(07-30-2020 05:35 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 05:17 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 05:07 PM)Statefan Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 02:00 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 01:24 PM)Statefan Wrote:  It's not so much academics as it is admissions standards. Admission to WVa is not competitive.

The ACC recently accepted members that have a 70% acceptance rate like WVU has.

WVU acceptance rate: 71.9%

Louisville acceptance rate: 75.3%

Virginia Tech acceptance rate: 70.1%

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I said nothing about the admissions rate which can be manipulated. I said admissions were not competitive.


For instance, if 10 morons apply at Cal and they accept 3 of the 10 morons, that's a 30% admission rate. It says nothing about the quality of the student.

You said, as anyone can see by reading your quote above, "Admission to WVa is not competitive." That means acceptance rate. It can't mean anything else. And I showed that WVU's acceptance rate isn't much different from at least a few schools that are already in the ACC.

So, as I said above, I'm not seeing any legitimate academic reason for shunning WVU as opposed to other recently admitted ACC members. If WVU was in the state of Virginia and VT was in the state of West Virginia, then WVU would be in the ACC today because WVU would have been the school that UVa insisted on as a price for its yes vote on Miami.

You want to separate academics from geography but you can't. The #1 public university in the USNWR rankings? UCLA. #2? Your school, Berkeley. Is it a coincidence both schools are in California and in large metropolitan areas? The Los Angeles and San Francisco Bay areas have more people than the entire state of West Virginia (the city of LA has close to 4 million by itself and that's not counting Orange County, Pasadena, and all the other surrounding areas). That's a lot of students who would want to go to UCLA and Berkeley and that's not counting students living outside LA and SF. I'd rather go to UCLA or Cal than go to West Virginia and I live in Pennsylvania. If West Virginia were in a better state, they'd be in the ACC. Of course they would. But they're not. That's the point. They're in a lousy state no one cares about. You don't think West Virginia is that much better than Louisville academically. But Louisville is a major metropolitan area while Morgantown is in the middle of nowhere. That hurts West Virginia.

You wonder if the Big 12 had chosen Louisville as #10 they could have Louisville and West Virginia right now instead of just West Virginia.

You're agreeing with my point. WVU is about as good a university as Louisville and maybe other schools already in the ACC.

You say the only difference is WVU's location, and you're right that WVU would have many more applications and a lower acceptance rate if they were in a nearby metro area like Pittsburgh or D.C.