in that district will do nothing *but* these types of hearings. Most dont last more than 3 hours.

If Trump wants to see how big his dick is and use the Alien Enemies Act, then the overhead will be larger -- as the Federal courts are now mandating longer notice and more due process potentially available. Or he can streamline the process into one that is pretty efficient, with really no extra overhead cost.

But my guess is that Trump wants to scare his fing moron followers with all the large numbers, continue to lie about the effort needed (since his idiot followers wont check his statements), and simply want to use the AEA for a dick wagging exercise cuz in his thin ass mind it is 'neat', and he thinks that the President can do so since the President is above the law and legal process. And to make his thin brained followers think he is 'brave', all the while they are too fing lazy or stupid to actually understand exactly what is happening, and too fing lazy or stupid to even attempt to look at anything beyond what Trump's lip utter.

(04-24-2025 08:23 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 08:17 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

How many times do you think he should get due process? Unlimited for the same situation? He had due process. He just had a hold placed on his deportation.

You do get points for using "intellectual deficiency" instead of "stupid."

He had a court order preventing his removal to El Salvador. The government violated that court order.

He wasn’t deported, he was imprisoned in a concentration camp without due process.

There are procedures for deporting people. All we ask is that the government follow them. There are procedures for imprisoning people. All we ask is that the government follow them.

Pretty simple.

The US government didn't imprison him. El Salvador did. He was a fugitive of justice there. Go to an El Salvador message board and tell THEM he is required "due process". Don't consider it a "Deportation" but rather an "Extradition".

BS. They are being held by El Salvador at the behest of the US government and we are paying El Salvador for it. 200+ Venezuelans on the same flights are imprisoned along with him at our behest.


Kristi Noem shot a video from the facility and said : "If you come to our country illegally, this is one of the consequences you could face," "This facility is one of the tools in our toolkit that we will use if you commit crimes against the American people."

Now what country does she work for again?

If these people are imprisoned by El Salvador why are we paying for it?

(04-24-2025 08:30 AM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  "Due Process" for 25,000,000+ who ain't supposed to be here in the first place.

Imagine the burden on the court system.

I'm sure our resident LegalAI Copy/Paste'r will opine on it

The burden wont be anywhere as bad as you think, champ.

(04-24-2025 08:27 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 08:17 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

How many times do you think he should get due process? Unlimited for the same situation? He had due process. He just had a hold placed on his deportation.

You do get points for using "intellectual deficiency" instead of "stupid."

He had a court order preventing his removal to El Salvador. The government violated that court order.

He wasn’t deported, he was imprisoned in a concentration camp without due process.

There are procedures for deporting people. All we ask is that the government follow them. There are procedures for imprisoning people. All we ask is that the government follow them.

Pretty simple.

What a grotesquely stupid thing to say.

Might want to engage your brain before opening your mouth.

Go watch some footage and read about the Holocaust before you compare a prison to that horrible encampment.

You are embarrassing yourself

The El Salvador prison is absolutely a concentration camp.

As were the US camps that interred Japanese Americans on WW2.

Live with the actual definition.

These people followed no legal process to come here. Throw them out. All of them. The US should be running round the clock flights back to where these 3rd world subhumans came from. Pack them all full. Let them hang on the landing gear like when the last planes left Biden’s Afghanistan disaster. Whatever it takes. Get them out. We don’t want them here. We don’t need them here. Send them back where they came from and keep the military on the border to stop them from coming back

(04-24-2025 08:59 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  These people followed no legal process to come here. Throw them out. All of them. The US should be running round the clock flights back to where these 3rd world subhumans came from. Pack them all full. Let them hang on the landing gear like when the last planes left Biden’s Afghanistan disaster. Whatever it takes. Get them out. We don’t want them here. We don’t need them here. Send them back where they came from and keep the military on the border to stop them from coming back

I'm not quite that militant about it, lol, but certainly this is not a run of the mill due process situation.

Our last president intentionally let in maybe 20M+ illegal aliens without any process or vetting whatsoever, so to think they now all deserve due process on the way out is way beyond the pale.

Where was OUR due process when they came streaming in?

Actually, I think we should deport Biden, all his Cabinet members, all the Dem Congress critters who silently endorsed this, and anyone else who perpetuated this travesty on the US.

(04-24-2025 08:49 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 08:27 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 08:17 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

How many times do you think he should get due process? Unlimited for the same situation? He had due process. He just had a hold placed on his deportation.

You do get points for using "intellectual deficiency" instead of "stupid."

He had a court order preventing his removal to El Salvador. The government violated that court order.

He wasn’t deported, he was imprisoned in a concentration camp without due process.

There are procedures for deporting people. All we ask is that the government follow them. There are procedures for imprisoning people. All we ask is that the government follow them.

Pretty simple.

What a grotesquely stupid thing to say.

Might want to engage your brain before opening your mouth.

Go watch some footage and read about the Holocaust before you compare a prison to that horrible encampment.

You are embarrassing yourself

The El Salvador prison is absolutely a concentration camp.

So freaking what?

And what if it is?

And how in the hell do you know? You don’t know $hat.

Speculation and not admissible.

(04-24-2025 08:45 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 08:23 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 08:17 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

How many times do you think he should get due process? Unlimited for the same situation? He had due process. He just had a hold placed on his deportation.

You do get points for using "intellectual deficiency" instead of "stupid."

He had a court order preventing his removal to El Salvador. The government violated that court order.

He wasn’t deported, he was imprisoned in a concentration camp without due process.

There are procedures for deporting people. All we ask is that the government follow them. There are procedures for imprisoning people. All we ask is that the government follow them.

Pretty simple.

The US government didn't imprison him. El Salvador did. He was a fugitive of justice there. Go to an El Salvador message board and tell THEM he is required "due process". Don't consider it a "Deportation" but rather an "Extradition".

BS. They are being held by El Salvador at the behest of the US government and we are paying El Salvador for it. 200+ Venezuelans on the same flights are imprisoned along with him at our behest.


Kristi Noem shot a video from the facility and said : "If you come to our country illegally, this is one of the consequences you could face," "This facility is one of the tools in our toolkit that we will use if you commit crimes against the American people."

Now what country does she work for again?

If these people are imprisoned by El Salvador why are we paying for it?

Great. We now own El Salvador. Greenland must be next. They are El Salvadorians. That's why they are there. They are criminals. We pay most countries in the world, but NOW it's a problem. Keep digging that hole. Will make for great mid-term adverts. I don't remember the 400,000 Cubans put in Gitmo getting THEIR "due process". I guess the Overlords didn't tell you about that one. Concentration Camps. Haven't checked all of the Left Stream Media to see if that is the Phrase d'Jour. I'm sure it is since it being used so much here.

The so-called deported "Maryland man" Kilmar Abrego Garcia, whom Democrats have been demanding the Trump administration return to the U.S., was previously pulled over by a highway patrol officer while driving a car belonging to a confessed human smuggler, multiple sources in DHS confirmed to Fox News Digital.
The sources confirmed documents reported by Just the News that revealed Abrego Garcia was pulled over driving an SUV belonging to Jose Ramon Hernandez Reyes, another illegal alien who in 2020 confessed to human smuggling across the U.S.-Mexico border.

Out of curiosity, I looked up the difference between a concentration camp and a max security prison.

Concentration camps have been known to kill prisoners for a variety of illegitimate reasons. At a max prison, they don't kill prisoners unless they have been adjudicated the death penalty.

So no, nobody is in a concentration camp.

(04-24-2025 09:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Out of curiosity, I looked up the difference between a concentration camp and a max security prison.

Concentration camps have been known to kill prisoners for a variety of illegitimate reasons. At a max prison, they don't kill prisoners unless they have been adjudicated the death penalty.

So no, nobody is in a concentration camp.

Hence my (until recently) constant correction of Elvy Boy.

(04-24-2025 09:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Out of curiosity, I looked up the difference between a concentration camp and a max security prison.

Concentration camps have been known to kill prisoners for a variety of illegitimate reasons. At a max prison, they don't kill prisoners unless they have been adjudicated the death penalty.

So no, nobody is in a concentration camp.

Of course they aren’t.
Liberals lie. That’s what they do and who they are. Facts don’t matter, only the lib narrative.

(04-24-2025 09:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Out of curiosity, I looked up the difference between a concentration camp and a max security prison.

Concentration camps have been known to kill prisoners for a variety of illegitimate reasons. At a max prison, they don't kill prisoners unless they have been adjudicated the death penalty.

So no, nobody is in a concentration camp.

Nice comparison.

But why not do an apples to apples comparison. Is a US max security prison the SAME as a prison in a country like El Salvador?

(04-24-2025 08:59 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  These people followed no legal process to come here. Throw them out. All of them. The US should be running round the clock flights back to where these 3rd world subhumans came from. Pack them all full. Let them hang on the landing gear like when the last planes left Biden’s Afghanistan disaster. Whatever it takes. Get them out. We don’t want them here. We don’t need them here. Send them back where they came from and keep the military on the border to stop them from coming back

People who speed follow no legal process when they speed. Fine anyone simply accused of speeding. Should address the issue.

People who shoplift follow no legal process when they speed. Fine anyone simply accused of shop lifting with no other process. Should address the issue.

I can keep this going, I think two should make the point for you.

(04-24-2025 09:08 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 08:59 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  These people followed no legal process to come here. Throw them out. All of them. The US should be running round the clock flights back to where these 3rd world subhumans came from. Pack them all full. Let them hang on the landing gear like when the last planes left Biden’s Afghanistan disaster. Whatever it takes. Get them out. We don’t want them here. We don’t need them here. Send them back where they came from and keep the military on the border to stop them from coming back

I'm not quite that militant about it, lol, but certainly this is not a run of the mill due process situation.

Our last president intentionally let in maybe 20M+ illegal aliens without any process or vetting whatsoever, so to think they now all deserve due process on the way out is way beyond the pale.

Where was OUR due process when they came streaming in?

Actually, I think we should deport Biden, all his Cabinet members, all the Dem Congress critters who silently endorsed this, and anyone else who perpetuated this travesty on the US.

The more and more you blather the more and more Im convinced that you have no idea what due process is or entails, aside from some rhetorical butthurt rant basis.

(04-24-2025 09:31 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 08:49 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 08:27 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 08:17 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  How many times do you think he should get due process? Unlimited for the same situation? He had due process. He just had a hold placed on his deportation.

You do get points for using "intellectual deficiency" instead of "stupid."

He had a court order preventing his removal to El Salvador. The government violated that court order.

He wasn’t deported, he was imprisoned in a concentration camp without due process.

There are procedures for deporting people. All we ask is that the government follow them. There are procedures for imprisoning people. All we ask is that the government follow them.

Pretty simple.

What a grotesquely stupid thing to say.

Might want to engage your brain before opening your mouth.

Go watch some footage and read about the Holocaust before you compare a prison to that horrible encampment.

You are embarrassing yourself

The El Salvador prison is absolutely a concentration camp.

So freaking what?

And what if it is?

And how in the hell do you know? You don’t know $hat.

Speculation and not admissible.

Try the definition. Then compare with the readily available description.

Most people would do that. Apparently not you.

Get back to us when you do thos basic first steps, champ.

(04-24-2025 09:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Out of curiosity, I looked up the difference between a concentration camp and a max security prison.

Concentration camps have been known to kill prisoners for a variety of illegitimate reasons. At a max prison, they don't kill prisoners unless they have been adjudicated the death penalty.

So no, nobody is in a concentration camp.

Funny how the US concentration camps for Japanese Americans in WW2 dont fit your insta-definitional aspect. Might want to try again.

Wash rinse and repeat for any of a number of concentration camps in the world.

(04-24-2025 10:44 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 09:08 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 08:59 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  These people followed no legal process to come here. Throw them out. All of them. The US should be running round the clock flights back to where these 3rd world subhumans came from. Pack them all full. Let them hang on the landing gear like when the last planes left Biden’s Afghanistan disaster. Whatever it takes. Get them out. We don’t want them here. We don’t need them here. Send them back where they came from and keep the military on the border to stop them from coming back

I'm not quite that militant about it, lol, but certainly this is not a run of the mill due process situation.

Our last president intentionally let in maybe 20M+ illegal aliens without any process or vetting whatsoever, so to think they now all deserve due process on the way out is way beyond the pale.

Where was OUR due process when they came streaming in?

Actually, I think we should deport Biden, all his Cabinet members, all the Dem Congress critters who silently endorsed this, and anyone else who perpetuated this travesty on the US.

The more and more you blather the more and more Im convinced that you have no idea what due process is or entails, aside from some rhetorical butthurt rant basis.

Good. I would be concerned if you thought I was smart. That means I would agree with you.